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Not surprising given what happened at Elland Road today that City's 2-1 Youth Cup win after extra time over Ipswich at Cardiff City Stadium this afternoon has been overlooked on here it seems, but I feel I must mention it because I'd almost forgotten what it felt like to watch a Cardiff side beat someone in a cup match!
Well done to the Under 18s and they now face a trip to Bournemouth in Round 4.
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Not surprising given what happened at Elland Road today that City's 2-1 Youth Cup win after extra time over Ipswich at Cardiff City Stadium this afternoon has been overlooked on here it seems, but I feel I must mention it because I'd almost forgotten what it felt like to watch a Cardiff side beat someone in a cup match!
Well done to the Under 18s and they now face a trip to Bournemouth in Round 4.
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I think the four minutes between posting times may have had something to do with it! I was thinking exactly the same thing about all of the players going down with cramp - I tend to agree with you, but it certainly helped break the game up a lot at a time when City were defending a lead.
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I think the four minutes between posting times may have had something to do with it! I was thinking exactly the same thing about all of the players going down with cramp - I tend to agree with you, but it certainly helped break the game up a lot at a time when City were defending a lead.
I was being a bit sarcastic, I'm pretty sure the sub and goalie were ok and Kieron Evans seemed to be playing better after his cramp started. It was a little over the top and, obviously, it would've annoyed me if they'd been doing it to us but overall I like to see game management at that level. I know coaches want to get youngsters into good habits but just playing exactly the same way regardless of the scoreline isn't quite sport to me.
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A hard fought 2-1 win for our Academy boys today over Ipswich in the FA Youth Cup.
Isaak Davies was the stand-out for us, a threat all game, so combative too. He was involved in both our goals, a nice finish for the first and a great bit of play up the right to set up the winner for James Crole.
The highlights of the cup win are on Club TV if anyone's interested.
https://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/video/player/0_csy9m1wa
No point in going over the top about Isaak Davies at this stage but there are a couple of things worth noting. I saw him playing out on the wing last season and he looked completely lost, I think Saturday was the third time I've seen him there this season and he's been effective each time, on either wing. Sometimes he just uses his pace to go up the touchline but he likes to cut in too, even on the half way line. This can look slightly odd as he's running into the traffic of retreating defenders but he's obviously hoping to either link up with the centre forward or switch play to the other flank then burst forward for the return ball or cross.
The other thing about him, which I hadn't noticed before, is that he seems very comfortable on either foot. The two early shots in Saturday's game see him working himself onto his left but the burst into the box near the end of normal time finishes with an excellent cross to Crole with his right.
I guess it's this unpredictability about his play that leads to the winner. He gets in a classic winger's position but he deals with it better than most natural wingers would in that situation (I could name four off the top of my head). He moves forwards with some step overs and the full back obviously hasn't got a clue where Davies is going, or even where he should be showing him to go. Davies flicks it to the by-line and gets the half a yard he needs to pull back a perfect cross (with his right) for Crole to convert. A terrific bit of play.
Mayembe's magic was missed on Saturday but Davies stepped up to provide the match winning moments in a very encouraging performance from him.
Some reaction from coach and players here.
https://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/news...swich-town-aet
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Loramski
The highlights of the cup win are on Club TV if anyone's interested.
https://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/video/player/0_csy9m1wa
No point in going over the top about Isaak Davies at this stage but there are a couple of things worth noting. I saw him playing out on the wing last season and he looked completely lost, I think Saturday was the third time I've seen him there this season and he's been effective each time, on either wing. Sometimes he just uses his pace to go up the touchline but he likes to cut in too, even on the half way line. This can look slightly odd as he's running into the traffic of retreating defenders but he's obviously hoping to either link up with the centre forward or switch play to the other flank then burst forward for the return ball or cross.
The other thing about him, which I hadn't noticed before, is that he seems very comfortable on either foot. The two early shots in Saturday's game see him working himself onto his left but the burst into the box near the end of normal time finishes with an excellent cross to Crole with his right.
I guess it's this unpredictability about his play that leads to the winner. He gets in a classic winger's position but he deals with it better than most natural wingers would in that situation (I could name four off the top of my head). He moves forwards with some step overs and the full back obviously hasn't got a clue where Davies is going, or even where he should be showing him to go. Davies flicks it to the by-line and gets the half a yard he needs to pull back a perfect cross (with his right) for Crole to convert. A terrific bit of play.
Mayembe's magic was missed on Saturday but Davies stepped up to provide the match winning moments in a very encouraging performance from him.
Some reaction from coach and players here.
https://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/news...swich-town-aet
Thanks for that, good analysis.
The Under 18s are in action tomorrow morning against Palace at Leckwith, kick off 11 o clock;-
https://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/news...crystal-palace
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The Under 18s take on top of the table Millwall at Leckwith today, kick off midday.
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The Under 18s take on top of the table Millwall at Leckwith today, kick off midday.
A 3-2 loss I see, good that Mayembe is back though. If we can beat Bournemouth on Tuesday then we'll play Millwall at home again in the next round of the FA Youth Cup.
Where did Sang play on Monday, where do you think his best position is? The Carlisle cup-tie was frustrating for me. With Sang on the bench I was intending to talk quite loudly about him to my sons so that everyone nearby would be impressed by my knowledge. I realised that I haven't actually seen him play yet but that didn't bother me, I was just going to repeat all the things you'd written about him, it would have the same effect. Then I noticed you were sitting behind me and I thought better of it.
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A 3-2 loss I see, good that Mayembe is back though. If we can beat Bournemouth on Tuesday then we'll play Millwall at home again in the next round of the FA Youth Cup.
Where did Sang play on Monday, where do you think his best position is? The Carlisle cup-tie was frustrating for me. With Sang on the bench I was intending to talk quite loudly about him to my sons so that everyone nearby would be impressed by my knowledge. I realised that I haven't actually seen him play yet but that didn't bother me, I was just going to repeat all the things you'd written about him, it would have the same effect. Then I noticed you were sitting behind me and I thought better of it.
Were you? I must have been too engrossed in the game to have noticed. Sang was the one who got forward more in a central l midfield pairing with Sam Bowen on Monday, but I'm still not sure of his best position because I've seen him play in a deeper central role as well as all along the left hand side of the pitch. He looks an accomplished footballer, but I was a little surprised to see him selected in the first team squad - although I would say that he has been more impressive than some of the other older Under 23 team players who have been brought in over the past two years or so.
Millwall beat us 3-0 at their place earlier in the season and were worth more than a 3-2 win yesterday. They'd probably be too strong for us if we met them again in the Youth Cup - here are my thoughts on yesterday's match;-
http://mauveandyellowarmy.net/
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Jack Bodenham, Keenan Patten and Sion Spence all played for the Under 23s against Colchester at Leckwith, so presumably their loans have ended? Another player returned from a loan spell, Mark Harris, scored both goals in a 2-1 win.
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Good luck to City's youngsters tonight in their FA Youth Cup tie at Bournemouth;=
https://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/news...s-cardiff-city
If you get to read this Loramski, do you know if City, and Swansea, are in the Welsh Youth Cup this season? They've usually played a couple of rounds by this time in the season, but I've seen nothing this year.
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Paul, what is your view on the progress of some of the players, we have some out on loan but, at the same time, we have the likes of Coxe, Sang and Bowen who either played or were on the bench in the Carlisle cup game. Are those out on loan not as far developed (if that's the right word) as the three in the squad against Carlisle ? I get the impression that most of our loans seem to be to teams in the Cymru Premier, if that is correct do you think that is the right place? You would have thought that League 2 would be a level at which they could gain more relevant experience ( if they are up to it). Also, what about Bolger the great Irish hope ?
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Jack Bodenham, Keenan Patten and Sion Spence all played for the Under 23s against Colchester at Leckwith, so presumably their loans have ended? Another player returned from a loan spell, Mark Harris, scored both goals in a 2-1 win.
Piece on end of Patten and Spence loans:
https://clwbpeldroed.org/2020/01/13/...arry-penybont/
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Paul, what is your view on the progress of some of the players, we have some out on loan but, at the same time, we have the likes of Coxe, Sang and Bowen who either played or were on the bench in the Carlisle cup game. Are those out on loan not as far developed (if that's the right word) as the three in the squad against Carlisle ? I get the impression that most of our loans seem to be to teams in the Cymru Premier, if that is correct do you think that is the right place? You would have thought that League 2 would be a level at which they could gain more relevant experience ( if they are up to it). Also, what about Bolger the great Irish hope ?
Most of the players out on loan to Cymru Premier clubs were in the Youth side last season, so they are first year pros Rob. The standard in that league isn't too bad and I'd prefer them to be playing football against men every week as opposed to turning out for the under 23s. They are all ages 18 and 19 I believe and I don't think it does their development any harm to be playing at that level at that age.
However, you do make some important points, the number of City youngsters that have been loaned out to Football League clubs is very small and I'd say there are three possible reasons for that. First, we ask too much in loan fees, but then that would seem to make my second reason invalid because if it were a deliberate policy to only send our teenagers to Cymru Premier sides, I wouldn't have thought loan fees would amount to much at all - the third reason would be that our young players are too poor for Football League teams to be interested in - I'm sure there'll be those who'll say that this is the reason, but I'm not convinced about that - Wales age group squads generally have lots of City players in them.
Regarding Aaron Bolger, he's not played for the Under 23s for some time - he had a spell out injured earlier in the season and I assume that's the reason for his recent absences as well.
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Thanks Jon, a bit disappointing that Ratcliffe has been on the bench later for Barry and I would have hoped Spence would have scored more goals for them, but that's probably unfair because I have no idea what position he has been playing in for them.
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Good luck to City's youngsters tonight in their FA Youth Cup tie at Bournemouth;=
https://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/news...s-cardiff-city
If you get to read this Loramski, do you know if City, and Swansea, are in the Welsh Youth Cup this season? They've usually played a couple of rounds by this time in the season, but I've seen nothing this year.
Pass. The draw for the quarter finals has been made and neither Swansea or us are in it. I can't find any info as to why not either. Another odd thing is that our Academy appear to have a couple of blank weekends coming up as though they've been set aside for cup ties but we're not in it. No idea what's happened, sorry.
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The Youth Cup game at Bournemouth is being streamed on CardiffCityTV if you fancy watching some 'tippy tappy nonsense'. We've been doing ok but have just gone 1-0 down.
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Inside the last ten minutes, still 1-0 to Bournemouth, but they have had a player sent off. Awful conditions - I hope I'm proved wrong, but City look like they could play until Saturday and not score.
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Inside the last ten minutes, still 1-0 to Bournemouth, but they have had a player sent off. Awful conditions - I hope I'm proved wrong, but City look like they could play until Saturday and not score.
Yes, Isaak Davies had a great chance to chip the keeper but other than that we didn't create the clear cut openings that we probably should've done considering how much possession and control we had, second half in particular.
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The loans of James Waite and Dan Martin from Cardiff City have both been extended at Weston Super Mare.
Manager Scott Bartlett said:
I am delighted obviously and it was always the plan, as long as all parties were happy with progress.
They have settled in very well and we hope to have them now until the end of the season.
What has impressed us the most is their desire to play for Weston and continue to learn.
They have had a new manager to impress at Cardiff and what better way to do it than continue to make an impression out on loan.
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Shame about James Waite, unless they feel, being at Weston would really enhance his chances next year. I've seen him number of times and always been impressed, he's small but very busy and has a great shot on him.
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Couldn't make the under-18s game today, unfortunately. We went 3-0 up on Colchester after 17 minutes, were 4-3 down by half time but came back to win 5-4, Mayembe getting the winner. It didn't quite make the ten goals from the first meeting this season (City won 7-3) but it sounds entertaining enough. Hopefully TOBW was there, should be an interesting match report.
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Couldn't make the under-18s game today, unfortunately. We went 3-0 up on Colchester after 17 minutes, were 4-3 down by half time but came back to win 5-4, Mayembe getting the winner. It didn't quite make the ten goals from the first meeting this season (City won 7-3) but it sounds entertaining enough. Hopefully TOBW was there, should be an interesting match report.
Frayed knot;-
http://mauveandyellowarmy.net/
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We'll have to make do with this report then.
https://viewfromtheninian.com/2020/0...ster-united-4/
I can't think of a 5-4 game that I've watched since the Plymouth cup tie in '86 so it would've been a rare occurrence for me. Maybe I'll be on here tomorrow night bumping this post after a 5-4 win against WBA? Maybe not.
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To follow on from narrow wins for the Academy and first team this week, the under-23s won 3-2 at Palace yesterday having been 2-0 down after an hour and 2-1 down going into the final six minutes. Trystan Jones, Kieron Evans and Sion Spence with the goals.
A report off the Palace site here.
https://www.cpfc.co.uk/news/2020/jan...opment-league/
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To follow on from narrow wins for the Academy and first team this week, the under-23s won 3-2 at Palace yesterday having been 2-0 down after an hour and 2-1 down going into the final six minutes. Trystan Jones, Kieron Evans and Sion Spence with the goals.
A report off the Palace site here.
https://www.cpfc.co.uk/news/2020/jan...opment-league/
Good to see so many Academy products in the team :thumbup:.
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A 3-2 defeat at Bristol City for the Academy today having been 2-1 up with three minutes to go. Ryan Kavanagh with both our goals.
A few changes to the team today. No idea if this means that a couple of the lads will be playing for the under-23s at Millwall on Monday to cover selections to the first team for Tuesday but one notable absentee today was Ntazana Mayembe who, hopefully, will be getting a run out himself on Tuesday. With our three regular wingers all seemingly on the naughty step it would be a good time to impress, if he gets the chance.
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A 3-0 defeat for the under-23s at Millwall today. Report and team here.
https://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/news...0-cardiff-city
Coxe played but Bowen, Sang and Mayembe didn't. Our three loan signings are ineligible for the Reading game tomorrow and Neil Harris has said 'there may be a chance for a few younger lads to be involved' (he's such a tease) so the signs are there that we could be getting another chance to watch some youngsters warming up tomorrow. Let's not get ahead of ourselves and wish for more at this stage, it's the hope that kills you.
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Tonight's under-23 game with Bristol City at the CCS was postponed and will now be played tomorrow at 19.00, unless you're reading this tomorrow in which case yesterday's game was postponed and will now be played tonight. If you're reading this on Wednesday then you've missed it.
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It's live on City tv tonight at -
Cardiffcityfc.co.uk/video/live
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A 2-2 draw for the Academy v second placed Watford today. Lacking a bit of fire power now with Kieron Evans and Ntazana Mayembe playing under-23s and Isaak Davies presumably injured, Ryan Kavanagh pulled out just before kick off today too. 2-0 down early in the second half so it was a creditable result. I only saw the first half, we were a bit loose early on and conceded a poor goal but came back into it and were on top by half time. Ligendza was leading the line manfully, Pinchard sprayed some nice passes around and the full backs were pushing on well. Rubin Colwill and Owen Pritchard got our goals.
I didn't see Neil Harris there today but Steve Morison was making his way in as I left at half time. I was slightly rattled by seeing him stand in a hailstorm on Tuesday night without his hood up and was rather hoping his mum would've been told and had a word with him about it. Obviously not, it was pouring with rain today but he didn't even have a coat on. He's a loose cannon that guy.
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A 2-2 draw for the Academy v second placed Watford today. Lacking a bit of fire power now with Kieron Evans and Ntazana Mayembe playing under-23s and Isaak Davies presumably injured, Ryan Kavanagh pulled out just before kick off today too. 2-0 down early in the second half so it was a creditable result. I only saw the first half, we were a bit loose early on and conceded a poor goal but came back into it and were on top by half time. Ligendza was leading the line manfully, Pinchard sprayed some nice passes around and the full backs were pushing on well. Rubin Colwill and Owen Pritchard got our goals.
I didn't see Neil Harris there today but Steve Morison was making his way in as I left at half time. I was slightly rattled by seeing him stand in a hailstorm on Tuesday night without his hood up and was rather hoping his mum would've been told and had a word with him about it. Obviously not, it was pouring with rain today but he didn't even have a coat on. He's a loose cannon that guy.
I was shocked to learn he made more appearances for Wales than Darcy Blake!
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Dan Martin has gone on loan to Bath City, who are third in the National League South. He was previously on loan at Weston, who play in the league below, so it's a step up for Dan. He set up the second on his debut last night in a 2-0 win at Maidstone and impressed his new manager, who'd been tracking him for a while.
I was going to put up an interview with him from last night that I saw earlier but it seems to have disappeared. Maybe Bath weren't happy he was wearing a City top instead of a Bath one, I've no idea. Wasn't much there anyway, he was saying how he can play left back, left wing back and on the left side of a back three (get him) and how he'd played week in week out this season which has obviously helped his fitness and confidence.
He's still playing four levels below the Championship so there's no point in reading too much into his form this season but I've only seen good things said about him and with some signs here that our full back play might be moving into the 21st century then it could turn out he's in the right place at the right time in the near future.
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2-2 draw for the Academy at Coventry today, Keiron Evans with both the goals.
https://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/news...2-cardiff-city
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Two more goals for James Waite at Weston last night, I make it 11 in his last 13 games for them. Of course I wouldn't expect him to replicate that kind of form at Championship level but he's probably the closest we've got to another Tomlin type player at the club, I'd be disappointed if Harris hasn't at least considered him. There'd be the shock value as much as anything else, imagine if we'd suddenly brought on a technically gifted, inventive player with an eye for goal last night. It would've been the last thing Forest expected.
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The Academy game was called off today but Joel Bagan got his first start for Notts County as they won their FA Trophy quarter-final 5-0. An online player ratings thingy gave him a 7, saying
'Showed why Cardiff rate him as a great prospect as he showed some lovely feet in the attacking areas. Showed maturity on the ball and always looked for the right pass.'
It's not often you see 'Cardiff' and 'showed some lovely feet in the attacking areas' in the same sentence so well done Joel.
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The Academy game was called off today but Joel Bagan got his first start for Notts County as they won their FA Trophy quarter-final 5-0. An online player ratings thingy gave him a 7, saying
'Showed why Cardiff rate him as a great prospect as he showed some lovely feet in the attacking areas. Showed maturity on the ball and always looked for the right pass.'
It's not often you see 'Cardiff' and 'showed some lovely feet in the attacking areas' in the same sentence so well done Joel.
A first league start for Joel yesterday. In at the deep end, Notts County were away to league leaders Barrow. He played at wing back as County went with three at the back. A couple of key incidents went their way, Wayne Rooney's brother missed a first half penalty and then Barrow had a player sent off early in the second. County took advantage and went on to win 2-0.
Bagan seemed to come through it well. I'm not sure who does the ratings after County games, it might be his missus for all I know, but they're impressed. Joel was given a 9 with this very encouraging write-up.
'Defended with maturity given his young years. Had a tough opponent in Josh Kay, but kept him under wraps for large spells in the first half. Such a great prospect. Wonderful performance.'
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Another goal for Isaak Davies today as a young under-23 side went down 2-1 at Charlton.
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Joel Bagan has had his loan at Notts County extended to the end of the season, which is an interesting concept. He played in a 4-0 win over Eastleigh today, receiving a 7 on the player ratings with this summary.
'Another impressive display from the on-loan Cardiff defender. May still be a teenager but his maturity and understanding of the game is evident. Great news that he is here until the end of the season.'