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Re: These new laws that were used to arrest everyone for any Republic protests
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Originally Posted by
logic
I'm saying that there's a good chance credible intelligence was used due to the fact a small minority of protestors were arrested.
The left have continually state the powers are used to suppress protests and that was the intent.
The powers used, as you claim, are nothing more than extensions of current law to cover the changes in protesting tactics and have clearly not been used to suppress lawful protest.
if police across the UK were using these powers, how come so few across the whole of the UK were arrested?
Or perhaps more likely maybe the mistake they made was discussing and agreeing locations and plans with the police.
The police perhaps then used this info to be waiting for them to arrest them and seize the vans with the placards in when they arrived at the agreed location.
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Re: These new laws that were used to arrest everyone for any Republic protests
We really could do with that forelock tugger Emoji - lots of them on here today.
https://twitter.com/richfelgate/stat...471959041?s=20
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Re: These new laws that were used to arrest everyone for any Republic protests
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Originally Posted by
Father Dougal
Or perhaps more likely maybe the mistake they made was discussing and agreeing locations and plans with the police.
The police perhaps then used this info to be waiting for them to arrest them and seize the vans with the placards in when they arrived at the agreed location.
Right, so having done that, they police then decided to just ignore those protestors chanting with placards then, why bother arresting those eh?
Must just have been a London thing go, given protestors around the UK not being arrested.
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Re: These new laws that were used to arrest everyone for any Republic protests
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Originally Posted by
logic
Right, so having done that, they police then decided to just ignore those protestors chanting with placards then, why bother arresting those eh?
Must just have been a London thing go, given protestors around the UK not being arrested.
Ah I see you are moving the debate entirely away from anyone who was arrested or the new laws and the only point you have left is to point out not every single person was arrested yesterday across the UK.
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Re: These new laws that were used to arrest everyone for any Republic protests
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
Yes, a tweet with no context prior to the arrests is of course clear evidence of police evilness.
Still, a "journalist" embedded with Just Stop Oil, making a documentary on them couldn't possibly have reason to allege wrongdoing, eh?
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Re: These new laws that were used to arrest everyone for any Republic protests
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Originally Posted by
Father Dougal
Ah I see you are moving the debate entirely away from anyone who was arrested or the new laws and the only point you have left is to point out not every single person was arrested yesterday across the UK.
No, the point being made was that people were whining whilst contradicting themselves.
"These laws stop peaceful protest!"
Peaceful protests abounded across the Uk, including Westminster.
You conveniently skirting round that because you'd rather pursue a "Tory, police evil!" dogma rather than accepting that maybe the small number of arrests were for good reason.
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Re: These new laws that were used to arrest everyone for any Republic protests
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Originally Posted by
logic
Yes, a tweet with no context prior to the arrests is of course clear evidence of police evilness.
Still, a "journalist" embedded with Just Stop Oil, making a documentary on them couldn't possibly have reason to allege wrongdoing, eh?
Sorry, I’ve decided not to bother with smug multis.
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Re: These new laws that were used to arrest everyone for any Republic protests
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Originally Posted by
logic
No, the point being made was that people were whining whilst contradicting themselves.
"These laws stop peaceful protest!"
Peaceful protests abounded across the Uk, including Westminster.
You conveniently skirting round that because you'd rather pursue a "Tory, police evil!" dogma rather than accepting that maybe the small number of arrests were for good reason.
This is the United Nations commenting on Sunak’s Public Order Act - the one that allowed the police to arrest peaceful protesters (even before they began protesting!).
“Deeply concerning”
“Incompatible… with human rights”
No they ain’t talking about Sudan, Iran, or Russia!
So you claim the United nations motivation for saying this is what? Are they pursuing an anti tory agenda also?
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Re: These new laws that were used to arrest everyone for any Republic protests
Coronation: Met Police express 'regret' over arresting six anti-monarchy protesters
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65527007
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Re: These new laws that were used to arrest everyone for any Republic protests
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Originally Posted by
logic
No, the point being made was that people were whining whilst contradicting themselves.
"These laws stop peaceful protest!"
Peaceful protests abounded across the Uk, including Westminster.
You conveniently skirting round that because you'd rather pursue a "Tory, police evil!" dogma rather than accepting that maybe the small number of arrests were for good reason.
No way were they right.
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Re: These new laws that were used to arrest everyone for any Republic protests
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Originally Posted by
Baloo
Wonder what logic and jameswales will say about what the met now say themselves?!
All very predictable. There will be a review. Will say Lessons learned. Apologies will come. Then they will do it all again.
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Re: These new laws that were used to arrest everyone for any Republic protests
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
Peaceful protest is good, wilful disruption isn't.
Peaceful protest does F*ck All!! The only time Thatcher's govt took notice of a protest was the Poll Tax Uprising. We need to be more like the French when protesting.
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Re: These new laws that were used to arrest everyone for any Republic protests
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Originally Posted by
Mr Soul '68
Peaceful protest does F*ck All!! The only time Thatcher's govt took notice of a protest was the Poll Tax Uprising. We need to be more like the French when protesting.
Every farmer will sht themselves each time they get in their tractors, for fear of arrest.
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Re: These new laws that were used to arrest everyone for any Republic protests
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Originally Posted by
Mr Soul '68
Peaceful protest does F*ck All!! The only time Thatcher's govt took notice of a protest was the Poll Tax Uprising. We need to be more like the French when protesting.
That’s why the French demonstrations are getting little or no coverage here.
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Re: These new laws that were used to arrest everyone for any Republic protests
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Originally Posted by
Mr Soul '68
Peaceful protest does F*ck All!! The only time Thatcher's govt took notice of a protest was the Poll Tax Uprising. We need to be more like the French when protesting.
Lemmings jump off cliffs, they don't don't do uprisings!
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Re: These new laws that were used to arrest everyone for any Republic protests
We’re absolutely useless in this country.... Government...’You all have to work x amount of years more now before you can claim state pension, even though you men were always told it would be aged 65 when you were eligible’.... Us....’Ah well, there you go, never mind’
Government...’You women who worked as well as bringing up families all your life, you know you we told you that your state pension would kick in at 60, well, hard luck, it’s 67 now’..... WASPI women..’We’re not having that, we’re fighting for legitimate back pay’.....Government....’Oh, go away, you silly women’.
A prospective government will eventually give it to them no doubt when they’ve dwindled to a couple of hundred 90 odd year olds.
Our population is weak as f*ck, I envy the bollocks of the French masses.
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Re: These new laws that were used to arrest everyone for any Republic protests
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Originally Posted by
splott parker
We’re absolutely useless in this country.... Government...’You all have to work x amount of years more now before you can claim state pension, even though you men were always told it would be aged 65 when you were eligible’.... Us....’Ah well, there you go, never mind’
Government...’You women who worked as well as bringing up families all your life, you know you we told you that your state pension would kick in at 60, well, hard luck, it’s 67 now’..... WASPI women..’We’re not having that, we’re fighting for legitimate back pay’.....Government....’Oh, go away, you silly women’.
A prospective government will eventually give it to them no doubt when they’ve dwindled to a couple of hundred 90 odd year olds.
Our population is weak as f*ck, I envy the bollocks of the French masses.
Absolutely and they dont take puerile shit like monarchies. Frogs deserve piles of respect.
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Re: These new laws that were used to arrest everyone for any Republic protests
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Originally Posted by
Dorcus
Absolutely and they dont take puerile shit like monarchies. Frogs deserve piles of respect.
Frogs ? Hmmmm
Anyway, the coronation was the first test of the oppressive Public Order Act and the Met Police have messed up that test spectacularly.
These new laws allow those with power to silence those without. Not good
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Re: These new laws that were used to arrest everyone for any Republic protests
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Originally Posted by
TWGL1
Frogs ? Hmmmm
Anyway, the coronation was the first test of the oppressive Public Order Act and the Met Police have messed up that test spectacularly.
These new laws allow those with power to silence those without. Not good
Many laws have been passed that were later recycled. We wouldn't have been locked down if it wasn't for a piece of 2008 legislation passed under Brown.
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Re: These new laws that were used to arrest everyone for any Republic protests
I would be very interested to see if there was any pressure from on high for the police to disrupt the entirely legitimate Republic protest.
Even if they had been "tipped off" that they were going to do something overly disruptive the police would have seen almost immediately that they were only there with pretty innocuous placards - no superglue or handcuffs etc and should have released them on the spot.
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Re: These new laws that were used to arrest everyone for any Republic protests
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
Many laws have been passed that were later recycled. We wouldn't have been locked down if it wasn't for a piece of 2008 legislation passed under Brown.
I think as it was “global” we would have , and because it was global ………I think this chap has a point
https://twitter.com/jude99_/status/1...LhmySD2aRt-GNg
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Re: These new laws that were used to arrest everyone for any Republic protests
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Originally Posted by
logic
"Hmm, that guy is looking a bit shifty with a backpack. No, I cant be suspicious, I'd have to wait for him to explode a bomb".
Plenty of protestors protested with zero problems.
Leaders on one group were nicked. Maybe, just maybe the police had inside intelligence as to what was being planned?
Riddle me this, Mr No, how come the Met released them all with no further action if they had this "intelligence"?
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Re: These new laws that were used to arrest everyone for any Republic protests
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Originally Posted by
TWGL1
All countries pass laws that can be repurposed. Let's see what happens with the WHO pandemic treaty.
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Re: These new laws that were used to arrest everyone for any Republic protests
If you think it won’t be you next, then read this. This arrest at the Coronation is an absolute cracker.
https://twitter.com/steverobson04/st...ZQyp-iO2wYo4Kg
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Re: These new laws that were used to arrest everyone for any Republic protests
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Originally Posted by
ninian opinian
arrested on no evidence and forced to miss a once I a lifetime event that she'd probably spent a fair bit on attending.
would she have grounds for some kind of compensation?