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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
What about the female players in other countries?
Why haven’t you answered the question?
So you agree the USA women’s team should get equal ( or more!) pay to the men’s team then?
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
Who's talking about them? As long as they're fairly paid and happy that they're fairly paid I don't see a problem.
It's a bit wierd only wanting one team to recieve equal pay. That's not the best way to develop women's football is it.
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
rudy gestede
Why haven’t you answered the question?
So you agree the USA women’s team should get equal ( or more!) pay to the men’s team then?
It's not important in the grand scheme of things (unless you are dating one of them!)
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
It's a bit wierd only wanting one team to recieve equal pay. That's not the best way to develop women's football is it.
It's wanting one team to recieve fair wages based on the income they generate. What's weird about that?
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
It's not important in the grand scheme of things (unless you are dating one of them!)
Why start a thread about and take such a strong counter point for 3 pages it if it isn’t important?
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
It's wanting one team to recieve fair wages based on the income they generate. What's weird about that?
That's why I said they should break-away and run their own affairs, and then they can pay each other what they want.
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
That's why I said they should break-away and run their own affairs, and then they can pay each other what they want.
They can pay each other what they want now.
Don't you think it wouldn't make sense to split away from them now after the most succesful and most watched tournement in the history of the womens' game?
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
rudy gestede
Why start a thread about and take such a strong counter point for 3 pages it if it isn’t important?
So out of all the female players in the world, you only want 23 of them to recieve equal pay? That is a very bizarre viewpoint.
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
They can pay each other what they want now.
Don't you think it wouldn't make sense to split away from them now after the most succesful and most watched tournement in the history of the womens' game?
The world cup is the big money spinner and they lost out on $30m due to being controlled by FIFA.
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
So out of all the female players in the world, you only want 23 of them to recieve equal pay? That is a very bizarre viewpoint.
Where have I said that?
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
The world cup is the big money spinner and they lost out on $30m.
How does that relate to what you're replying to?
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
Men. Women.
Games played 20. 20
Pay per win. $17,625. $1,359
Pay per loss. $5000. 0
Selected for WC. $68,000. $15,000
WC bonus. $9mill. $2mill.
So what USWNT want is equal pay with their male counterparts at World Cups.
I can certainly see their argument based on their their comparative revenues they achieve.
It should NOT be based on results as evidently the USMNT have got a lot of catching up to do compared with other countries.
USWNT have taken a lead role in developing the women's game, hence their dominance.
The crux of the matter, however is the total revenue achieved at each gender's World Cup and relative share from those.
If USWNT want the same pay as their male counterparts, then that needs to come from the revenue achieved at the Women's World Cup. Their arguments will then be with the other Women's federations, as their percentage will be significantly higher than the winner of the men's World Cup.
The sums available to the other women's teams will be less.
Ultimately, USWNT want a bigger slice of a smaller cake.
Development of the women's game is a separate issue and should not cloud a potentially legal issue.
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
JDerrida
So what USWNT want is equal pay with their male counterparts at World Cups.
No. They want equal wages for playing for the national team.
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
No. They want equal wages for playing for the national team.
Don't the men get higher bonuses during qualification because the USSF can recoup a larger sum of money if they qualify for a world cup?
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
Don't the men get higher win bonuses during qualification because the USSF can recoup a larger sum of money if they qualify for a world cup?
Show us where you just googled this mate, ****ing shameless :hehe:
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
rudy gestede
Show us where you just googled this mate, ****ing shameless :hehe:
As mentioned numerous times in this thread the prize pot is approximately 13.3 bigger for the men.
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
JDerrida
So what USWNT want is equal pay with their male counterparts at World Cups.
I can certainly see their argument based on their their comparative revenues they achieve.
It should NOT be based on results as evidently the USMNT have got a lot of catching up to do compared with other countries.
USWNT have taken a lead role in developing the women's game, hence their dominance.
The crux of the matter, however is the total revenue achieved at each gender's World Cup and relative share from those.
If USWNT want the same pay as their male counterparts, then that needs to come from the revenue achieved at the Women's World Cup. Their arguments will then be with the other Women's federations, as their percentage will be significantly higher than the winner of the men's World Cup.
The sums available to the other women's teams will be less.
Ultimately, USWNT want a bigger slice of a smaller cake.
Development of the women's game is a separate issue and should not cloud a potentially legal issue.
You are not allowed to talk sense in this thread :redcard:
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
You are not allowed to talk sense in this thread :redcard:
FIFA don't pay the USWNT players.
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
Pedro de la Rosa
FIFA don't pay the USWNT players.
Who does?
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
JDerrida
Who does?
The national associations/federations.
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
You are not allowed to talk sense in this thread :redcard:
Is that why you've posted non stop nonsense?
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
Pedro de la Rosa
FIFA don't pay the USWNT players.
I can't believe people have been arguing for 4 pages and didn't even realise this. Why take such a strong opinion on something that isn't fully understood?
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
Out of interest, which of us will be affected should these American players earn more money?
I can't understand why some in this thread are so passionate.
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
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Originally Posted by
lardy
Out of interest, which of us will be affected should these American players earn more money?
I can't understand why some in this thread are so passionate.
Someone will be along shortly to shout economics at you.
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Re: #Equal Play Equal Pay
Equal play? Did they play against the men?
In what other industry other than sport do women get paid the same as men when they don't compete with the men?
Does Theresa May preside over the women's parliament?
Is Cressida Dick the Chief of the Metropolitan Policewomen only?
Does J.K.Rowling sell books only to women?
Ridiculous argument.