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Re: Historically big clubs
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Originally Posted by
goats
In order to become that big club, we need the plastics, the ones that turn up in the PL, at Wembley etc….5 years of success we might keep them for once, but we never do……
They soon vanish don't they
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Re: Historically big clubs
In 52/53 City had the 8th highest average attendance in the league. With an average above Man Utd, Man City and Villa. Despite finishing mid-table in the top flight.
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Yep they were in the ground averaging circa 55000 the year before they struggled all season and then won the europa league averaging circa 60000 which they still do. Now I’ll leave you with the last word Don’t want to get dragged into another sludge derailment
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Re: Historically big clubs
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Originally Posted by
Packerman
Yep they were in the ground averaging circa 55000 the year before they struggled all season and then won the europa league averaging circa 60000 which they still do. Now I’ll leave you with the last word Don’t want to get dragged into another sludge derailment
They hadn't moved into the ground when I thought a 60000 stadium might be too big for them
Struggling in the Premier league is not struggling is it ?
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Re: Historically big clubs
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Originally Posted by
Baloo
In 52/53 City had the 8th highest average attendance in the league. With an average above Man Utd, Man City and Villa. Despite finishing mid-table in the top flight.
And way above leeds I would imagine ?
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Re: Historically big clubs
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
No I havnt
The fans are great I should know I was there home and away with sometimes 2500
The seventies , eighties , nineties , naughties, sixties , ask your bald shooting mate, the club has never had the support it should have which is the fault of the fans that don't bother not the loyal fans
I know loads of fans who have followed city home and away for decades and still do and often catch up with them
I know who our loyal fans are
No-one is obliged to attend a football match. Your criticism of those who choose not to attend or to attend occasionally is totally futile.
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Re writing history again. They were doing well in the prem when you said what you said. I haven’t got the skill or the inclination to find the post but I’m 100% positive I’m right. Crack on with your denial though.
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Re: Historically big clubs
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Originally Posted by
Taunton Blue Genie
No-one is obliged to attend a football match. Your criticism of those who choose not to attend or to attend occasionally is totally futile.
Of course nobody is obliged to attend a football match
But if someone from Taunton who has no links whatsoever to Manchester or Liverpool and uses their free will to support the big clubs then I reserve the right to comment on it
Wether you approve of that is your free choice
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Re: Historically big clubs
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Originally Posted by
Packerman
Re writing history again. They were doing well in the prem when you said what you said. I haven’t got the skill or the inclination to find the post but I’m 100% positive I’m right. Crack on with your denial though.
Well if you can find the post I am happy to accept I was wrong
But I don't think I was
You crack on
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Re: Historically big clubs
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Well if you can find the post I am happy to accept I was wrong
But I don't think I was
You crack on
found the post 8/8/22. To quote you.” Don’t think West Ham will be getting 60000 crowds for long”. A season and a half later crowds are up 👍
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Re: Historically big clubs
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Originally Posted by
Packerman
found the post 8/8/22. To quote you.” Don’t think West Ham will be getting 60000 crowds for long”. A season and a half later crowds are up 👍
They get 'barely' 50k for most games. The Atmosphere is dreadful. Don't know who they were playing, but last week at home in the PL there couldn't have been 40k there and the place was less than half full at the end.
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Average home crowd this season 62,435. Second best in premier league. Tickets sold as you well know know. Yes atmosphere is hit and miss. Same as most grounds.
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Re: Historically big clubs
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Of course nobody is obliged to attend a football match
But if someone from Taunton who has no links whatsoever to Manchester or Liverpool and uses their free will to support the big clubs then I reserve the right to comment on it
Wether you approve of that is your free choice
It matters not what I approve of, old fruit - and my comment wasn't about those who adopt big teams from afar.
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Re: Historically big clubs
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Originally Posted by
Packerman
found the post 8/8/22. To quote you.” Don’t think West Ham will be getting 60000 crowds for long”. A season and a half later crowds are up 👍
OK packerman I was wrong
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Re: Historically big clubs
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Originally Posted by
Taunton Blue Genie
It matters not what I approve of, old fruit - and my comment wasn't about those who adopt big teams from afar.
I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about now you twisted old fruit
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
OK packerman I was wrong
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Re: Historically big clubs
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Originally Posted by
Baloo
In 52/53 City had the 8th highest average attendance in the league. With an average above Man Utd, Man City and Villa. Despite finishing mid-table in the top flight.
We played man city start of 83 84 season ?
Beat them , bodin scored
About 8500 there at Ninian
Lost up at Maine Road to two late goals after hemmerman scored
25000 if I remember
The theatre that is being played out these days with all the money is a different league but even back then Maine Road was a big old school ground and Man City were a big club
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Re: Historically big clubs
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Originally Posted by
Packerman
👍
Do you think West ham would get full houses if they got relegated and stayed down ? ..which is what I should have said initially and was different to what i did say
United , Liverpool , Spurs , I think yes
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Re: Historically big clubs
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Do you think West ham would get full houses if they got relegated and stayed down ? ..which is what I should have said initially and was different to what i did say
United , Liverpool , Spurs , I think yes
No idea tbh. I’ve lived in Romford and now live in ipswich and the fan base for West Ham is big in both these regions.more so in Romford obviously. Not sure spurs would sell out every week if they were marooned mid table in the championship.for a few seasons. But it’s not gonna happen to either club so we will never know.
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Re: Historically big clubs
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Packerman
No idea tbh. I’ve lived in Romford and now live in ipswich and the fan base for West Ham is big in both these regions.more so in Romford obviously. Not sure spurs would sell out every week if they were marooned mid table in the championship.for a few seasons. But it’s not gonna happen to either club so we will never know.
Well Leeds , Newcastle , Sunderland have had their bad patches so I wouldn't bet on it
West Ham are the most likely of the big London clubs to go down if anyone is ?
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Originally Posted by
A Quiet Monkfish
They get 'barely' 50k for most games. The Atmosphere is dreadful. Don't know who they were playing, but last week at home in the PL there couldn't have been 40k there and the place was less than half full at the end.
To add, there forum[s] are full of comments about the ground and the atmosphere, and talk of a new, purpose built stadium - without a running track. They reckon there were 15,000 empty seats at their last home game v Burnley.
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Re: Historically big clubs
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Originally Posted by
A Quiet Monkfish
To add, there forum[s] are full of comments about the ground and the atmosphere, and talk of a new, purpose built stadium - without a running track. They reckon there were 15,000 empty seats at their last home game v Burnley.
Yes, although the likelihood is that they're paid for seats, so count towards the actual attendance. This is London, you have businesses buying up seats for corporate partners etc, affluent people who can afford to buy an expensive season ticket and use it as and when. Arsenal have some spaces at their ground, as do Man City. It's not uncommon.
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Re: Historically big clubs
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
We played man city start of 83 84 season ?
Beat them , bodin scored
About 8500 there at Ninian
Lost up at Maine Road to two late goals after hemmerman scored
25000 if I remember
The theatre that is being played out these days with all the money is a different league but even back then Maine Road was a big old school ground and Man City were a big club
Man City not the best example….clubs like Sunderland and Newcastle dipped to 15-18k regularly back then…..boro even less sub 10k
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Re: Historically big clubs
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Originally Posted by
goats
Man City not the best example….clubs like Sunderland and Newcastle dipped to 15-18k regularly back then…..boro even less sub 10k
Maybe not , Man City were a well supported big city club long before the money came along
Boro not on the same level as Newcastle, Sunderland