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Re: FT: TUNISIA 1 - 2 ENGLAND. Match thread
The complete 180 from the commentators as soon as England scored is laughable, they've gone from slating the players to saying Kane will win the Golden Boot! They got out of jail there, for all their good football in the opening half an hour that second half was up there with the worst seen at this World Cup
What was that defender doing at the end? I understand you want to play it out at the back, but when you're in the 90th minute clinging onto a 1-1, just clear the ball!
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Re: TUNISIA V ENGLAND. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Organ Morgan.
I don't want to be a parrot but as the penny has yet to drop at your end, I'm grizzling because the line-up is exclusively English... why not include someone with an insight into Tunisian or African football? You're usually very keen on diversity but not this evening.
Warnock is on Tunisian TV as we speak.
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Re: TUNISIA V ENGLAND. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Eric Cartman
Warnock is on Tunisian TV as we speak.
He has a point, it doesn't have to be a Tunisian or even an African, just somebody who's impartial to stop the circle jerk
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Re: FT: TUNISIA 1 - 2 ENGLAND. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
City123
The complete 180 from the commentators as soon as England scored is laughable, they've gone from slating the players to saying Kane will win the Golden Boot! They got out of jail there, for all their good football in the opening half an hour that second half was up there with the worst seen at this World Cup
What was that defender doing at the end? I understand you want to play it out at the back, but when you're in the 90th minute clinging onto a 1-1, just clear the ball!
It is like listening to a couple of louts down the pub. Contradicting themselves at every opportunity.
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Re: FT: TUNISIA 1 - 2 ENGLAND. Match thread
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Re: TUNISIA V ENGLAND. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
thehumblegringo
WTF is the matter with people. The paranoia is ridiculous Iran vs Morocco was a sticky as has every game. The small country syndrome is embarrassing at times.
I was glad to see them go out in the Euros cos we were there but I couldn't give a shit in this tournament.
I agree. No wonder the English take the pizz out of us.
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Re: FT: TUNISIA 1 - 2 ENGLAND. Match thread
I thought England were excellent, press worked really well, should have won 3 or 4 -1.
England were fluid in formation, and completely strangled the game in the second half. I was impressed.
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Re: FT: TUNISIA 1 - 2 ENGLAND. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Eric Cartman
It is like listening to a couple of louts down the pub. Contradicting themselves at every opportunity.
Oh, and if it was Wales and Bale had scored two , would the same victrol would not be the same???
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Re: FT: TUNISIA 1 - 2 ENGLAND. Match thread
Thanks Mike Morris for these stickies its great
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Re: FT: TUNISIA 1 - 2 ENGLAND. Match thread
I can now see why Warnock likes to play the way he does. England were fannying about in MF when the ball needed to get down the wings and in the box. Tunisia could not have coped.
If they had been more direct England would have won in a canter.
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Re: FT: TUNISIA 1 - 2 ENGLAND. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
jeremy corbyn
I can now see why Warnock likes to play the way he does. England were fannying about in MF when the ball needed to get down the wings and in the box. Tunisia could not have coped.
If they had been more direct England would have won in a canter.
I'm not sure, we really struggle against teams who get men behind the ball, remember Preston and Derby games last season.
That was a pretty good performance from England.
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Re: FT: TUNISIA 1 - 2 ENGLAND. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Rjk
I'm not sure, we really struggle against teams who get men behind the ball, remember Preston and Derby games last season.
That was a pretty good performance from England.
I didn't see all the first half when England did look decent, but I did think there was too much backward and sideways passing in the second when a more direct approach against a dodgy looking Tunisian defence may have been better.
They will have to up their game to beat Belgium.
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Re: FT: TUNISIA 1 - 2 ENGLAND. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
jeremy corbyn
I didn't see all the first half when England did look decent, but I did think there was too much backward and sideways passing in the second when a more direct approach against a dodgy looking Tunisian defence may have been better.
They will have to up their game to beat Belgium.
Getting it forward quickly is effective when it gets your attackers in space against a disorganised defence - second half tunisia weren't committing anyone forward so being direct in that situation would have been playing into their hands.
They were a little to slow at passing at times, if they were a bit snappier then they would have probably make more openings in the second half.
Belgium are an excellent team, who will carry a much greater attacking threat, and who have strong dribblers who will be much more difficult to counterpress, will obviously be a much harder game but will be interesting.
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Re: FT: TUNISIA 1 - 2 ENGLAND. Match thread
They should play vardy against Belgium and just try and catch them on the break
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Re: FT: TUNISIA 1 - 2 ENGLAND. Match thread
England made hard work of winning the game,they need to shoot more rather than walk the ball into the net, and need Bale! but loved the colour of their kit!
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Re: FT: TUNISIA 1 - 2 ENGLAND. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
Oh, and if it was Wales and Bale had scored two , would the same victrol would not be the same???
Would Guy Mowbray had gone from slating Declan John to saying Bale would win the Golden Boot? Probably not.
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Re: FT: TUNISIA 1 - 2 ENGLAND. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Rjk
I'm not sure, we really struggle against teams who get men behind the ball, remember Preston and Derby games last season.
That was a pretty good performance from England.
Really? They looked good at the start of the first half but completely faded in the second and got out of jail courtesy of some kamikaze defending from a very disappointing Tunisia side
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Re: FT: TUNISIA 1 - 2 ENGLAND. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
They should play vardy against Belgium and just try and catch them on the break
Yes if Belgium come at them there will be space for England's fast boys, and they have a few , however I suspect England and Belgium will play out a boring European draw, as a result of them both winming their next game.
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Re: FT: TUNISIA 1 - 2 ENGLAND. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
Yes if Belgium come at them there will be space for England's fast boys, and they have a few , however I suspect England and Belgium will play out a boring European draw, as a result of them both winming their next game.
If that's the case England will have to go for goals against Panama as I can see Belgium sticking 2 or 3 on Tunisia
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Re: FT: TUNISIA 1 - 2 ENGLAND. Match thread
I thought England were an interesting brake from the norm of this World Cup so far in terms of they way they started the game and there was a potential there for a good run in the tournament, but I would have thought better sides than Tunisia (who I agree were not as good as they were made out to be) would find ways of making life very tough for a side which, in effect, only has one central midfielder in Henderson.
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Re: FT: TUNISIA 1 - 2 ENGLAND. Match thread
Deserved win and should have had a couple of penalties, does var not look at that and see Kane wrestled to the ground?
Have potential to do well based on all matches I've seen but I'm sure a couple of the better nations can play better than what they've shown so far.
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Re: FT: TUNISIA 1 - 2 ENGLAND. Match thread
Most England fans I've spoken to seem strangely negative about last night. I thought it was a really good performance. Dominated the game, didn't panic and throw on 2 more strikers and start launching hopeful balls into the box. They kept playing and got what they deserved.
If it had finished 3 or 4 nil nobody would have been saying that it had flattered them.
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Re: FT: TUNISIA 1 - 2 ENGLAND. Match thread
I thought they were one of the better sides I've seen, I don't think they'll win it but they played well last night and they have decent options on the bench.
Most of the negative opinions I'v heard have been from people who never watch a game of football until the world cup comes round.
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Re: FT: TUNISIA 1 - 2 ENGLAND. Match thread
I thought England showed potential and were excellent in the first 20 minutes. I don't think it was just a case of Tunisia dropping deep that stopped them being so effective though.
There is a major confidence issue that flows through the England team when they hit a stumbling block. They seem t lack confidence and resilience and it's like they are visualising the Sun and Mail headlines throughout the game.
Some of lack of composure in great positions yesterday has got to be a cause for concern.
I remember when I was a kid in school I used to fear fighting kids who I was expected to beat more the kids who were expected to give me a pasting. Perhaps this will be the case with England and they can take the chains off when they play the likes of Germany, Brazil etc.
I do think there were loads of positives for them though. I thought Southgate got the team and tactics spot on amd it was actually good to see an England team who looked tactically aware amd comfortable on the ball.
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Re: FT: TUNISIA 1 - 2 ENGLAND. Match thread
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
I thought they were one of the better sides I've seen, I don't think they'll win it but they played well last night and they have decent options on the bench.
Most of the negative opinions I'v heard have been from people who never watch a game of football until the world cup comes round.
You've made your point about the negative comments before, we get it and good on you for thinking that way, though how you can make the last point I don't know. Do you know every poster personally?
I see nothing wrong with having a swipe at our arch rivals every four years, especially when we are not involved.
England doing badly means a lot to people who love and watch football, probably as much to those that are English and love the game. For years we have had to suffer condescending comments and biased propaganda on our tv screens.
Regarding their chances, I think they are playing it down, and quite cunningly.
Struggled to break down "lesser opposition" Tunisia as did Germany and Spain, but got 3 points to ease the pressure.
We have seen it before, scrape a few wins and a team will grow in confidence.
I expect them to qualify and progress but that shouldn't stop people looking for negatives, it's the next best thing to Wales qualifying...
Let's have them out ASAP!