Re: Corbyn the Cold War spy
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SLUDGE FACTORY
The sun and the mail on a smear campaign against labour ?
Don't be daft !
Anyone would think they are crapping themselves over the popularity of corbyn
Lunacy is doing the same thing and expecting a different result. I can't wait for the next election - just need a few by elections to make the Tories even more of a lame duck and we can then sit back and watch the Rees-Mogg/BJ/Gove dream ticket get annihilated by Jezza. It will be lovely, and a true Socialist Government will be just what this country needs.
Re: Corbyn the Cold War spy
Re: Corbyn the Cold War spy
I have sympathy with some of his ideas, but the man is never a leader in a million years. He is a puppet of the unions who select him, perhaps in the same vein as Cameron was a puppet of his funders. Neither are genuine leaders who will take on vested interests.
There will be confirmation bias from both the Left and Right on this narrative. White van man will down his Fosters at 4pm with a copy of The Sun in his hand, lapping up the story word by word, because he wants to believe it. The bearded teachers and pen-pushers in Localville Council Offices in Ruralshire will be believing today's copy of The Guardian's denials that he has any links with foreign Left wing governments at all. Why? Because they want to believe it. Confirmation Bias party all round.
That said, my view of this spy story is laughable. The Capitalists are seriously concerned with the possibility of Corbyn and Mc Donnell and rightly so. So they dial L for Love and call up Tarquin Fotherington-Smythe and his chums run various copies of Right Wing News and they do a hatchet job on Corbyn. Providing they can have plausible deniability if someone accused them of lies they can hold their nose at the stink they created and point their fingers at this ex-intelligence fall guy. My suspicion is that they probably paid him a couple of Slovakian Kronas and the boy sends them a story that stinks. Happy days for Tarquin Fotherington-Smythe and his ilk. Happy days for Boris Bullshitov or whatever his name is. Both pockets filled. A win-win.
In a few weeks time we will have the same from the Left. Some fruity fella from within Momentum will finally cotton on that Theresa May's husband, who runs a hedge fund which speculates against the British economy, will make a mint from Brexit. Likewise William Rees-Mogg who has serious investments in emerging markets, can make a King's fortune should the UK sign open deals with emerging markets, free from tariffs and European trade barriers. Bearded Fruity Frank in his Momentum office no doubt will down his latest Fair Trade coffee, and make a call to some editor of The Guardian to kick up the stink. That will be all over the press, followed a week later by those irrational and emotive buffoons who are forever crying and shouting while they hammer away on their keyboards at that odious website, The Canary.
It's all a circus. Don't get sucked in, from whichever wing you are. Stay above the smog. Retain your dignity.
Re: Corbyn the Cold War spy
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ninianclark
Bob I dont think anyone has said Corbyn was a "secret agent" that is the Guardian semantics. What is said was that Corbyn, McDonell and Livingston - were all paid fairly large sums of money to help these 'journalists'. Fair enough - but why did they need to to take money from a journalist - was that normal procedure of the day ? - I dont think it was. Especially from "eastern / russian european journalists".
Livingston is just a bumbling alcoholic these days it seems (and still suspended from the labour for his Anti Semitic comments) - lovely chap that he is.
Hey buddy
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To say they are way too far to the left is an understatement ... so not my bag
Which bits of the manifesto were far-left in your opinion? Labour are beyond far left at the minute so it isn't a difficult question for you to answer.
It is starting to feel like you don't think before you come up with your opinion, maybe you just get it from somewhere else :sherlock:
In between thrusts can you answer the question?
Re: Corbyn the Cold War spy
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ninianclark
Bob I dont think anyone has said Corbyn was a "secret agent" that is the Guardian semantics. What is said was that Corbyn, McDonell and Livingston - were all paid fairly large sums of money to help these 'journalists'. Fair enough - but why did they need to to take money from a journalist - was that normal procedure of the day ? - I dont think it was. Especially from "eastern / russian european journalists".
Livingston is just a bumbling alcoholic these days it seems (and still suspended from the labour for his Anti Semitic comments) - lovely chap that he is.
Is there any proof that Corbyn accepted money?
Re: Corbyn the Cold War spy
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Veg1960
Is there any proof that Corbyn accepted money?
I am pretty sure there is proof he was somewhere completely different the day of the 'meeting'.
Re: Corbyn the Cold War spy
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ninianclark
Eric - it may come as a surprise to you - but you dont tell me what to do - #gestapo
I mentioned Lansman - as you seemed to think that because Lansman is Jewish and started "momentum" that ergo Labour doesnt have a problem with anti semitism - I think you will find that Lansman does in fact think Labour has a problem with anti-semites in its party - as he himself has said
Re Policy / Manifesto - I couldnt give a f uck mate and I wont be going to do your research for you either. You should be able to wipe your own bottom by now - do it yourself.
Is this the bit now where you start to mention Grindr and peoples cock size (like you did previously)
You are the one coming out with crap that Labour are far left not Eric so why not attempt to back up what you say with specific policies that suggest Labour are extremists. You can’t because what you said is nonsense.
The ideological idiots are the likes of you fools who blindly adhere to ‘the market’and swear they are always right.
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Eric Cartman
I am pretty sure there is proof he was somewhere completely different the day of the 'meeting'.
It’s a desperate attempt to smear Corbyn again by the gutter right wing press. It will be consumed by their elderly readership who won’t be voting Labour anyway. Anyone with an ounce of intelligence will see this for what it is. Little wonder the printed media is dying on its arse.
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Pearcey3
It’s a desperate attempt to smear Corbyn again by the gutter right wing press. It will be consumed by their elderly readership who won’t be voting Labour anyway. Anyone with an ounce of intelligence will see this for what it is. Little wonder the printed media is dying on its arse.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...byn-spy-claims
Don't know what this does for the forceable assertions made earlier in this thread but it has definitely made a dent in Bradley's bank balance when he repeated some of them on Twitter.
Worth just watching the Andrew Neil filleting of Steven Baker in the embedded video. I am sure he will thank Gavin Williamson for turning him into Neil's punchbag.
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In faintness to Andrew Neil he’s given it to him both barrels there.
As for that stephen Baker, dear lord what a smarmy twat.
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Nick
Why on earth would anyone vote for this idiot who clearly hates this country.
Seen Ben Bradley’s apology Nick?
Nick?
Nick where are you ????
Re: Corbyn the Cold War spy
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cyril evans awaydays
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...byn-spy-claims
Don't know what this does for the forceable assertions made earlier in this thread but it has definitely made a dent in Bradley's bank balance when he repeated some of them on Twitter.
Worth just watching the Andrew Neil filleting of Steven Baker in the embedded video. I am sure he will thank Gavin Williamson for turning him into Neil's punchbag.
Yep saw it and enjoyed it. Williamson should be in the firing line too. Another snake in an abysmal Government
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Hang on... people actually believed this spy bollocks?
Corbyn is a lot of things, but 007 he is not
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Re: Corbyn the Cold War spy
Corbyn's wasn't Russian looking enough, so the BBC photoshopped it :biggrin:
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To be a socialist, do you have to wear a cap, and woudl you be safe to do so and was Sherlock a Marxist ?:sherlock: