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Re: Wrexham talking about expanding the racecourse to 55k
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
They said that about Cardiff City Stadium
And we were getting crowds of 30,000 in the Premier League despite being relegated.
Even if (and that’s a gargantuan IF) Wrexham made it to the Premier League, they won’t be selling out a 30,000 capacity stadium every week.
55,000 is beyond ridiculous.
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Re: Wrexham talking about expanding the racecourse to 55k
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
The wrexham urban area is 120 k
So to fill an even 30k stadium you'd be looking at the equivalent of 25% of that area turning up regularly. In the season before Reynolds and McElhenny came in they averaged 4,000, the last time they had an average attendance of 10,000 was 44 years ago
I'm all for ambition, but the idea of Wrexham having a stadium and fanbase of that size is nuts, that would put them above the likes of Everton & Chelsea
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Re: Wrexham talking about expanding the racecourse to 55k
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Originally Posted by
Canton Kev
And we were getting crowds of 30,000 in the Premier League despite being relegated.
Even if (and that’s a gargantuan IF) Wrexham made it to the Premier League, they won’t be selling out a 30,000 capacity stadium every week.
55,000 is beyond ridiculous.
Exactly, even with success there just isn't the population there for them to regularly pull that kind of crowd.
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Re: Wrexham talking about expanding the racecourse to 55k
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Originally Posted by
Canton Kev
And we were getting crowds of 30,000 in the Premier League despite being relegated.
Even if (and that’s a gargantuan IF) Wrexham made it to the Premier League, they won’t be selling out a 30,000 capacity stadium every week.
55,000 is beyond ridiculous.
They were getting 10k plus in the national league with most games completely sold out.
Obviously before the hype they weren't doing that but don't underestimate the power of Disney etc......
It's amusing to see people talk about the size of the town as if that's the main metric. They've become and are becoming more of a reality TV football side. They are aware of it and embracing it. The attendances go up everywhere they go.
They'd easily sell out 30k Week in week out in the Premier league.
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Re: Wrexham talking about expanding the racecourse to 55k
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Originally Posted by
City123
So to fill an even 30k stadium you'd be looking at the equivalent of 25% of that area turning up regularly. In the season before Reynolds and McElhenny came in they averaged 4,000, the last time they had an average attendance of 10,000 was 44 years ago
I'm all for ambition, but the idea of Wrexham having a stadium and fanbase of that size is nuts, that would put them above the likes of Everton & Chelsea
I am not supporting the idea of a big stadium for Wrexham
Even 20 k would be far too big
But it's not like our place is packed week in week out so I think we should save the bow and arrows
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Re: Wrexham talking about expanding the racecourse to 55k
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
I am not supporting the idea of a big stadium for Wrexham
Even 20 k would be far too big
But it's not like our place is packed week in week out so I think we should save the bow and arrows
If it was people walking through turnstiles announced rather than including absent season ticket holders I'd say wrexham are already having more people watching them at home than we are in the Last 2 seasons in national league and league 2.
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Re: Wrexham talking about expanding the racecourse to 55k
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Originally Posted by
Father Dougal
They were getting 10k plus in the national league with most games completely sold out.
Obviously before the hype they weren't doing that but don't underestimate the power of Disney etc......
It's amusing to see people talk about the size of the town as if that's the main metric. They've become and are becoming more of a reality TV football side. They are aware of it and embracing it. The attendances go up everywhere they go.
They'd easily sell out 30k Week in week out in the Premier league.
They weren’t selling out their EFL Trophy games this season. Now I get it’s a diddy competition but if they had 30,000 people wanting to go to games they’d have been going to those ones too as you’d take anything you could get.
Wrexham’s fan base has the majority living overseas. They might sell 30,000 shirts but 90% of those will be shipped to America. They can sell out a friendly in a 60,000 seater stadium in the states but only get 5,000 and 7,000 against Burton and Port Vale in the cup.
Their fan base in the US will probably keep increasing for years but most of them will never go to a game. In the UK, how many people are going to be travelling from outside Wrexham and the surrounding area? It’ll be a number in the hundreds, not thousands. I reckon a 20,000 stadium will be fine for Wrexham for a long time.
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Re: Wrexham talking about expanding the racecourse to 55k
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
They said that about Cardiff City Stadium
and they came, look at the time in the prem and Wales games. :thumbup::thumbup:
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Re: Wrexham talking about expanding the racecourse to 55k
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
20 k max
No way are wrexham a bigger supported club than Swansea
GOD has spoken. Thread over.
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Re: Wrexham talking about expanding the racecourse to 55k
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Originally Posted by
blue matt
and they came, look at the time in the prem and Wales games. :thumbup::thumbup:
Mmmm
We have had 2 seasons in the top flight since the stadium has been built
They have turned up but only for the glory games
It doesn't seem a reason to have 33000 seats if we only fill them twice every 16 years
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Re: Wrexham talking about expanding the racecourse to 55k
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Originally Posted by
Dembe
GOD has spoken. Thread over.
It's not my fault if you are unable to deal with reality
If you think Wrexham require a stadium of the size in that report and that a ground holding 20000 , if that , would be far more sensible then I would go and have a rest in a care home
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Re: Wrexham talking about expanding the racecourse to 55k
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
I am not supporting the idea of a big stadium for Wrexham
Even 20 k would be far too big
But it's not like our place is packed week in week out so I think we should save the bow and arrows
In th Championship? Could do it with support from North Wales. Don't base your opinion on Wrexham attendances from crap in the 80s.
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Re: Wrexham talking about expanding the racecourse to 55k
Probably need a few generations of success to get anywhere near 40k+ regularly.
Would need to basically convert the North Wales plastics.
I just don't see the interest lasting that long, the Disney series works as long as they progress regularly.
Good luck to them but 25000, championship football and more Wales matches would be a bloody good aim for wrexham.
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Re: Wrexham talking about expanding the racecourse to 55k
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Trigger
Probably need a few generations of success to get anywhere near 40k+ regularly.
Would need to basically convert the North Wales plastics.
I just don't see the interest lasting that long, the Disney series works as long as they progress regularly.
Good luck to them but 25000, championship football and more Wales matches would be a bloody good aim for wrexham.
There's no way Wrexham could get gates to justify building a stadium fitting 25000 , never mind 40 k
20 , at a push
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Re: Wrexham talking about expanding the racecourse to 55k
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
In th Championship? Could do it with support from North Wales. Don't base your opinion on Wrexham attendances from crap in the 80s.
North Wales is home to even more wannabee Liverpool and United fans than down here
Wrexham have done well , I think it's great
But talk of building a big stadium for a small club is just publicity as far as I can see
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Re: Wrexham talking about expanding the racecourse to 55k
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
North Wales is home to even more wannabee Liverpool and United fans than down here
Wrexham have done well , I think it's great
But talk of building a big stadium for a small club is just publicity as far as I can see
Sludge they are averaging nearly 12k in league 2. They averaged 10k in non league. Those numbers would be double if their capacity allowed it.
They'd struggle to get 20k in the Championship or premier league? Absolutely ridiculous statement.
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Re: Wrexham talking about expanding the racecourse to 55k
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Mmmm
We have had 2 seasons in the top flight since the stadium has been built
They have turned up but only for the glory games
It doesn't seem a reason to have 33000 seats if we only fill them twice every 16 years
We averaged nearly 32k last time we were in the Premier. Half the premier league averaged less than us.
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Re: Wrexham talking about expanding the racecourse to 55k
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Originally Posted by
Father Dougal
Sludge they are averaging nearly 12k in league 2. They averaged 10k in non league. Those numbers would be double if their capacity allowed it.
They'd struggle to get 20k in the Championship or premier league? Absolutely ridiculous statement.
Of course, but that's Sludge.
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Re: Wrexham talking about expanding the racecourse to 55k
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Originally Posted by
Father Dougal
We averaged nearly 32k last time we were in the Premier. Half the premier league averaged less than us.
Filling a 32 k stadium if we are in the Premier league is not a sign we need a big stadium
Because most of the time we are not in the Premier league and the ground is sometimes not much more than half full
I remember when Sam took over there was talk of building a big stadium and it was a daft idea then and it's a daft idea for wrexham too
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Re: Wrexham talking about expanding the racecourse to 55k
They haven't sad they are PLANNING a 55k stadium tho, they are just talking up the club and saying they could maybe fit 50-55k in. The media are taking a statement and building a story that doesnt actually exist, so unlike the press in UK.
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Re: Wrexham talking about expanding the racecourse to 55k
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Eric the Half a Bee
Of course, but that's Sludge.
I remember fans like you when we would get the odd big gate in the lower leagues
Absolutely deluded
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Re: Wrexham talking about expanding the racecourse to 55k
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
I remember fans like you when we would get the odd big gate in the lower leagues
Absolutely deluded
But you are basing all of your opinions on attendances on the 80s and 90s, which is utter rubbish.
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Re: Wrexham talking about expanding the racecourse to 55k
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Eric the Half a Bee
But you are basing all of your opinions on attendances on the 80s and 90s, which is utter rubbish.
Wrexham need a stadium about the size that Plymouth have , if they are doing well
Anything else is utter rubbish
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Re: Wrexham talking about expanding the racecourse to 55k
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Wrexham need a stadium about the size that Plymouth have , if they are doing well
Anything else is utter rubbish
Just checking- even earlier tonight you said a stadium of 20k would be far too big for wrexham- even in the Championship or Premier league
Knowing they were averaging more than half that non league and selling out every week and averaging nearly 12k in league 2 i just can't see why you think their crowds won't increase if they carry on going up the divisions?
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Re: Wrexham talking about expanding the racecourse to 55k
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Wrexham need a stadium about the size that Plymouth have , if they are doing well
Anything else is utter rubbish
On what figures are you basing this ?