Ollie Tanner - our greatest derby goal in many seasons

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Throne’s header, a free kick from Whitts and I liked Danny Ward’s winner a few years ago.

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🤣 if your going for the minor derby Pilks goal at Ashton Gate was a cracker as well.

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Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

I'm sure many will say Bellamy's at the Caravan Park, but here's a youngster with hardly any football league experience, having not been involved and not touched the ball, comes on as a sub, controls one perfectly, gets a yard and scores a screamer. Remarkable.

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That control and first touch was sublime, a star in the making that kid.!

The upcoming left-backs will be terrified, he'll need protection, they are going to kick him and drag him down every time, and the ref will need to yellow card them the first time.

Bellamy’s was a 35 yard screamer after sending Rangel running 10 yards the wrong way.

Great goal by Tanner but Bellamys was next level

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Originally Posted by WJ99mobile

Bellamy’s was a 35 yard screamer after sending Rangel running 10 yards the wrong way.

Great goal by Tanner but Bellamys was next level

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The point here being that Bellamy was a well seasoned pro', Tanner's the new kid on the block and not played a lot of 1st team football and the way he took that goal was superb and it's unfair to compare it to every screamer scored against them down west since Jesus was at school.
Hail the new kid on the block, the weekends his end of.

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Originally Posted by Grangenders

The goal set the scene for the penalty - the defender was afraid to let him cut inside again.

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The Defender got himself in a dog awful position, square on and flat footed. You would have thought that the jacks would have sent someone out there with him, no position to be in for a defender. Oh well.....

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Originally Posted by lincoln blue

The point here being that Bellamy was a well seasoned pro', Tanner's the new kid on the block and not played a lot of 1st team football and the way he took that goal was superb and it's unfair to compare it to every screamer scored against them down west since Jesus was at school.
Hail the new kid on the block, the weekends his end of.

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The confidence is what impressed me most. Just come on, very little game time, yet he has the belief to take the player on and buzz the ball across the keeper. Plenty of seasoned pro's would passed that one on.

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Originally Posted by Ivortheengine

Let’s see if he can keep it going. Don’t get carried away,just because he scored a goal against a really poor Swansea team,who never looked like winning. As Welsh Derbies go, both teams contributed to a poor spectacle. Home advantage made the difference.

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Utter, unadulterated rubbish, as usual.

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

The confidence is what impressed me most. Just come on, very little game time, yet he has the belief to take the player on and buzz the ball across the keeper. Plenty of seasoned pro's would passed that one on.

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Didn’t Bulut sub him at Ipswich due to his lack of tracking back, this after he’d delivered a sublime cross for Meite to put us two up which, unfortunately, he buggered up. Let’s hope Bulut doesn’t get too ‘technical’ with him. A natural ‘just run at ‘em’ type of footballer is a nightmare for defenders, if he was playing to orders when he came on last night, fair play to Bulut but I prefer to believe that Tanner came on with the attitude of ‘f*ck ‘em, they’re having it tonight, tracking back? Balls to that, others can cover for me’.

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

The confidence is what impressed me most. Just come on, very little game time, yet he has the belief to take the player on and buzz the ball across the keeper. Plenty of seasoned pro's would passed that one on.

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Absolutely agree....don't over-coach him...let his instincts keep him going direct...defenders are scared of that sort of talent...

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Originally Posted by Maurice Swan

Absolutely agree....don't over-coach him...let his instincts keep him going direct...defenders are scared of that sort of talent...

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Defenders hate players running at them. We should all rejoice in what Tanner did yesterday, it was perfect, a thing of beauty, something we have been starved of for so long. The back down to Earth bit is going to be the rest of his game. I like what you're saying Mo, in terms of allowing him to do it naturally, but there will be times when he isn't going to get the better of a fullback, or the ball isn't going to bounce for him. Which means that he's going to have to rely on the other side of the game, like dropping deeper, disrupting play, coming inside etc. We don't really know if he can or will develop into that player. If he can get half decent at the 'Other' stuff, then we may have a player. Colwill is a case in point.

Anyway Mo,lets just enjoy it, wonderful goal, from the pass, touch, the finish and the celebration. Its been a long time coming :thumbup:

No Peter King

For us oldies no other goal in the derby will eclipse John Buchanan’s 35 yard screamer in 1980. It was one of those moments when the crowd seemed to freeze briefly before erupting when the reality of what had just happened sunk in,

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

Defenders hate players running at them. We should all rejoice in what Tanner did yesterday, it was perfect, a thing of beauty, something we have been starved of for so long. The back down to Earth bit is going to be the rest of his game. I like what you're saying Mo, in terms of allowing him to do it naturally, but there will be times when he isn't going to get the better of a fullback, or the ball isn't going to bounce for him. Which means that he's going to have to rely on the other side of the game, like dropping deeper, disrupting play, coming inside etc. We don't really know if he can or will develop into that player. If he can get half decent at the 'Other' stuff, then we may have a player. Colwill is a case in point.

Anyway Mo,lets just enjoy it, wonderful goal, from the pass, touch, the finish and the celebration. Its been a long time coming :thumbup:

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Don't remember George Best tracking back too much...let him do what he can do..!

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Originally Posted by 79blue

For us oldies no other goal in the derby will eclipse John Buchanan’s 35 yard screamer in 1980. It was one of those moments when the crowd seemed to freeze briefly before erupting when the reality of what had just happened sunk in,

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Yes...I think that THE greatest ever goal against our friends.... I was there....

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Originally Posted by Maurice Swan

Don't remember George Best tracking back too much...let him do what he can do..!

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Mo, he's not George Best, he isn't even David Giles yet.....:hehe:

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

The Defender got himself in a dog awful position, square on and flat footed. You would have thought that the jacks would have sent someone out there with him, no position to be in for a defender. Oh well.....

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One of the weaknesses of a back 3 is that you can end up with centre backs defending against wingers in the channels, they really don't want to be there. Neither of their wide centre backs were comfortable at any point with Meite, Grant and Tanner running at them

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Originally Posted by City123

One of the weaknesses of a back 3 is that you can end up with centre backs defending against wingers in the channels, they really don't want to be there. Neither of their wide centre backs were comfortable at any point with Meite, Grant and Tanner running at them

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True. We stretched them as well, something we haven't done in years, probably since Dave Jones was here.

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

True. We stretched them as well, something we haven't done in years, probably since Dave Jones was here.

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Yep. Did a job on them in midfield as well, Grimes & Fulton were anonymous

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Originally Posted by City123

One of the weaknesses of a back 3 is that you can end up with centre backs defending against wingers in the channels, they really don't want to be there. Neither of their wide centre backs were comfortable at any point with Meite, Grant and Tanner running at them

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Also helped that Ng and Collins were high and wide, we’ve stopped them coming inside and it killed them. They had so much joy. Swansea were so poor, though. First time in ages we’ve wanted it more and went for the kill from the first minute.

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

Also helped that Ng and Collins were high and wide, we’ve stopped them coming inside and it killed them. They had so much joy. Swansea were so poor, though. First time in ages we’ve wanted it more and went for the kill from the first minute.

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Yup. Under previous managers we've tucked in, tried to make the pitch narrow. Yesterday we were prepared to leave space, trust players to work things out. Swansea are ****ing rhubarb, but we played really well during the 2nd half, a bit of intensity and a willingness to win. Ramsey has made such a difference, he makes himself available in positions no other Cardiff player has since god knows when. It really makes a difference.

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

Yup. Under previous managers we've tucked in, tried to make the pitch narrow. Yesterday we were prepared to leave space, trust players to work things out. Swansea are ****ing rhubarb, but we played really well during the 2nd half, a bit of intensity and a willingness to win. Ramsey has made such a difference, he makes himself available in positions no other Cardiff player has since god knows when. It really makes a difference.

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His standards will have rubbed off on the rest of them too. Ramsey gets the ball in tight spaces, and he comes away with the ball. You can just give him it and he keeps it. He's so good. I'm so pleased for him, too. I cannot be objective about him but I am delighted he's playing so well.

I also think Wintle parking himself helps Siopis. Siopis needs to be all over the pitch, when Ralls plays instead of Wintle (with Siopis) we leave some enormous gaps in the centre of the park.

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

Also helped that Ng and Collins were high and wide, we’ve stopped them coming inside and it killed them. They had so much joy. Swansea were so poor, though. First time in ages we’ve wanted it more and went for the kill from the first minute.

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Can’t really say we went for the kill from the first minute, the first half was a very poor standard of football from both teams with misplaced passes and very little creativity, only shot on target in the first half from both sides was Meite’s shot in injury time. We greatly improved in the 2nd half , they , if anything, got worse.

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Originally Posted by Don Corleone

Can’t really say we went for the kill from the first minute, the first half was a very poor standard of football from both teams with misplaced passes and very little creativity, only shot on target in the first half from both sides was Meite’s shot in injury time. We greatly improved in the 2nd half , they , if anything, got worse.

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The intent was there, though. We tidied things up in the second half. We took the game to them even if we didn't do much with it. It is a massive change in mentality from past games.

Me to. We were 1-3 down with less than 10 mins left. Peter Kitchen scored and the rest is history. Yesterday was as good though.

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

The Defender got himself in a dog awful position, square on and flat footed. You would have thought that the jacks would have sent someone out there with him, no position to be in for a defender. Oh well.....

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it really was school boy defending, if it was one of my girls doing it, I would have though " do we not teach you anything "

he of course invited Ollie to go outside him, you would, you wouldnt want a player cutting side you, but he did it in such a way that it left the door so far open for Ollie to cut inside and the defender was done