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Simple question.
Can you please give me one reason why exiting the EU will make my life better please?
The only caveat is that it needs to be factual, not an opinion or a gut instinct, but "this will happen if we leave, and this is why it will be good for you"
I'm off out for a while, so plenty of time for you to have a think about it. I look forward to reading the responses when I get back.
Thanks in advance.
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Originally Posted by TH63
I'll give my reason for not voting
In or out doesn't matter, the rich will still rule, the poor will still be poor,
1% own 93% of the worlds wealth, so in our out is irrelevant,
There will still be inequality, racists, a NHS still under pressure etc etc.
Economic arguments are null and void, as a wise man said " you can't have infinite growth on a finite planet"
No politician is going to argue for less growth
We should, (myself included) be having an internal referendum on how to be a kinder person, consume less and love more, CHANGE should come from within, change myself-change the world
The system isn't broke it's designed perfectly, designed by the rich and powerful to maintain their status
Good luck which ever way you choose to vote
But as for voting
I'm out.....
If we vote out ,hopefully we will regain control of our borders.
"Hopefully"... :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock
I always answer questions with another question, do you?Quote:
Originally Posted by ninianclark
This kind of 'answer' is exactly why TH63 is asking the question in the first place.Quote:
Originally Posted by ninianclark
We'll be able to send all the darkies back.
Less Polish plumbers
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Originally Posted by goslow
:hehe::hehe:
Your going to be very disappointed, it must really hurt you deep within that the worlds changing, the people are changing.
Get used to it :hehe:
:wales:
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Originally Posted by CCFC CASUAL
We want more not less
:wales:
Just wait untill turkey joins you won't be able to sleep at night :hehe:
Because I'm too old to learn German. They are trying for European domination.Quote:
Originally Posted by TH63
My barber is Turkish and I love Turkish food but the influx of too many is a concern.Quote:
Originally Posted by tigerbaybluebird
We wouldn't be paying millions and millions of £££££££££ to the EU every week. I would like to see wales re-negotiate the Barnett Formula which would benefit everyone in Wales including you TH63
I've been waiting for someone to link me to the beneficial monetary impact on us leaving. Could you provide a link to the figures you quote as I thought Wales was a net beneficiary of funds from the EU but I haven't looked it up myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Whisperer
I'd also like to know why you think that Westminster will give us anything more if we leave the EU - they haven't been bothered up until now, why should that change? In fact it's only the EU that has provided us with additional funds in recent years.
Finally, if the Governor of the Bank of England think it'll be bad for the economy why do you think otherwise?
Ta!
Nearly 5 hours and counting. Not one person has answered your question, namely "why, exiting the EU will make your life better?" This doesn't surprise me as there is no answer to this question.Quote:
Originally Posted by TH63
I would add another question. Which specific law emanating from Brussels has adversely affected people on here?
Correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonny London
In the same way there is no answer for remain - only suppositions and possibilities, based mainly on fear...
We want good old fashioned British criminals breaking good old fashioned British laws.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pearcey3
Will they all have to come back from their villas in Spain if we leave the EU?Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
The world hasn't changed,the third world shitholes are still third world shitholes no matter how much help the first world gives it.Quote:
Originally Posted by tigerbaybluebird
Thailand is a lot different than it was 30 years ago - it is now a major tourist destination, similarly Vietnam and Cambodia. India have joined the space race (I concede that poverty is still rife, and the Indian Government must change priorities), and have the some of the finest IT training colleges in the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by goslow
The third world remains third world through corruption and exploitation.
Read what i Said....Penarth, are you suggesting that we don't give the EU any funds?Quote:
Originally Posted by Penarth Blues
Are you suggesting that the net effect of these donations is negative?Quote:
Originally Posted by Whisperer
All afternoon and this is arguably the closest anyone has come to answering my question.Quote:
Originally Posted by Whisperer
Two problems though:
1. Yes we pay in "millions and millions of £££££", but in return we also receive "millions and millions" in direct funding and also indirectly as a product of commercial overseas investment and trade. That said, I accept that nobody can put an exact £ figure on it.
2. The Barnett formula is not an EU mechanism and is completely under the control of the U.K. Government.
Not at all - we're a net contributor to Europe, one of the few. However, for you to suggest that we'll continue to be as successful financially as GB if we leave would be to fly in the face of every economic analysis of people who know better than I (and I suspect you as well). This could mean we lose far more out of the overall economy than the money we currently provide to the EU as part of the EU.Quote:
Originally Posted by Whisperer
At the level of Wales we do well out of the EU gaining significant additional funds to supplement what Westminster deigns to give us. We are of as much interest to Westminster as the North of England and can't expect any favouritism from an even more right wing Tory party should we leave.
So, I'll ask my question again. Can you link me to the articles you have read showing that leaving the EU will be a net positive benefit to either the UK or Wales? Not just thinking we don't have to give them money any more, as life is not that simple.