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Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2

Doesnt look like to me that Mueller’s plans have failed
Is this what you’re referring to?
From the outside it looks a very professional investigation led by a man with previous for convicting serious organised criminals.

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It all depends if he was working with Peter Strzok and Andrew McCabe or against them. It was Obama people and journalists who initially targeted Flynn under the Logan Act, via unmasking and leaking. Only two people have ever been indicted on charges of violating the Act, one in 1802 and the other in 1852. Neither was convicted of violating the Act. The only reason they did it was to get at Trump, by pushing the Trump Russia Collusion conspiracy. Don't worry, the truth is all going to come out, and then we can evaluate what Mueller was really up to.

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

It all depends if he was working with Peter Strzok and Andrew McCabe or against them. It was Obama people and journalists who initially targeted Flynn under the Logan Act, via unmasking and leaking. Only two people have ever been indicted on charges of violating the Act, one in 1802 and the other in 1852. Neither was convicted of violating the Act. The only reason they did it was to get at Trump, by pushing the Trump Russia Collusion conspiracy. Don't worry, the truth is all going to come out, and then we can evaluate what Mueller was really up to.

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I’m not worried.

What truth is coming out (in your opinion)?

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

It all depends if he was working with Peter Strzok and Andrew McCabe or against them. It was Obama people and journalists who initially targeted Flynn under the Logan Act, via unmasking and leaking. Only two people have ever been indicted on charges of violating the Act, one in 1802 and the other in 1852. Neither was convicted of violating the Act. The only reason they did it was to get at Trump, by pushing the Trump Russia Collusion conspiracy. Don't worry, the truth is all going to come out, and then we can evaluate what Mueller was really up to.

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So Flynn was prosecuted under the Logan Act then. News to me.

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Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays

So Flynn was prosecuted under the Logan Act then. News to me.

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I said targeted under the Logan Act, he was unmasked and it was leaked to journalists.

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Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2

I’m not worried.

What truth is coming out (in your opinion)?

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About the Russia collusion hoax.

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

This just popped up

EXCLUSIVE: FBI RAIDS HOME OF WHISTLEBLOWER ON CLINTON FOUNDATION, LAWYER SAYS

https://dailycaller.com/2018/11/29/f...inton-uranium/

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GRASSLEY DEMANDS ANSWERS FROM WRAY OVER RAID OF WHISTLEBLOWER ON CLINTON FOUNDATION

https://dailycaller.com/2018/12/03/g...leblower-raid/

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

I said targeted under the Logan Act, he was unmasked and it was leaked to journalists.

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Targetted by people with no prosecutive powers, wow! Anyway he did plead guilty to making materially false statements to the FBI. Furthermore despite wild rantings about the FBI changing statements it would appear that Flynn decided the best action open to him was to fully co-operate with Mueller rather than challenge the process as illegal and misleading.

As someone who I know only forms conclusions on the basis of painstaking reviews of official documents why do you believe the version of events you have aired today and on other occasions rather than the official document filed with the court seeking mitigating sentencing due to Flynn's co-operation in giving first hand evidence of Trump transition team "interactions" with Russian government officials and his substantial assistance in a criminal investigation.

ps - have read the Treehouse version of events which incredibly mirrors your original argument.

Donald still has the respect of everyone.


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"Which is the one that matters" :facepalm:

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Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays

Targetted by people with no prosecutive powers, wow! Anyway he did plead guilty to making materially false statements to the FBI. Furthermore despite wild rantings about the FBI changing statements it would appear that Flynn decided the best action open to him was to fully co-operate with Mueller rather than challenge the process as illegal and misleading.

As someone who I know only forms conclusions on the basis of painstaking reviews of official documents why do you believe the version of events you have aired today and on other occasions rather than the official document filed with the court seeking mitigating sentencing due to Flynn's co-operation in giving first hand evidence of Trump transition team "interactions" with Russian government officials and his substantial assistance in a criminal investigation.

ps - have read the Treehouse version of events which incredibly mirrors your original argument.

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I hope the redacted bits are explosive as you think they are, otherwise you will look like a sycophant :wink:

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

I hope the redacted bits are explosive as you think they are, otherwise you will look like a sycophant :wink:

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Who provided the glue between these three quotes do you think?

1) M.Flynn guilty just rewards for lying to the President. It shows Trump made the right decision to fire him.

2) Very likely FBI changed the interview 302s which means that Flynn is going to walk and sue their sorry asses.

3) ps Charges against Flynn will be dropped!

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Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays

Who provided the glue between these three quotes do you think?

1) M.Flynn guilty just rewards for lying to the President. It shows Trump made the right decision to fire him.

2) Very likely FBI changed the interview 302s which means that Flynn is going to walk and sue their sorry asses.

3) ps Charges against Flynn will be dropped!

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Trump firing Flynn had nothing to do with the Mueller investigation. If it transpires that the 302's were altered, of course the charges will be annulled and compensation sought. You are really trying a bit too hard to defend all of these people. I hope it works out well for your kind of people, so that you don't become forever tainted by them :biggrin:

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

Trump firing Flynn had nothing to do with the Mueller investigation. If it transpires that the 302's were altered, of course the charges will be annulled and compensation sought. You are really trying a bit too hard to defend all of these people. I hope it works out well for your kind of people, so that you don't become forever tainted by them :biggrin:

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So let me get this right. The conspiracist theory that the interview notes were changed has been around for over 6 months. Yet in that period neither Flynn nor his legal team has done anything to challenge the charges against him and continued to fully co-operate with Mueller. Strange that.

Trump's firing Flynn had nothing to do with Mueller? I guess neither did Donny asking Comey to "give him a break" then (cf Rudy Guliani ABC News)!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DtqhWeZWoAIp7Og.jpg

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Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays

So let me get this right. The conspiracist theory that the interview notes were changed has been around for over 6 months. Yet in that period neither Flynn nor his legal team has done anything to challenge the charges against him and continued to fully co-operate with Mueller. Strange that.

Trump's firing Flynn had nothing to do with Mueller? I guess neither did Donny asking Comey to "give him a break" then (cf Rudy Guliani ABC News)!

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Someone within the Obama admin leaked Flynn’s call to the WaPo. That was a felony. Why is there no interest by Mueller in investigating this actual crime? h/t <a href="https://twitter.com/KimStrassel?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@KimStrassel</a> <a href="https://t.co/IFFUlFqo5Z">pic.twitter.com/IFFUlFqo5Z</a></p>&mdash; Nick Short (@PoliticalShort) <a href="https://twitter.com/PoliticalShort/status/1070342757359763458?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 5, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Someone within the Obama admin leaked Flynn’s call to the WaPo. That was a felony. Why is there no interest by Mueller in investigating this actual crime? h/t <a href="https://twitter.com/KimStrassel?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@KimStrassel</a> <a href="https://t.co/IFFUlFqo5Z">pic.twitter.com/IFFUlFqo5Z</a></p>— Nick Short (@PoliticalShort) <a href="https://twitter.com/PoliticalShort/status/1070342757359763458?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 5, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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The appearance of a bunch of Fox aligned Butwhataboutists talking about Mueller saying Flynn was helpful must be of great comfort to Butwhataboutists everywhere in these troubling times.

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Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays

The appearance of a bunch of Fox aligned Butwhataboutists talking about Mueller saying Flynn was helpful must be of great comfort to Butwhataboutists everywhere in these troubling times.

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She is a real journalist who has actually spotted a real crime!

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

She is a real journalist who has actually spotted a real crime!

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What's the real crime?

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Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays

What's the real crime?

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Not the ones Flynn, Manafort. Papa what’s his name are guilty of apparently .....😃

Former H.W. Bush Attorney General William Barr is leading candidate to lead Justice Department

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/p...te/2228091002/

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Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2

Not the ones Flynn, Manafort. Papa what’s his name are guilty of apparently .....��

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Leaking classified information is a 10 year stretch in jail.

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

Leaking classified information is a 10 year stretch in jail.

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What do you think the real crime is with classified information being leaked to this journalist?

https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/41...isa-abuses-yet

Over on twitter Trumpy having a major hissy fit.

Spelling by as bye too.

Who’s getting indicted next for him to be so vexed then?

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Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2

Over on twitter Trumpy having a major hissy fit.

Spelling by as bye too.

Who’s getting indicted next for him to be so vexed then?

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Took him an hour to write those five tweets - one every 10-12 minutes and then a big push of 20 minutes to get the last one done. :hehe:

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Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2

Over on twitter Trumpy having a major hissy fit.

Spelling by as bye too.

Who’s getting indicted next for him to be so vexed then?

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Wow, truth bombs dropping all over the place :biggrin:

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Originally Posted by lardy

Fox News, definitely not a state propaganda media outlet remember, send their two most high profile presenters to go on stage with Trump at his final rally before election day.

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Trump hires someone he saw on Fox as UN ambassador - Heather Nauert, former Fox presenter.