Splott David wrote on Wed, 06 July 2011 13:13

myblueheaven wrote on Wed, 06 July 2011 13:03

America should stop fighting wars for Israel. Let them duke it out amongst themselves.

The Tel Aviv based journalist is covering the flotilla and has exposed the huge lengths that Israel has gone to to prevent it from sailing. On Friday about 500 peace activists are arriving at Ben Gurion airport from flights all over the world.

Israel has classified them as rioters, and protesters, who want to "de-legitimize the state of Israel."

Dana says, that people are in hysterics as the state ramps up for this invasion by some elderly pensioners, who just want to visit the West Bank

http://972mag.com/author/josephd/

I remember the last "peace activists" on the flotilla. Armed with knives they shouted " Hey Jews f*ck off back to Auschwitz".

Charmers, those "peace activists".

Two spelling errors in two posts from the Grand Mufti of Splott. He's clearly rattled.

Tell us all.

Is the inflammatory language used by and the weapons carried by these "peace activists" commensurate with any "peace"?

I'd hate to see agrressive ones.

Finished reading that baised drivel. As a guide to the standpoint of the hack at one point he mentions is the Isreali PM playing the "holocaust card" with the Iranian President. This is the same guy (Ahmadinejad) who DENIED the Holocaust. Yeah those pesky Jews always harping on about something that never happened. Great article SD perhaps for a more balanced view on Isreal you could dig up some stuff from Mein Kampf...

Seriously get a life or learn how to present an argument without looking like a biased tool

why arent you with the flottila, does your pally fetish only extend to the internet,have you ever done anything to further your pets cause other than spamming up a football forum?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ayra_j2/4795310441/

"One, I repeat one Palestinian Arab to associate himself with the axis forces" - Splott David, 6/7/2011

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ayra_j2/4795310441/

BennyMossad wrote on Wed, 06 July 2011 13:56

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ayra_j2/4795310441/

"One, I repeat one Palestinian Arab to associate himself with the axis forces" - Splott David, 6/7/2011

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ayra_j2/4795310441/

Idiot!

Those are Bosnian soldiers who fought in the war on the side of the Germans.

"It is used to alarm Israeli's about imaginary enemies"


Are those the same "imaginary enemies" that send "imaginary rockets" into Israel and the same "imaginary suicide bombers" who blow themselves and innocent bystanders to death?

PS: Great documentary about the Grand Nazi Mufti wasn't it? I was especially riveted to his comments about Islam and National Socialism having "common ground".

Funny how you went quiet on that one?

Did you see Ross Kemp and the tunnels from Egypt?

Everything is smuggled into Gaza, not least weapons.

The hatred espoused from the Palestinians showed what a great job the Grand Nazi Mufti and Yassar Arafat did.

They don't want peace, they hate too much. They also can't afford peace because of all the handouts that they get from all over the world.

No change during our lifetime lads.

Cue Splott David having something derogatory to say about Chuck Morse..........


The Nazi Origins of Modern Arab Terror
Chuck Morse
Tuesday, March 4, 2003
The agenda and political faith of Saddam Hussein, Yasir Arafat, Osama bin Laden, Hamas and the rest of the international Islamic terrorists can be traced back to World War II and two key figures, Adolf Hitler and Amin al-Husseini, known as the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem.
Much has been written about the Mufti, all well-documented, including chapters by such prominent authors as Connor Cruise O'Brien, former Irish ambassador to the U.N. Mountains of documented evidence is out there and available to anyone who cares to look.

The Nuremberg and Eichmann trials revealed that Nazi official Adolf Eichmann met with the British-appointed Mufti in Palestine in 1937. Following this meeting, the Mufti would become essentially an agent of Nazi Germany charged with the funding and organizing of pro-Nazi organizations in Egypt, Syria, Palestine and Iraq.
In 1941, along with Rashid Ali and Khairallah Tulfah, Saddam Hussein's uncle, guardian and later father-in-law, the Mufti instigated a pro-Nazi coup in Iraq with Nazi-supplied weapons and aircraft. After the coup failed, the Mufti fled to Berlin, where he would hold his first of several meetings with Adolf Hitler.

At this meeting the Mufti was reported to have dissuaded Hitler from considering the deportation of the Jews to Palestine. Instead, the Mufti advocated and even possibly suggested what came to be known as the final solution against the Jews. In 1942, the Mufti would intervene and stop the Nazis from exchanging 10,000 Jewish children for Nazi POWs.

The Mufti's activities in Nazi Germany and occupied Europe would set the stage for today's Islamic terrorism. On April 25, 1941, the Nazis sent the Mufti to Nazi-occupied Bosnia, where he assumed the title "Protector of Islam."

On Feb. 10, 1943, Hitler ordered the creation of the Nazi SS Division Hanzar and approximately 100,000 Bosnian Muslims volunteered. The Mufti, serving as chief administrator, referred to these Nazi-Muslim brigades as "the cream of Islam."

The Hanzars, deriving their name from the type of dagger carried by Ottoman officers, played an active role in the extermination of Christians and Jews in the Balkans. The Mufti attempted to implement the Nazi "Pejani Plan," which called for the extermination of the Christian Serbs and which the Nazis eventually abandoned.

All in all, the Bosnian Muslim Hanzars assisted in the extermination of approximately 200,000 Christian Serbs, 40,000 Gypsies and 22,000 Jews.

In 1943, Hitler appointed the Mufti as head of a Nazi-Muslim government in exile. From his headquarters in Berlin, a confiscated Jewish mansion, the Mufti laid out plans for a concentration camp for Jews near Nablus in Palestine modeled after Auschwitz. Photos exist of the Mufti touring Auschwitz with Heinrich Himmler.

Nazi attitudes regarding Islam were perhaps best expressed by Himmler, who is reported to have stated: "I have nothing against Islam because it educates the men in this division for me and promises them heaven if they fight and are killed in action. A very practical and attractive religion for soldiers."

Deriving financial support from a fund of confiscated Jewish money known as the Sonderfund, the Mufti was installed as head of the Nazi-created Islamic Institute (Islamische Zentralinstitut) in Dresden, where he would begin the process of educating future Islamic leaders in Nazi ideology.

To spur them on to victory, the Mufti delivered a speech in Berlin on March 1, 1944, to an audience of Hanzar troops in which he said: "Kill the Jews wherever you find them. This pleases god, history, and religion. This saves your honor. God is with you."

On that day, future Islamic terrorists received their marching orders.

The Nuremberg and Eichmann trials revealed that Nazi official Adolf Eichmann met with the British-appointed Mufti in Palestine in 1937. Following this meeting, the Mufti would become essentially an agent of Nazi Germany charged with the funding and organizing of pro-Nazi organizations in Egypt, Syria, Palestine and Iraq.

Splott David turns to insults when getting a lambasting during an argument.

Telling the truth about Muslim involvement with the Nazis in WW2 and so called "peace activists" and that makes me have a "pea brain", "a member of the EDL and/or BNP".

How dare I have a view that clashes with yours eh? I should be ashamed of myself.

I might be if I hadn't told the truth.

Unlike you.

You select just one meaningless paragraph from many in your clutching at straws efforts to avoid humiliation.

How about these paragraphs? Any comments?


On Feb. 10, 1943, Hitler ordered the creation of the Nazi SS Division Hanzar and approximately 100,000 Bosnian Muslims volunteered. The Mufti, serving as chief administrator, referred to these Nazi-Muslim brigades as "the cream of Islam."

The Hanzars, deriving their name from the type of dagger carried by Ottoman officers, played an active role in the extermination of Christians and Jews in the Balkans. The Mufti attempted to implement the Nazi "Pejani Plan," which called for the extermination of the Christian Serbs and which the Nazis eventually abandoned.

All in all, the Bosnian Muslim Hanzars assisted in the extermination of approximately 200,000 Christian Serbs, 40,000 Gypsies and 22,000 Jews.

You select just one meaningless paragraph from many in your clutching at straws efforts to avoid humiliation.

How about these paragraphs? Any comments?



On Feb. 10, 1943, Hitler ordered the creation of the Nazi SS Division Hanzar and approximately 100,000 Bosnian Muslims volunteered. The Mufti, serving as chief administrator, referred to these Nazi-Muslim brigades as "the cream of Islam."

The Hanzars, deriving their name from the type of dagger carried by Ottoman officers, played an active role in the extermination of Christians and Jews in the Balkans. The Mufti attempted to implement the Nazi "Pejani Plan," which called for the extermination of the Christian Serbs and which the Nazis eventually abandoned.

All in all, the Bosnian Muslim Hanzars assisted in the extermination of approximately 200,000 Christian Serbs, 40,000 Gypsies and 22,000 Jews.

How about these paragraphs? Any comments?

What is quite clear here is that Benny would rather not talk about what Israel is doing in the present day, so keeps harping on about Arab misdemeanours during the second world war, to try to deflect Splott's points about what is happening in Israel and Palestine now.

So we end up having a constant arguement about what the Grand Mufti got up to, or what the Bosnian SS militia did. Argueing about who did what 60-70 years ago in a subject that has nothing to do with Splott's point at all. Which is exactly what Benny want's to do, because it distracts from what Israel is doing now.

Benny, WW2 is over. There were lot's of victims, from many nations and races. And lot's oppressors, from many nations and races. And it was 70 years ago.

And no state has the right to bully another people because of crimes committed against them 70 years ago.

And you should argue about what Splott is saying now, rather than straw men which have nothing to do with the original point.

I've spoken about the present day.

Rockets flying into Israel and "peace activists" carrying weapons and using inflammatory language.

There is no balance to Splott's inane rantings. I'm merely redressing the issue.

And what happened years ago most certainly has a bearing on present day issues.

"the biggest terrorist outrage in the world (right up until the Pan Am flght bombing over Lockerbie), was Zionists bombing the King David Hotel in Jerusalem."

91 people died at the King David Hotel in 1946.

200,000 Christian Serbs, 40,000 Gypsies and 22,000 Jews were killed by Muslims in 1944.

259 people were killed by Muslims at Lockerbie in 1988.

3000 people were killed by Muslims in New York in 2001.

300 in Tanzania and Kenya, 202 in Bali, 191 in Madrid and 200 in Mumbai.

When it comes to "terrorist outrages" the Islamic world is Premier League.

BennyMossad wrote on Thu, 07 July 2011 21:01

"the biggest terrorist outrage in the world (right up until the Pan Am flght bombing over Lockerbie), was Zionists bombing the King David Hotel in Jerusalem."

91 people died at the King David Hotel in 1946.

200,000 Christian Serbs, 40,000 Gypsies and 22,000 Jews were killed by Muslims in 1944.

259 people were killed by Muslims at Lockerbie in 1988.

3000 people were killed by Muslims in New York in 2001.

300 in Tanzania and Kenya, 202 in Bali, 191 in Madrid and 200 in Mumbai.

When it comes to "terrorist outrages" the Islamic world is Premier League.

Benny, a polite request.

Please don't infect political posts dealing with the current situation in Gaza, and the West Bank, with outpourings from an islamofacist website.

You have not once even tried to address the reason for the topic in the first place. You have not made any comments regarding the current situation, surrounding the forthcoming UN vote on the proposals for the Palestinian state.

I refuse to debate with those who try and deal with a political situation from a religious pespective, and also those whose agenda is more in line with BNP/EDL way of thinking.

From now on you will be on ignore as you have conclusively shown (as others have pointed out) that you are incapable of sticking to, or even trying to address the thread's topic.

You seem to be a very confused, ill-educated individual, who is full of mis-placed hatred and malice..

If you hold those views why not start your own thread rather than try and infect others.

If the Nazis had won the war everyone would be advancing arguments and quotes here and now as to why society was 'moral' and 'good' and how no bad happened and when it did it was an 'isolated incident'.

There is no good and bad in the sense our 'leaders' try to convince us there is. There are merely winners and those in the process of winners who use - more or less, depending on time, culture and necessity - the same methods or the same ideals.

And then they lie to the sheep to tell them they are 'different to the bad guys'.

I see no difference between an SS Guard and someone capable of dropping an atom bomb on innocent civilians.

Or between someone oppressed by Nazis who want to kill them or some other State that wants to kill them.

Unless you believe in a numbers game...I don't.

al jabir wrote on Sat, 09 July 2011 23:12

If the Nazis had won the war everyone would be advancing arguments and quotes here and now as to why society was 'moral' and 'good' and how no bad happened and when it did it was an 'isolated incident'.

There is no good and bad in the sense our 'leaders' try to convince us there is. There are merely winners and those in the process of winners who use - more or less, depending on time, culture and necessity - the same methods or the same ideals.

And then they lie to the sheep to tell them they are 'different to the bad guys'.

I see no difference between an SS Guard and someone capable of dropping an atom bomb on innocent civilians.

Or between someone oppressed by Nazis who want to kill them or some other State that wants to kill them.

Unless you believe in a numbers game...I don't.

Neither does God thankfully.

Although Israel may be small - the size of Wales - it's people by no means perfect (which country is?) and to many nations insignificant, but that couldn't be further from the truth.

God made them a promise and He isn't in the habit of breaking promises - in fact He never has.

Genesis 12:

1 The LORD had said to Abram, "Go from your country, your people and your father's household to the land I will show you.
2 "I will make you into a great nation,
and I will bless you;
I will make your name great,
and you will be a blessing.
3 I will bless those who bless you,
and whoever curses you I will curse;
and all peoples on earth
will be blessed through you."

Nations should heed that statement, Egypt did not, they were then a mighty nation, a World Power. Now they are a third world country!!

Abrams grandson's name was changed by God from Jacob to Israel, the rest is a rather famous History!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_World

The Koran!

The Radio Times contains more prophecy!

The Bible contains thousands of prophecies and when the events have unfolded, they have all happened 100% as predicted.

truthpaste wrote on Wed, 13 July 2011 18:55

The Koran!

The Radio Times contains more prophecy!

The Bible contains thousands of prophecies and when the events have unfolded, they have all happened 100% as predicted.

I don't care if they are 1000% right! They have nothing whatsoever to do with modern day politics in the Middle East.

Can you show that you are at least capable of addressing the topic rather than repeat fairy stories..

Splott David wrote on Thu, 14 July 2011 10:50

truthpaste wrote on Wed, 13 July 2011 18:55

The Koran!

The Radio Times contains more prophecy!

The Bible contains thousands of prophecies and when the events have unfolded, they have all happened 100% as predicted.

I don't care if they are 1000% right! They have nothing whatsoever to do with modern day politics in the Middle East.

Can you show that you are at least capable of addressing the topic rather than repeat fairy stories..

Glad you didn't waste your time arguing the accuracy of Biblical Authority re Prophecy.

Now the reason that they relate to 20th and 21st Century events and therefore politics in the Middle East is because they address the scattering Worldwide of the 'Children of Israel' and their gathering back to a New Land, also the restoration of their pure language (Hebrew - what other Country in the history of our planet has had a language restored after 2,500 years?) and the sudden fruitfulness of their soil - a visit to your local Tesco/ Waitrose/ Asda/ Sainsbury's will confirm that part - whereas Mark Twain noted in his diary - some 150 years ago - that the same land we know as Israel today was a 'desolate wasteland' and after 40 miles walking he had seen one man and one tree. Today it is producing World class fruit, veg, dates and herbs.

If you want a glass of wine with that, they export World class Wines to 37 countries as this link will confirm > http://www.chiff.com/a/wine-israel.htm

God is blessing His People in His Land, and as a Welshman I can look in from outside and admire what is happening admid the human problems that have always beset that part of the middle-east. God has said it would heppen, and now it is before our very eyes!

Didn't you find Splo-Dai's reply peaceful then?