The fake epidemic of fake news

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Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R

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Have you got the John Pilger war on China thing on itv? shocking.

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Has Gluey "triangulated" this to confirm it's veracity? :-)

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Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R

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Have you got the John Pilger war on China thing on itv? shocking.

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I'm taking full credit for this one, Rjk and lardy have accused me of making up stories about China-US relations, so I'm claiming this one as my own :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by TruBlue

Has Gluey "triangulated" this to confirm it's veracity? :-)

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No need mate, I read a report from the president of the CFR three years ago, and when he became a national security adviser to Trump earlier this year, it was obvious where they would be heading if Trump won the presidential election.

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Originally Posted by TruBlue

Has Gluey "triangulated" this to confirm it's veracity? :-)

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What? :hehe:

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Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R

This has to be one of the funniest things I've ever seen, the BBC advising people on how to avoid 'fake news' :hehe:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/38053324

Some of the biggest peddlers of ‘fake news’ and ‘post-truth politics’ out there are saying the same things, here are just a few..

CNN recommended a "triple check before you share" rule, maybe they should take their own advice?
http://money.cnn.com/2016/10/30/medi...inkId=30509412

How To Recognize A Fake News Story
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b058ce7aaba169

Angela Merkel warns against internet trolls and 'fake news' that threaten democracy
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/angela-merk...ocracy-1593148

Fake News May Not Be Protected Speech
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/artic...otected-speech

Don't be fooled by this sudden concern for truth, this is a fake epidemic of fake news, this is an attack on alternative media, google and facebook are already banning 'fake news' web sites from their advertising networks and there are calls for more to be done, you don't have to be a Philadelphia lawyer to work out where this is going..

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It isn't an attack on "alternative" media. It's basic education. Before quoting a source and a story, read it first, and get a few other sources. Simple.

How often do people post links to stories that haven't been read first?

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Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R

I picked those randomly out of the 'fake news' search results, my point is they are all saying the same things, I just selected a few that's all, I've never heard of Al Monitor and I don't use foreignpolicy either.

You must have seen some of my previous posts about the bbc?

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What do you use then?

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Originally Posted by Kris

It isn't an attack on "alternative" media. It's basic education. Before quoting a source and a story, read it first, and get a few other sources. Simple.

How often do people post links to stories that haven't been read first?

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I know all that but that's not really what I'm talking about here.

I use all sorts.

I've noticed a pattern regarding these reports about fake news. There is a disproportionate overuse of the words fake, conspiracy and theory, and many of these articles do not even disclose who the writers are. Also they never attribute quotes to an identifiable person. I'm not sure what the reason for this is, but I'm guessing it is something to do with legal ramifications? Does anybody have any other ideas?

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

I've noticed a pattern regarding these reports about fake news. There is a disproportionate overuse of the words fake, conspiracy and theory, and many of these articles do not even disclose who the writers are. Also they never attribute quotes to an identifiable person. I'm not sure what the reason for this is, but I'm guessing it is something to do with legal ramifications? Does anybody have any other ideas?

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I think the word "fake" is a fairly decent word to describe something fake. Just a hunch though. :sherlock:

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Originally Posted by TruBlue

I think the word "fake" is a fairly decent word to describe something fake. Just a hunch though. :sherlock:

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Fabricated is a good word, the beeb should know that one. :biggrin:

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Originally Posted by TruBlue

I think the word "fake" is a fairly decent word to describe something fake. Just a hunch though. :sherlock:

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I'm a fence-sitter like you, I'm just trying to see things objectively from both sides, but my mind did seem like it was under subliminal attack reading some of that stuff :hehe:

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

I'm a fence-sitter like you, I'm just trying to see things objectively from both sides, but my mind did seem like it was under subliminal attack reading some of that stuff :hehe:

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:hehe: You are kidding right?

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Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R

:hehe: You are kidding right?

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No :hehe: I always sit on the fence until the facts present themselves. So far nobody has made a watertight case one way or the other. So I will remain sitting on the fence :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

No :hehe: I always sit on the fence until the facts present themselves. So far nobody has made a watertight case one way or the other. So I will remain sitting on the fence :thumbup:

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We are going to need a bigger fence. :biggrin:

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Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R

We are going to need a bigger fence. :biggrin:

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preferable barbed wire :xmashehe:

Those damn Russians have been at it again spreading fake stories https://mobile.twitter.com/johnpodes...98457140609024

The way the media have sold this aleppo liberation is pretty odd.

Armageddon type rhetoric.

And the UN "believe" people have died. "We hope it isn't true".

Then the main networks run with it as the syrian government have murdered loads.

Comes across as a concerted effort to write it into the history books as genocide.

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Originally Posted by LordKenwyne

The way the media have sold this aleppo liberation is pretty odd.

Armageddon type rhetoric.

And the UN "believe" people have died. "We hope it isn't true".

Then the main networks run with it as the syrian government have murdered loads.

Comes across as a concerted effort to write it into the history books as genocide.

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Boris has already spilled the beans, it's a proxy war hence all the BS flying around.

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Originally Posted by LordKenwyne

The way the media have sold this aleppo liberation is pretty odd.

Armageddon type rhetoric.

And the UN "believe" people have died. "We hope it isn't true".

Then the main networks run with it as the syrian government have murdered loads.

Comes across as a concerted effort to write it into the history books as genocide.

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The UK media seem reluctant to portray what is happening in Aleppo as a 'liberation'. They also keep on forgetting to mention that the anti-Assad forces in Aleppo are mostly al-Qaeda.

A decent piece by Peter Oborne in this week's Spectator (right of centre) on double standards in western reporting:http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/11/y...-about-aleppo/

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Originally Posted by Gabalphaville

The UK media seem reluctant to portray what is happening in Aleppo as a 'liberation'. They also keep on forgetting to mention that the anti-Assad forces in Aleppo are mostly al-Qaeda.

A decent piece by Peter Oborne in this week's Spectator (right of centre) on double standards in western reporting:http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/11/y...-about-aleppo/

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebE3GJfGhfA

That's an incredibly damning indictment of the west and the lying western media - the BBC and the Guardian called out, too.

Thanks Nelson for posting that video. Interesting that the Canadian journalist highlighted the duplicity of the Guardian. What an absolute disgrace that paper is - I stopped reading it in March 2003, having been a reader for 25 years. Truly evil rag, worse than the Sun - and I say that as a Hillsborough survivor.

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Originally Posted by Gabalphaville

That's an incredibly damning indictment of the west and the lying western media - the BBC and the Guardian called out, too.

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At least they got the story about Kayne West and Donald Trump right :thumbup:

Mark Thompson, the man who covered up the Jimmy Savile scandal at the BBC, and now in charge of the New York Times shares his views on fake news. Some interesting comments follow the article.

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...nalism-digital

As a balance to the above article, some views from the alternative media.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25XFMRr74rA