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Amos may well have made a couple of mistakes in the last two games , up till then he had been fabulous, I for one wasn't missing Marshall at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
"Warnock is desperate to replace the under par Amos" mmmmm sounds a bit harsh to say the least.
I suppose we do need cover and if his form blip continues we will need another keeper along side young Ben Wilson.
I agree that I wasn't missing Marshall that much, I was more disappointed to lose Moore tbh, but With Marshall in goal, we would've won last Saturday imhoQuote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock
Unless Marshall would have punched/kicked (take your pick), their centre forward.Quote:
Originally Posted by TH63
I take it you didnt attend either of the last 2 home games?
For every good save he makes 2 mistakes. We wont get clear of the bottom pack with him in goal.
The Barnsley game looked like some mad keeper on FIFA style of keeping. Terrible.
Even before this week I thought there were occassions when we had missed Marshall. Admittedly he was an outstanding keeper for this level so we weren't going to replace with the same quality but Amos' decision making has always been poor on several occassions, bad judement coming or not coming to claim a cross etc.
But this week I would put 3 of the 5 goals we conceeded down to him. The Wolves strike was a good hit but any keeper should have been able to palm it away from goal, the first against Barsnley was poor positioning and bad footwork to get across the goal mouth and god knows why he was so far off his line for the 3rd goal.
I'm not one for giving any of our players abuse at games and was ashamed to hear the sarcastic cheers aimed at him fronm the Canton stand after the Wolves goal, but clearly the guy is not good enough unless he improves sharpish!
Shows yet again what a difference a quality keeper makes to any team!
I was fairly comfortable with Amos until the last two games where he has made some big mistakes. He had his weaknesses, but was much more convincing than Wilson and his distribution was better than Marshall.
But on Saturday his confidence looked totally shot. Morrison was talking to him a lot after the first Barnsley goal - trying to lift him and keep him focussed I think. I don't know whether he needs to get back on the horse or be taken out of the firing line. I have no idea what Warnock will do but he wasn't making excuses for Amos after the game and seemed angry with him. I assume Wilson will come in if Amos is dropped, because he hasn't done anything to spoil his 'clean sheet' with the manager - but who knows, Warnock might even go for the professional reserve keeper that is Brian Murphy.
It looks inevitable that a keeper will be on the January shopping list.
Made some decent saves last night, but what an admission of our ineptitude in the transfer market this summer that would make.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
Got to wonder what Amos will be feeling like for the next two games. I've believed all along that we were after another keeper and, if it is true, then stories like this one aren't going to help for Brentford and Brighton - if I was Warnock, I'd tell him that's he's got two big chances to prove him wrong now.
Given that Wilson's not played a game in months, I'd still pick Amos over him.
Also doesn't help that Wilson is awful. Amos isn't up to much but Wilson is worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Amos has made mistakes but to be fair his defenders have not helped him either.The first goal against Barnsley was a very well taken goal.The last one Manga and Petier should have snuffed out.The other two he was left badly exposed
The first against Wolves was a bad mistake , and yes he looked a bit all over the place on Saturday .Quote:
Originally Posted by bezooo
Marshall had off days.
That said we need a choice if Amos is suffering some kind of confidence crisis.
Bettinelli played for Accrington in the game in which Cornelius was injured. He didn't look anything like a Championship keeper that night.
ExactlyQuote:
Originally Posted by valley boy
Think your point is important ,and to add this situation it was brought upon us and Amos because Wilson was even worse, generally Amos has put a good shift in , yes he has been caught out twice ,Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
( seen Marshall do the same, and those crosses he didn't like well that's a forgotten matter never mind his distribution ) all keepers have misjudgment moments don't make them crap, perhaps a look at our crap defense, woeful ability of giving the ball to the opposition, having no pace to recover lost ball and playing the wrong full backs anyway over those games might have had a part to play , yeh lets all blame the keeper, and feel better in ourselves.
I think we are desperately missing Marshall, but doubt we'll see him return even though most fans would love to see this happenQuote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock
I could see Warnock going for someone like Lee Camp in January