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And that's just if they use it as intended, just imagine how easily this can (and will) be abused.
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Wasn't gary glitter the first to be done for doing stuff "in the privacy of his own home ?"
Yeah he was nuge.
Cheers nuge
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Why has anyone think they've got the God damn given right to surf the Web without being looked at.
If you go in a shop and a security guard is looking at you , do you kick off?
****ing morons mun. I've been drinking gin tonight, so don't ****ing start. Nob eds
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Colonel Cærdiffi
Consider a donation to help fight the battle:
https://www.crowdjustice.org/case/snoopers-charter/
Ever googled something personal?
Who you text, email or call. Your social media activity. Which websites you visit.
Who you bank with. Where your kids go to school. Your sexual preferences, health worries, religious and political beliefs.
Since November, the Snoopers’ Charter – the Investigatory Powers Act – has let the Government access all this intimate information, building up an incredibly detailed picture of you, your family and friends, your hobbies and habits – your entire life.
And it won’t just be accessed by the Home Secretary. Dozens of agencies – the Department for Work and Pensions, HMRC and 46 others – can now see sensitive details of your personal life.
Over 200,000 people signed a petition to stop the Snoopers’ Charter, the Government didn’t listen so we’re taking them to court and we need your help.
There’s no opt-out and you don’t need to be suspected of anything. It will just happen all the time, to every one of us.
The Investigatory Powers Act lets Government keep records of and monitor your private emails, texts and phone calls – that’s where you are, who you speak to, what you say – and all without any suspicion of wrongdoing.
It forces internet companies like Sky, BT and TalkTalk to log every website you visit or app you have used, creating a vast database of deeply sensitive and revealing information. At a time when companies and governments are under increasingly frequent attack from hackers, this will create a goldmine for criminals and foreign spies.
You're claiming (or rather the author of the post that you've copied and pasted is claiming) that the government has built up incredibly detailed pictures of each individual and that every government department is having a look.
That is scaremongering. And it's bollocks.
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Eric the Half a Bee
You're claiming (or rather the author of the post that you've copied and pasted is claiming) that the government has built up incredibly detailed pictures of each individual and that every government department is having a look.
That is scaremongering. And it's bollocks.
It's not a post, it's the text from the link I put in the OP.
As for it being "bollocks", what part specifically are you disputing, the bit about our own private data being saved or the bit about the dozens of agencies having access to it?
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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue;4709774[B
]"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."[/B]
Yet the majority of the country seem happy to give up a huge chunk of their freedom for what is essentially no gain.
You may have nothing to hide now but who knows what changes will be made to the law in the next few years.
Those who would give up essential Security and Safety, to maintain the Liberty of those who wish to cause harm deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
Yet the minority of the country seem happy to give up a huge chunk of the whole country's Security and Safety for what is essentially no harm to the average person's Liberty.
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JDerrida
Those who would give up essential Security and Safety, to maintain the Liberty of those who wish to cause harm deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
Yet the minority of the country seem happy to give up a huge chunk of the whole country's Security and Safety for what is essentially no harm to the average person's Liberty.
Bollocks, we aren't giving up any security. Anyone who thinks we are is just buying into the fear mongoring narrative. If there are terrorist who are going to be successful they'll have to be better prepared than using a normal ISP that can be easily traced.
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JDerrida
Those who would give up essential Security and Safety, to maintain the Liberty of those who wish to cause harm deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
Yet the minority of the country seem happy to give up a huge chunk of the whole country's Security and Safety for what is essentially no harm to the average person's Liberty.
What security and safety is being given up? The UK is perfectly safe.
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nugent
Why has anyone think they've got the God damn given right to surf the Web without being looked at.
If you go in a shop and a security guard is looking at you , do you kick off?
****ing morons mun. I've been drinking gin tonight, so don't ****ing start. Nob eds
Go to bed you're thick enough when you haven't had a drink. No I don't kick off about being watched in a private place.
If that security guard was looking through your window while you watched TV would you be pissed off?
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We need supervision tho. For our own good
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nugent
We need supervision tho. For our own good
It's never been so apt to say "speak for yourself" :hehe:
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Originally Posted by
JDerrida
Those who would give up essential Security and Safety, to maintain the Liberty of those who wish to cause harm deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
Yet the minority of the country seem happy to give up a huge chunk of the whole country's Security and Safety for what is essentially no harm to the average person's Liberty.
Aren't we already the most watched citizens in the world with the number of CCTV cameras? If UK liberty and UK security were a weighing scale then the balance already sits comfortably with security.
Capita, though not a government department, raised suspicion over people's benefits simply because they lived above a "WH Smith" which lead to them being stopped. It may be a lack of understanding that introduces suspicion and that can spiral into something much worse for an innocent person.
There is potential that the mountain of data leads to searching for a needle in a haystack and the action that needs to be analysed is lost.
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Croesy Blue
Bollocks, we aren't giving up any security.
Why the aggression? Do you often get aggressive with anyone who has a different opinion to you?
Anyone who thinks we are is just buying into the fear mongoring narrative.
You use an absolute generalisation when stating 'anyone'. You do not know what the majority think exactly or why they think that way.
In fairness, could the same be said about you that you are buying into the opposite narrative.
If there are terrorist who are going to be successful they'll have to be better prepared than using a normal ISP that can be easily traced.
Normal ISP's are the tip of the iceberg. Britain needs to protect itself from those who wish to do us harm.
There are significant numbers who are in that category, along with even greater numbers who will offer them support, security, cover, protection and safety. I want my country to do what is required to protect us from those people.
We all have opinions.
Mine is that I trust my country to protect us, more than relying on the goodwill of those who hate us and wish to do us harm.
What other opinions are there on the protection of our country?
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nugent
We need supervision tho. For our own good
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lardy
It's never been so apt to say "speak for yourself" :hehe:
This ^^ :hehe: wtf is wrong with you nugent? :facepalm:
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