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Re: The most spineless PM in living memory?
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Originally Posted by
Optimistic Nick
Word perfect.
He should have resigned. When he didnt, he should have been sacked. And, ideally, punched. There will be tens, hundreds of thousands, if not millions, who will allow themselves a little bit more freedom as a result of this. If he can visit family, why shouldnt we? Because people will die, of course. But that is lost on government.
Boris johnson is a dangerous moron and a coward. He thinks he is some sort of churchill figure but he's actually a sort of delinquent vapid chuckle brother, bouncing between incompetent ****-ups. Govts job for the last few months has been to listen to scientists; understand what they are saying, distill that into clear unambiguous messages; and lead by example. Hes been an absolute ****ing shambles on all fronts. Criminal incompetence.
Whatever credibility and good faith the Government has with a large percentage of the population is evaporating.
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Re: The most spineless PM in living memory?
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Originally Posted by
CCFCC3PO
Whatever credibility and good faith the Government has with a large percentage of the population is evaporating.
Large percentage of the population?
45% voted the Kents in so 55 percent either hated them or couldn't give a fack
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Re: The most spineless PM in living memory?
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insider
Large percentage of the population?
45% voted the Kents in so 55 percent either hated them or couldn't give a fack
exactly insider thats why i,m in favour of proportional representation . it's is the way forward in politics
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Cummings is a shithouse , he has been caught out
He should go and so should schapps and the other idiot tories squirmingly sticking up for him
It's a disgrace
When the dust settles on this virus I hope the Tories are given a savage beating , bunch of chancers
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Re: The most spineless PM in living memory?
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MOZZER2
exactly insider thats why i,m in favour of proportional representation . it's is the way forward in politics
The population were given a vote on that , most people couldn't even be bothered to turn up and it was rejected
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i know sludge but somethings got to change . you can't have governments winning on only 33 per cent of the population surely ?
the last tory government won on that percentage that,s not right
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Re: The most spineless PM in living memory?
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Originally Posted by
Optimistic Nick
He should have resigned. When he didnt, he should have been sacked.
Just read a great line on Facebook. A friend suggested that expecting Boris Johnson to sack Dominic Cummings is the equivalent of expecting Emu to sack Rod Hull.
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Re: The most spineless PM in living memory?
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The Lone Gunman
Just read a great line on Facebook. A friend suggested that expecting Boris Johnson to sack Dominic Cummings is the equivalent of expecting Emu to sack Rod Hull.
Are you suggesting that Cummings has his hand up Johnson's arse?
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Re: The most spineless PM in living memory?
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Eric the Half a Bee
Are you suggesting that Cummings has his hand up Johnson's arse?
Personally, I think Cummings has missed a trick. All he needed to do was say he was visiting his favourite butcher to buy some essential meat and he’d have been fine.
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Re: The most spineless PM in living memory?
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
Personally, I think Cummings has missed a trick. All he needed to do was say he was visiting his favourite butcher to buy some essential meat and he’d have been fine.
:hehe: :hehe:
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Re: The most spineless PM in living memory?
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The Lone Gunman
Personally, I think Cummings has missed a trick. All he needed to do was say he was visiting his favourite butcher to buy some essential meat and he’d have been fine.
I went out and bought some meat and two veg today and stuffed it down my trousers
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Re: The most spineless PM in living memory?
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SLUDGE FACTORY
I went out and bought some meat and two veg today and stuffed it down my trousers
No wonder those runners were trying to get away!
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Re: The most spineless PM in living memory?
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
No wonder those runners were trying to get away!
They were sex people
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Re: The most spineless PM in living memory?
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Originally Posted by
Pearcey3
Keir Starmer is a credible leader. The shadow cabinet is superior to the arrogant, incompetent and in Patel’s case thick front bench.
I agree. Most credible opposition in 10 years. Give Starmer and co a chance and they will hold the Tories properly to account. Which has to be good for our democracy.
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Former Labour leader
I agree. Most credible opposition in 10 years. Give Starmer and co a chance and they will hold the Tories properly to account. Which has to be good for our democracy.
He appears to have something about him, maybe can break the cycle of 40 odd years of Tories hey?
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Former Labour leader
I agree. Most credible opposition in 10 years. Give Starmer and co a chance and they will hold the Tories properly to account. Which has to be good for our democracy.
Starmer is a barrister who has fought numerous legal cases and he seems to be a man of principle
Unlike blair who after a decent start turned out to be a war mongering lunatic
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Johnson will be under immense pressure now, because he simply cannot stand up to Starmers cross questioning in the Commons.
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Re: The most spineless PM in living memory?
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
Personally, I think Cummings has missed a trick. All he needed to do was say he was visiting his favourite butcher to buy some essential meat and he’d have been fine.
Thanks for thinking about me TLG. Funny how things work out.
Now that Garden centres are open I'll be off to Chepstow Garden Centre for a click and collect as they have the climber I want in stock. As it happens the butcher I use in Abergavenny has a branch on the premises, so a bit of shopping there is on the cards. If the weather holds its then over the bridge to W-S-M for sun and sand, but must make sure the meat stays cold so I'll probably use the camper van, with the option of staying over for a night.
Thing is my freezer is low on fish and I normally buy that in bulk at the quay at Brixham, but with the bank holiday he's closed until Wednesday. Im sure I'll work something out.
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William Treseder
Johnson will be under immense pressure now, because he simply cannot stand up to Starmers cross questioning in the Commons.
I doubt that would matter to the majority of the population. In fact, I reckon some of Johnson's most right wing fans would argue that Johnson has Starmer in knots.
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Re: The most spineless PM in living memory?
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Eric the Half a Bee
I doubt that would matter to the majority of the population. In fact, I reckon some of Johnson's most right wing fans would argue that Johnson has Starmer in knots.
He’s got me in knots, his waffling & bumbling has me baffled, doesn’t take much to do that mind but I expect the bloke ruining, erm running, the country to be comprehensible.
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Re: The most spineless PM in living memory?
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Starmer is a barrister who has fought numerous legal cases and he seems to be a man of principle
Unlike blair who after a decent start turned out to be a war mongering lunatic
I'm by and large anti-war, anti-violence, sort things out by peaceful and diplomatic means.
Thatcher got huge support for the Falklands. It's reckoned that it saved her premiership. She also was PM when we went to war in Iraq the first time. I can't remember her being vilified at the time.
Blair did the same as Thatcher and got vilified. I remember the time that Saddam Hussein's statue was toppled. That symbolism was well received in the UK and, from memory, was well celebrated.
It strikes me that it's a bit odd that Thatcher never really suffered the public outrage years later for her wars, yet Blair did. Perhaps I'm missing something. BTW I'm not saying that I agree with Blair's actions but it's arguable that the whole middle eastern spiral started long before he came along.
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Re: The most spineless PM in living memory?
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
I'm by and large anti-war, anti-violence, sort things out by peaceful and diplomatic means.
Thatcher got huge support for the Falklands. It's reckoned that it saved her premiership. She also was PM when we went to war in Iraq the first time. I can't remember her being vilified at the time.
Blair did the same as Thatcher and got vilified. I remember the time that Saddam Hussein's statue was toppled. That symbolism was well received in the UK and, from memory, was well celebrated.
It strikes me that it's a bit odd that Thatcher never really suffered the public outrage years later for her wars, yet Blair did. Perhaps I'm missing something. BTW I'm not saying that I agree with Blair's actions but it's arguable that the whole middle eastern spiral started long before he came along.
Being PM though he had the opportunity to step back away from the shitstorm.
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Re: The most spineless PM in living memory?
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
I doubt that would matter to the majority of the population. In fact, I reckon some of Johnson's most right wing fans would argue that Johnson has Starmer in knots.
True. I also think Johnson will play to the crowd when MPs return in 2 weeks. Starmer is forensic, but Johnson's replies will get the biggest cheers and that's what will be played to the unsuspecting Social Media users who are being targeted without realising it.
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Re: The most spineless PM in living memory?
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
I'm by and large anti-war, anti-violence, sort things out by peaceful and diplomatic means.
Thatcher got huge support for the Falklands. It's reckoned that it saved her premiership. She also was PM when we went to war in Iraq the first time. I can't remember her being vilified at the time.
Blair did the same as Thatcher and got vilified. I remember the time that Saddam Hussein's statue was toppled. That symbolism was well received in the UK and, from memory, was well celebrated.
It strikes me that it's a bit odd that Thatcher never really suffered the public outrage years later for her wars, yet Blair did. Perhaps I'm missing something. BTW I'm not saying that I agree with Blair's actions but it's arguable that the whole middle eastern spiral started long before he came along.
I think Blair's war was founded on a proven lie. Thatcher's wars were the results of an invasion on the Falkland Islands, and later an Iraqi invasion into Kuwait (although I thought that was John Major, but on checking it was one of Maggie's last acts as PM and I remember my dad cynically saying she was only doing it to retain power). Blair's war was based on WMDs that didn't exist. Thatcher's wars were justifiable.
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Re: The most spineless PM in living memory?
It's amazing how well the cabinet are defending Cummings. It's a shame they weren't anywhere near as diligent when defending care homes hey?