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Re: Boris Party gate.....he's as bent as a 7 pound note
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Originally Posted by
North Cardiff Blue
Agreed he was hopeless, it's much better now he's gone.
Is it?
The guy currently in charge knew what the covid rules were at the time and also broke them. Only difference is I guess is that he didn't stand at the despatch box and knowingly lie about it.
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Re: Boris Party gate.....he's as bent as a 7 pound note
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Originally Posted by
The Bloop
Is it?
The guy currently in charge knew what the covid rules were at the time and also broke them. Only difference is I guess is that he didn't stand at the despatch box and knowingly lie about it.
They all broke it, it's just the top table came under greater scrutiny, they made the rules they were there to be shot at, and they had that slimy Dominic Cummings taking photos and making notes, once Boris sacked him that was the end, they should have gone together and saved us a load of hassle.
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Re: Boris Party gate.....he's as bent as a 7 pound note
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Originally Posted by
WJ99mobile
As odious as I find this situation i'd still vote for the party that directly benefits me more.
Finally labour are starting to move more and more to the middle but it was a case of holding your nose whilst voting for Tories as Labour were too busy dealing with social politics.
Boris is done for now. May as well just move on as we're infighting for nothing.
Then that's where I disagree with you. I vote for the party which has the best principles and which benefits the most people. I'm prepared to miss out if it's for the greater good.
Johnson is only temporarily scuttled. The fear is if the Tories lose the next election he could be back fronting an even more right wing pack of malcontents. We should be ever concerned and vigilant of this dangerous liar.
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Re: Boris Party gate.....he's as bent as a 7 pound note
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Originally Posted by
The Bloop
Is it?
The guy currently in charge knew what the covid rules were at the time and also broke them. Only difference is I guess is that he didn't stand at the despatch box and knowingly lie about it.
the lying about it is far worse than the rule breaking for me.
if you can't believe what the prime minister is saying then the whole system just doesn't work
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Re: Boris Party gate.....he's as bent as a 7 pound note
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Originally Posted by
Dorcus
Then that's where I disagree with you. I vote for the party which has the best principles and which benefits the most people. I'm prepared to miss out if it's for the greater good.
Johnson is only temporarily scuttled. The fear is if the Tories lose the next election he could be back fronting an even more right wing pack of malcontents. We should be ever concerned and vigilant of this dangerous liar.
Nonsense you vote for what benefits you or your family the most like everyone else.
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Re: Boris Party gate.....he's as bent as a 7 pound note
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Originally Posted by
North Cardiff Blue
Nonsense you vote for what benefits you or your family the most like everyone else.
Rubbish! Not everyone is as selfish and venal as you and thank goodness for that.
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Re: Boris Party gate.....he's as bent as a 7 pound note
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Originally Posted by
North Cardiff Blue
Nonsense you vote for what benefits you or your family the most like everyone else.
might be difficult for a rampant Tory to understand, but not everyone acts purely on self interest.
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Re: Boris Party gate.....he's as bent as a 7 pound note
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Originally Posted by
North Cardiff Blue
Old news not still on about that are we, it's been done to death he's gone, Rishi is quietly getting on doing a much better job, without all the headlines.
Boris is old news move on!
More than half the UK population broke one rule or another, they were pathetic anyway.
‘Boris is old news, move on’
Haven’t had the radio on or read the news today then.
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Re: Boris Party gate.....he's as bent as a 7 pound note
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Originally Posted by
Dorcus
Rubbish! Not everyone is as selfish and venal as you and thank goodness for that.
Prove it?
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Re: Boris Party gate.....he's as bent as a 7 pound note
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Originally Posted by
splott parker
‘Boris is old news, move on’
Haven’t had the radio on or read the news today then.
No avoiding it for a month :thumbup:
Thank God it sounds like last year's news is being rehashed, oh did Boris eat and tell a porky pie?
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Re: Boris Party gate.....he's as bent as a 7 pound note
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Originally Posted by
North Cardiff Blue
Prove it?
How?
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Re: Boris Party gate.....he's as bent as a 7 pound note
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Originally Posted by
North Cardiff Blue
No avoiding it for a month :thumbup:
Thank God it sounds like last year's news is being rehashed, oh did Boris eat and tell a porky pie?
It proves Ostriches vote for the Tory Party 😂
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Re: Boris Party gate.....he's as bent as a 7 pound note
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Originally Posted by
North Cardiff Blue
The rules were stupid, you broke them for a good reason, I don't blame you, common sense had to prevail.
The rules were set over harsh to stop people having full on parties, with drugs, getting pissed, getting up to all sorts, everyone knew there would be the odd rule broken, five-mile restriction in Wales as the worst of the lot, most people sensibly completely ignored it.
It's the same as 20mph only about 5% of people do it when not going through a speed camera.
You almost hit the car in front to go through, then everyone accelerates away to the next one.
Beer Korma Starmer did the same, no one really cares, they were work do's where wine or beer was added, move on, that's why I don't watch the news anymore.
Loads of Boris supporters are coming up with the same argument. Calling those that judge bent and the system broke is the classic Trumpian defence. The commons vote on this will be interesting and will starkly illustrate the huge rents within the Tory party as the sizable Boris loving minority will vote in his favour.How can such a politically divided party effectively run this country.
When you or I get caught speeding we pay the fine and move on.Unfortunatly when those that make the rules are caught they will be punished even more. This argument is a very poor defence.I hope it's the beginning of the end of populist politics and I've a sneaking feeling most Tory MP's are quietly glad too.
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Re: Boris Party gate.....he's as bent as a 7 pound note
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Originally Posted by
sneggyblubird
Loads of Boris supporters are coming up with the same argument. Calling those that judge bent and the system broke is the classic Trumpian defence. The commons vote on this will be interesting and will starkly illustrate the huge rents within the Tory party as the sizable Boris loving minority will vote in his favour.How can such a politically divided party effectively run this country.
When you or I get caught speeding we pay the fine and move on.Unfortunatly when those that make the rules are caught they will be punished even more. This argument is a very poor defence.I hope it's the beginning of the end of populist politics and I've a sneaking feeling most Tory MP's are quietly glad too.
Good post, hear hear.
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Re: Boris Party gate.....he's as bent as a 7 pound note
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Originally Posted by
Dorcus
How?
Some proof that you would be better voting for Conservative financially but chose not to?
It's probably not true, people vote for whats best for them and their families.
You said your mate is skint and works all the hours under the sun and can't make ends meet, yet you made a fortune on Gamestop or something but didn't help him and give it to him?
Why not if your a true socialist?
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Re: Boris Party gate.....he's as bent as a 7 pound note
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Originally Posted by
North Cardiff Blue
Some proof that you would be better voting for Conservative financially but chose not to?
that might be difficult to come by given the way the Tories have been running the economy
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Re: Boris Party gate.....he's as bent as a 7 pound note
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Originally Posted by
North Cardiff Blue
Some proof that you would be better voting for Conservative financially but chose not to?
It's probably not true, people vote for whats best for them and their families.
You said your mate is skint and works all the hours under the sun and can't make ends meet, yet you made a fortune on Gamestop or something but didn't help him and give it to him?
Why not if your a true socialist?
You're
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Re: Boris Party gate.....he's as bent as a 7 pound note
There are those who couldn't visit loved ones in the final months of their life who rightly feel like he should be held to account. Sadly the time lapse has had an effect and I think swathes of the wider public do consider it to be old news. Apparently a recent survey concluded that a quarter of Britons think that the pandemic was a hoax. We live in a world of short memories and the only war that's being won is by culture war conspiracy nuts.
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Re: Boris Party gate.....he's as bent as a 7 pound note
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Originally Posted by
North Cardiff Blue
Some proof that you would be better voting for Conservative financially but chose not to?
It's probably not true, people vote for whats best for them and their families.
You said your mate is skint and works all the hours under the sun and can't make ends meet, yet you made a fortune on Gamestop or something but didn't help him and give it to him?
Why not if your a true socialist?
I don't have a mate who is skint and works all the hours under the sun and I don't even know what GameStop is let alone having made a fortune over it. You must be confusing me with someone else.
However in response to your sentiment the guy wouldn't even need to be a friend for me to help him out.
I'm sure all of us would do the same.
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Re: Boris Party gate.....he's as bent as a 7 pound note
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Originally Posted by
Harry Lime
There are those who couldn't visit loved ones in the final months of their life who rightly feel like he should be held to account. Sadly the time lapse has had an effect and I think swathes of the wider public do consider it to be old news. Apparently a recent survey concluded that a quarter of Britons think that the pandemic was a hoax. We live in a world of short memories and the only war that's being won is by culture war conspiracy nuts.
It was certainly exaggerated to frighten the public into silly rules, they were necessary until the vaccine perhaps, after that they should have been reduced much more quickly, but as you suggest it's easy to say that now in hindsight.
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Re: Boris Party gate.....he's as bent as a 7 pound note
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Originally Posted by
Dorcus
I don't have a mate who is skint and works all the hours under the sun and I don't even know what GameStop is let alone having made a fortune over it. You must be confusing me with someone else.
However in response to your sentiment the guy wouldn't even need to be a friend for me to help him out.
I'm sure all of us would do the same.
Are you sure?
Didn't you say you had a mate that works all the hours under the sun, and you made more money in a short time buying and selling some shares?
You went quiet then because I said how much tax did you pay and what tax and how did you pay it?
Or am mistaken?
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Re: Boris Party gate.....he's as bent as a 7 pound note
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Originally Posted by
North Cardiff Blue
Are you sure?
Didn't you say you had a mate that works all the hours under the sun, and you made more money in a short space of time buying and selling some shares?
No, like I said you must be confusing me with someone else.
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Re: Boris Party gate.....he's as bent as a 7 pound note
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Originally Posted by
North Cardiff Blue
It was certainly exaggerated to frighten the public into silly rules, they were necessary until the vaccine perhaps, after that they should have been reduced much more quickly, but as you suggest it's easy to say that now in hindsight.
It certainly wasn't exaggerated and there were no silly rules. When faced with a life or death crisis unfortunately inconveniences will occur.
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Re: Boris Party gate.....he's as bent as a 7 pound note
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Originally Posted by
Dorcus
No, like I said you must be confusing me with someone else.
OK fair enough :thumbup:
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Re: Boris Party gate.....he's as bent as a 7 pound note
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Dorcus
It certainly wasn't exaggerated and there were no silly rules. When faced with a life or death crisis unfortunately inconveniences will occur.
Matter of opinion.