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That's a surprise
A man of Italian origin who voted in favour of greater aborigine rights and representation said in his opinion Australia was a country with many bigots and the vote didn't surprise him at all
The Chant Of Jimmy Blacksmith is a great film with dire warnings if you can find it online
They’ve spent decades mistreating them. They’re not going to admit their mistakes and change their mindset now.
people voting to decide an outcome , that's why we need to be fascist
Using the Royal we there are you?Quote:
Originally Posted by + the native hipster
Come on, the OP was ludicrous. It's actually comical how he can squeeze a party political point from practically everything.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
It's actually more ludicrous and concerning that Australia made a referendum out of this. Constitutional rights should not be subject to a plebiscite; governments should ensure de facto equal rights to all it's citizens without popular input.Quote:
Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish
If you don't think that Australia is inherently a racist country with a huge right wing vote then go and have a bite to eatQuote:
Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish
This was a chance yet again for it to move forward
It's all sunshine and happy times on the surface though
Equal rights do exist for all don't they?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
I think that's the point. This would have created something different and proved to be pretty divisive.
Recordings of hate crimes increased during the campaign from what I've read.
Identity politics like this nearly always creates more divisions than it solves.
That is not to say there are gaping inequalities in Australia, as there are. But my mates who live there didn't see how this solved anything and I'm inclined to agree.
15 years, approaching 40,000 posts, and you've never thought voice your concerns before ?Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
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Originally Posted by JamesWales
Formally and legally equal rights for all - but in practice that isn't the experience for many.
https://theconversation.com/racism-i...op-this-179769
The legacy of institutional racism against indigenous people and the long period of the White Australia Policy will last for more generations.
The referendum campaign does appear to have been divisive - but that doesn't mean the proposal was wrong, and sometimes it helps (in the long term) for the divisions to be exposed. The idea of a consultative role for indigenous people in the constitution is a watered down version of what has worked well in New Zealand for a long time.
I was in Australia twice in recent years and was very struck by the way many Australians (especially the young) have adopted a respectful references to First Nation people and tribal groups. It is strongest in the tourism and heritage sectors - and although it sounds scripted it also sounds genuine. There are similar conventions in New Zealand and South Africa. Some progress.
Well I mentioned it within this post as you clearly don't think it is of concern or that in your view as a white person living over here , that it isn'tQuote:
Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish
Of course you wouldQuote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
I mean it's not as if you are aborigine is it ?
White , conservative people voting not to give the indigenous community more rights ?Quote:
Originally Posted by + the native hipster
Well that's a surprise 😲
I didn't realise you were.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
I am not but I find it absolutely laughable that a white conservative voter from here can say he's got mates over in Australia who are certainly not going to be indigenous aborigine people and they think its divisive and so does heQuote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
Sit down and behave downtrodden people we know what's best for you !
Identity politics ff sake , get out of here
All anyone needs to do to realise why it was divisive is to read your post aboveQuote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Your intolerance for anyone else's view is incredible.
Australia just voted against it. Stop pretending to know more about it than them.
You are a jokerQuote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
You complain about the politicalisation of posts yet as sure as night follows day You ALWAYS come in with your alt right view
Nuance my arse , if you were around when Thatcher was propping up south africa you would have been right behind her
Give a country where the indigenous population has been persecuted , had their land stolen and displaced by white European immigrants and give those immigrants the vote and guess what the outcome would be ?
Especially with people like you cheering them on
The interview on the TV by an Australian of Italian heritage who spoke of the racism he and others faced and led him to say Australia was a racist country , especially against the aborigines is what resonates not your quasi libertarian right wing nonsense
He tried to speak but was swamped by the Barby q set
I think you need to re-read what I wrote and then read the absolute rants you've just posted.
The two leaders of the No campaign are indigenous Australians. You are demonstrating perfectly why it was all divisive. You aren't listening to the points at all.
They’re intolerant of tolerance, as you are.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
Hardly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Blue
I can only manage a limited number of 'causes' at any one time - currently it's up to around 15 and no room for any more sadly..Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY