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Dodgy Dave, Denis Skinner removed from the house
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Banned for telling the truth?
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perhaps he should consider some of the actions within his own party as well , JEREMY CORBYN’S frontbench spokesman on trade unions has been criticised for accepting almost £1.6m from sick and injured miners to fund the declining union branch he ran.
Ian Lavery, shadow minister for trade unions, was the general secretary of the Northumberland area of the National Union of Mineworkers (NUM) before entering parliament.
During his tenure it received donations from miners who had been compensated for industrial injuries.
These included more than £1m from payouts for vibration white finger and more than £600,000 from compensation for chronic bronchitis and emphysema, according to its annual returns lodged with the certification officer who regulates unions.
This weekend Lavery, 53, said he did not “recognise” the £1.6m figure in the returns, which show it was donated between 1996 and 2010.
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Nelsonca61
Good for you, Skinner. He should have had more support from his side over that.
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MPs aren’t allowed to be rude and insulting about their colleagues
Really? That's a good 40% of what they do.
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Originally Posted by
herberthuw
perhaps he should consider some of the actions within his own party as well , JEREMY CORBYN’S frontbench spokesman on trade unions has been criticised for accepting almost £1.6m from sick and injured miners to fund the declining union branch he ran.
Ian Lavery, shadow minister for trade unions, was the general secretary of the Northumberland area of the National Union of Mineworkers (NUM) before entering parliament.
During his tenure it received donations from miners who had been compensated for industrial injuries.
These included more than £1m from payouts for vibration white finger and more than £600,000 from compensation for chronic bronchitis and emphysema, according to its annual returns lodged with the certification officer who regulates unions.
This weekend Lavery, 53, said he did not “recognise” the £1.6m figure in the returns, which show it was donated between 1996 and 2010.
I have highlighted the key parts for you perhaps those who volunatrily donated thse sums wanted to give back something to the union maybe?
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Perhaps this is the more interesting article though: https://www.buzzfeed.com/jimwaterson...xes#.wvpDgB0wN
George Osbourne tells the BBC that he wouldn't benefit from cutting the top rate of tax in 2012 because his salary was below the threshold but has benefited (because of rent and shares on top of that salary) to the tune of £200,000. Surely that shows he's been "clever" with his wording, has misunderstood tax and income or lied - none of which are very attractive qualities.
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Originally Posted by
herberthuw
perhaps he should consider some of the actions within his own party as well , JEREMY CORBYN’S frontbench spokesman on trade unions has been criticised for accepting almost £1.6m from sick and injured miners to fund the declining union branch he ran.
Ian Lavery, shadow minister for trade unions, was the general secretary of the Northumberland area of the National Union of Mineworkers (NUM) before entering parliament.
During his tenure it received donations from miners who had been compensated for industrial injuries.
These included more than £1m from payouts for vibration white finger and more than £600,000 from compensation for chronic bronchitis and emphysema, according to its annual returns lodged with the certification officer who regulates unions.
This weekend Lavery, 53, said he did not “recognise” the £1.6m figure in the returns, which show it was donated between 1996 and 2010.
Key word: Donation
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Originally Posted by
Colonel Cærdiffi
Good for you, Skinner. He should have had more support from his side over that.
Man's a fool.
He would have made his point if he had withdrawn the remark,everyone know such apologies are worthless.
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Originally Posted by
surge
Perhaps this is the more interesting article though:
https://www.buzzfeed.com/jimwaterson...xes#.wvpDgB0wN
George Osbourne tells the BBC that he wouldn't benefit from cutting the top rate of tax in 2012 because his salary was below the threshold but has benefited (because of rent and shares on top of that salary) to the tune of £200,000. Surely that shows he's been "clever" with his wording, has misunderstood tax and income or lied - none of which are very attractive qualities.
I believe the preferred phrase is "economical with the truth".
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Speaking of clever wording, Cameron's Dad was involved in three offshore funds and Cameron has only disclosed benefiting from one of those (after four statements) and declared himself to be now "squeaky clean" on the matter but has not mentioned either way any of the others.
It's not so much that all politicians should disclose their full tax returns*, especially when so much of it is tax planning rather than tax evasion, but that the NHS and other crucial elements of the state are so underfunded, the young, the disabled, women have been hit so hard because of austerity while there is a trend building for those with the most money to aggressively avoid tax while supporting and being supported by the current government. This after such strong words by Cameron (now appears like a hypocrite) and Osbourne who apparently wanted us all in this together.
*although in the context of the snoopers charter.....So many in support of that motion do so because they "have nothing to hide" so why can't we see all for those who seemingly have quite a lot to hide?
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surge
Really? That's a good 40% of what they do.
But he was too straight up
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Skinner is a clown. He should have retired an allowed a younger person to take over.He is an object of fun and adds nothing to the commons at all. He reminds me of one the old hecklers on The Muppets show.He is on the gravy train afraid to let go of his position and will not admit to being over the hill.
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City123
Key word: Donation
:hehe:
what a herbert eh?
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Elwood Blues
Man's a fool.
He would have made his point if he had withdrawn the remark,everyone know such apologies are worthless.
What about Cameron's "terrorist sympathiser" remark? Should that have been allowed to stand?
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Skinner is a hero , Cameron is an oily two faced Eton tart
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valley boy
Skinner is a clown. He should have retired an allowed a younger person to take over.He is an object of fun and adds nothing to the commons at all. He reminds me of one the old hecklers on The Muppets show.He is on the gravy train afraid to let go of his position and will not admit to being over the hill.
He's a man of principle !!
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Elwood Blues
Man's a fool.
He would have made his point if he had withdrawn the remark,everyone know such apologies are worthless.
Man's a hero , bollocks to oily pig man
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Skinner is a hero , Cameron is an oily two faced Eton tart
I wouldn't go as far as a hero but he's good entertainment in the house :hehe: been out tonight and just catching up on the news, seems that Jezza has given Cameron a right good kicking today and about time!!!, this smashey and nicey image he portrays has got to stop, the jugular is there for the taking, the tax evading 2hat is on the back foot, it's time for the killer blow, it might even come from within his own party
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Are multi millionaire couple, sir Neil (I'll never accept an honour) Kinnock and Baroness Kinnock of Holyhead still politicians?
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Eric the Half a Bee
What about Cameron's "terrorist sympathiser" remark? Should that have been allowed to stand?
If he had said it in the Commons, I am sure Speaker Bercow would have taken him to task.
But it was said in a private meeting with his MP's
It was an Ill judged remark and he shouldn't have said it, it was unfair on the so called bunch.
As regards Corbyn himself, this is the man who invited Sinn Fein representatives to the Commons just two weeks after the Brighton bombings.
As the Americans say I'll take the fifth as to how Ill judged it was in that case!!
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dodgy dave :hehe:
thats skinner been polite :hehe:
dennis skinner the beast of bolsover - legend :thumbup:
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They're all at it, even lefties.
Ken Livingstone has gone on Russia Today to call for Cameron to be jailed over his taxes. That is the same Ken Livingstone who sheltered his earnings in a company so he could save £1,000-a-week in tax. Ken paid 21% corporation tax rate on £319,478 of earnings by invoicing to Silveta Ltd, instead of paying the 50% top rate of income tax. He also owned 99% of a similar company twice prosecuted for non-payment of taxes. Ken’s effective tax rate in 2012 was 14.5%. Today he laughably calls Cameron “the most hypocritical prime minister of my lifetime”…
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Elwood Blues
Man's a fool.
He would have made his point if he had withdrawn the remark,everyone know such apologies are worthless.
Skinner is far from a fool. If he had withdrawn the comment he wouldn't have had the same impact in the media, printed press and football messageboards. Job done - and no worry to him if he is suspended for a day.
As the most principled and honest MP in Parliament (attendance, expenses or however else you want to measure it) he is fireproof on these issues and it is his job to stick his boot into Cameron and his mates. He still sets the standard.