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I don't know if he's the player we need, but I always feared us coming up against him as he normally produced.
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thehumblegringo
I'm not sure I've ever read such a flawed argument in my life.
:hehe::hehe:
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Until the last season always thought he was class. But when I saw him for Villa, he failed to impress.
Now this might be down to being at odds with managers and could be corrected by his old mukka, Warlock. On the other hand, at his age, he 's certainly past his best.
I'd take him, provided the fee is low and his wages are not excessive. If this is not the case, drop it.
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We best not bid for Fabianski, the Ayew brothers, Mawson, Joe Allen, Butland, Foster, Livermore et al then, Bluetit will have a fit!!
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BLUETIT
So, they failed at the first step, then they failed at the second step.
Why are fans so keen to sign losers ?
It's the same when teams get relegated, a lot of fans start screaming, "sign him, sign him", for f ucks sake the fella just got relegated.
Like we signed marshal from relegated Norwich ( I think it was Norwich) :hehe:
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Croesy Blue
Autocorrect has ruined my athleitco point 🤦🏻*♂️
Yea they also won the Europa league.
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Interesting point on Snodgrass
Slaven Bilic was manager and was farmed out on loan for the next season, but not before there was the venting of a lot of bad blood both ways on behalf of the Hammers' hierarchy and the player himself, ultimately ending in a situation where a return to West Ham United was all but impossible.
Seems they do want rid of no matter what the new manager wants
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Trigger
Yea they also won the Europa league.
**** of course, a month is a long time in my head :hehe:
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Croesy Blue
**** of course, a month is a long time in my head :hehe:
:) besides that thought your point was bang on
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Would be a very good signing
Neil is going to set us up as hard to beat next year with a defence that will sit deep to try and stop the flair players of teams (and they all have them in PL) a midfield of workaholics to close down space (Ralls is so important next season) and pace up front.
Set plays will be vital
Snodgrass will be utterly vital to this plan
I don't doubt this story for a minute - I believe Neil knows what he's doing and Snodgrass is a archetypal Warnock signing. He's even said so about his time at Leeds.
He didn't play well in the P/O final but he was more responsible for getting them there than that show pony Grealish
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Originally Posted by
BLUETIT
So, they failed at the first step, then they failed at the second step.
Why are fans so keen to sign losers ?
It's the same when teams get relegated, a lot of fans start screaming, "sign him, sign him", for f ucks sake the fella just got relegated.
Like when we signed Marshall and Hudson.
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binman
Would be a very good signing
Neil is going to set us up as hard to beat next year with a defence that will sit deep to try and stop the flair players of teams (and they all have them in PL) a midfield of workaholics to close down space (Ralls is so important next season) and pace up front.
Set plays will be vital
Snodgrass will be utterly vital to this plan
I don't doubt this story for a minute - I believe Neil knows what he's doing and Snodgrass is a archetypal Warnock signing. He's even said so about his time at Leeds.
He didn't play well in the P/O final but he was more responsible for getting them there than that show pony Grealish
THIS
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Croesy Blue
Getting 14 assists is amazing, the fact villa didn’t have enough goals to get them over the line shouldn’t be on one player. Grealish is being looked at by Newcastle and Everton should they not sign him because villa didn’t go up?
It’s one of the stupidest lines of reasoning I’ve ever seen. Athleticism didn’t win anything this season does that mean teams shouldn’t sign Griezmann? Did we sign a loser when we signed Marshall from relegated Norwich?
They did win the europa league
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Igovernor
Interesting point on Snodgrass
Slaven Bilic was manager and was farmed out on loan for the next season, but not before there was the venting of a lot of bad blood both ways on behalf of the Hammers' hierarchy and the player himself, ultimately ending in a situation where a return to West Ham United was all but impossible.
Seems they do want rid of no matter what the new manager wants
Snodgrass turned up and claims Bilic didn't know where he played. He was signed to placate the fans, on the cheap, after losing Payet. Failing out with Brady, Sullivan and Gold is understandable as well.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/...t-ham-11077724
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Igovernor
Like we signed marshal from relegated Norwich ( I think it was Norwich) :hehe:
Mark Hudson had been relegated from the Championship with Charlton when we signed him.
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Croesy Blue
Getting 14 assists is amazing, the fact villa didn’t have enough goals to get them over the line shouldn’t be on one player. Grealish is being looked at by Newcastle and Everton should they not sign him because villa didn’t go up?
It’s one of the stupidest lines of reasoning I’ve ever seen. Athleticism didn’t win anything this season does that mean teams shouldn’t sign Griezmann? Did we sign a loser when we signed Marshall from relegated Norwich?
Oh look, we all make a mistake now and then :hehe:
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thehumblegringo
I'm not sure I've ever read such a flawed argument in my life.
It's not written in stone, but why oh why are fans keen to sign relegated players. Not all are bad, BUT they got relegated for a reason, did they not.
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Pedro de la Rosa
Snodgrass has got 3 promotions, and has played for 3/4 seasons in the top flight, and done pretty well. Especially for Hull and Norwich. He's not my first choice but I don't know who you want us to sign. If we can't sign the best Championship players, or the worst Premier League players, we need starting Prem players that haven't gone down and they cost serious money.
He's also frigging 30 and getting slower, plus the cheat dives and I hate cheats.
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Croesy Blue
Autocorrect has ruined my athleitco point *♂️
Na, I reckon it made it. :hehe:
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lardy
David Marshall.
Exception to the rule and I will admit there are some true finds out there, but not Snotgrass
Didn't Scott Parker get relegated and win footballer of the year?
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emjayblue
We best not bid for Fabianskiyes, the Ayew brothersNO, MawsonNO, Joe AllenYES, ButlandLiverpool, FosterNa, Livermoreperhaps et al then, Bluetit will have a fit!!
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ken smith
Like when we signed Marshall and Hudson.
See exceptions to the rule
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SABlue
THIS
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Your point was don’t sign him because he’s a loser who finished 4th, no one would have said anything if you said he’s too old or too slow but your point about not signing him because Villa finished 4th is ridiculous.
It’s like saying no one should sign any Liverpool or spurs players because they’re losers.
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Croesy Blue
Your point was don’t sign him because he’s a loser who finished 4th, no one would have said anything if you said he’s too old or too slow but your point about not signing him because Villa finished 4th is ridiculous.
It’s like saying no one should sign any Liverpool or spurs players because they’re losers.
Na, I don't wanna sign him because he cheats and I don't like cheats. + he's shite, is what I said.
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Originally Posted by
BLUETIT
So, they failed at the first step, then they failed at the second step.
Why are fans so keen to sign losers ?
It's the same when teams get relegated, a lot of fans start screaming, "sign him, sign him", for f ucks sake the fella just got relegated.
Nope you said that.
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jamieccfc
Would be an instant fans favourite, does the things fans love and does the things opposition fans hate
Yep. Always hated him, especially when he's played against us.
Having said that, if he's wearing a bluebirds shirt he'll have my support.
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BLUETIT
It's not written in stone, but why oh why are fans keen to sign relegated players. Not all are bad, BUT they got relegated for a reason, did they not.
Clubs get relegated for a variety of reasons and I'd say that quality of players is, more often than not, not the reason.
I look at last season's premier league and would say that the best players in the teams 14th, 15th and 16th are worse than the best players from 18th, 19th or 20th.
Generally players are much of a muchness in the bottom half. What makes the difference is the marginal gains and that's not player ability.
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Cyclops
Until the last season always thought he was class. But when I saw him for Villa, he failed to impress.
Now this might be down to being at odds with managers and could be corrected by his old mukka, Warlock. On the other hand, at his age, he 's certainly past his best.
I'd take him, provided the fee is low and his wages are not excessive. If this is not the case, drop it.
I'm sure he'll put a spell on him.
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Lawnmower
Great signing if true.
Makes things happen
Good work rate
Critically he is a threat at set pieces- we will need that next season.
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BLUETIT
I can't be arsed looking, but how many assists did he have for Cilla last season, as it didn't HAPPEN for them !!!
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BLUETIT
Take it that's assists ?
Still didn't help Cilla, did it. ?
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Croesy Blue
Nope you said that.
I got bored with just saying he was shite and a cheat, so I expanded a little :hehe:
http://www.ccmb.co.uk/showthread.php...nodgrass/page2
I said this on 2nd June 2018 and I stick by it, the fella is a cheat and shite POST 32
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Why’ve you left out the reply where someone posted that he got loads of assists and helped Villa to a playoff final? :hehe:
Then you went on your weird relegated players and failure rant. Fair enough if you don’t think he’s good enough but being on the losing side in a playoff final would be a weird reason not to sign him.
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lardy
Clubs get relegated for a variety of reasons and I'd say that quality of players is, more often than not, not the reason.
I look at last season's premier league and would say that the best players in the teams 14th, 15th and 16th are worse than the best players from 18th, 19th or 20th.
Generally players are much of a muchness in the bottom half. What makes the difference is the marginal gains and that's not player ability.
Exactly players like Pickford got relegated in a terrible Sunderland team but then moved for 30 million and is England’s number 1. Similar will happen with Butland too.
There are about 10 players at Stoke and West Brom who’d do a job for us too.