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Re: Dirty Ched, The Verdict.
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
All he's done is state facts though. Even if Ched is found not guilty nothing he's said is wrong at this point in time.
What area does your friend work in? Lawyer?
Actually I mis-read Goslows post, you are correct he stating facts so apologies to Goslow.
He was a senior police office, including firearms, and led the police force for rape and Sexual Offence Investigation/Prevention, Child Protection, Domestic Violence, Sex Offender risk reduction etc.
He now works on cases such as the Ched Evans case, carrying out investigations into potential miscarriages of justice on behalf of defence teams. Apparently, usual defence investigations only interview the "obvious" witnesses and often don't dig deeper, which results in key evidence not being uncovered. This is often because of the costs involved in carrying out such investigations.
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Re: Dirty Ched, The Verdict.
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Originally Posted by
tommy31
Lets take it to a different example. If I forced you onto a roller coaster that you really, really didnt want to get on, but then enjoy it while you're on it, does that make it ok to force you onto it?
I once forced my son onto a rollercoaster he really didn't want to go on. Should I hand myself in to the authorities now?
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Re: Dirty Ched, The Verdict.
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Originally Posted by
Rjk
I once forced my son onto a rollercoaster he really didn't want to go on. Should I hand myself in to the authorities now?
So have I,the little feker threw up all over me.
Lesson learnt...
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Re: Dirty Ched, The Verdict.
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Originally Posted by
goslow
No matter what the armchair lawyers, ccmb experts and fanbois say Evans was found guilty of rape by a jury who had heard all the evidence,not just cherry picked snippets from the rapists website and apologists.
I wonder how much sympathy John terry or joey barton would get?
Are you saying we shouldn't question the court system?
If so, if everyone thought like you, there would be a lot of innocent people still inside.
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Re: Dirty Ched, The Verdict.
A club would take him if they thought he was good enough to play
Only reason he isn't playing now is the public outcry there was when clubs wanted him
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Re: Dirty Ched, The Verdict.
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Originally Posted by
tigerbaybluebird
He's a rapist
No probably no might be
HE IS
and I've not watch THE VIDEO or been brainwashed by bullshit talk
12 members of the jury found him guilty
He lost his first Appeal
And all of a sudden new evidence has appeared 4 years later
He won't get off IMHO
Guilty as charged.
:sherlock:
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Re: Dirty Ched, The Verdict.
Wow I never expected that. How long until the retrial? I can't put up with another 12 months of this :hehe:
Wonder if he'll get a club for next season now? He'll be due a lot of money in lost earnings.
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Re: Dirty Ched, The Verdict.
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Originally Posted by
Steve R
Unlucky Ched me ol' china.
:sherlock:
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Re: Dirty Ched, The Verdict.
great news for him
I spent ages looking at the case last year and often posted on threads about him, i remember a few on here were just adamant that he was a rapist and that was that
The case was dodgy right from the start
Yes Ched is a wrong un, he actions were wrong, but being a wrong un is not being a rapist
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Re: Dirty Ched, The Verdict.
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Originally Posted by
tigerbaybluebird
He's a rapist
No probably no might be
HE IS
and I've not watch THE VIDEO or been brainwashed by bullshit talk
12 members of the jury found him guilty
He lost his first Appeal
And all of a sudden new evidence has appeared 4 years later
He won't get off IMHO
Guilty as charged.
:sherlock:
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Re: Dirty Ched, The Verdict.
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Originally Posted by
Bobby_The_Bhoy
:sherlock:
I was wrong but reserve judgement untill after his retrial
Untill then he's innocent until proven guilty
Bye
Next
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Re: Dirty Ched, The Verdict.
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Originally Posted by
tigerbaybluebird
I was wrong but reserve judgement untill after his retrial
Untill then he's innocent until proven guilty
Bye
Next
you felt you could condemn him without doing any research on the matter
a good job people are slightly more open minded eh :wave:
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Re: Dirty Ched, The Verdict.
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Originally Posted by
blue matt
great news for him
I spent ages looking at the case last year and often posted on threads about him, i remember a few on here were just adamant that he was a rapist and that was that
The case was dodgy right from the start
Yes Ched is a wrong un, he actions were wrong, but being a wrong un is not being a rapist
Good summary tbf
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Re: Dirty Ched, The Verdict.
Ched is innocent ! He's not a rapist
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Re: Dirty Ched, The Verdict.
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Originally Posted by
blue matt
you felt you could condemn him without doing any research on the matter
a good job people are slightly more open minded eh :wave:
He's still a **** though ain't he
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Re: Dirty Ched, The Verdict.
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Originally Posted by
tigerbaybluebird
He's still a **** though ain't he
But not a rapist it seems.
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Re: Dirty Ched, The Verdict.
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Originally Posted by
tigerbaybluebird
He's still a **** though ain't he
agree'ed. he has no ( or little ) Morals, yet that doesnt make him a rapist
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Re: Dirty Ched, The Verdict.
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Originally Posted by
blue matt
agree'ed. he has no ( or little ) Morals, yet that doesnt make him a rapist
Just searched ccmb and you've used this about half a dozen times. Is this really how you think it is spelled? :hehe:
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Re: Dirty Ched, The Verdict.
This looks like a bit of 'Vetelism' to me, as in "I'm shouting at you so no one looks at what I did (said)" :hehe:
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Re: Dirty Ched, The Verdict.
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Originally Posted by
lardy
Just searched ccmb and you've used this about half a dozen times. Is this really how you think it is spelled? :hehe:
So you have picked me up on the spelling of agreed ( which stems from a old joke ) , but well done anyway
yet you feel Ched " hasn't yet been found innocent " :hehe:
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Originally Posted by
lardy
Anyway, I'll make my point for the last time. He hasn't yet been found innocent; from what the appeal court said, there will be a retrial (although if what others have said is true then there may not be. I don't know).
:hehe::hehe::hehe:
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Re: Dirty Ched, The Verdict.
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Originally Posted by
blue sky
That's not a transcript.
It's a summary of the reasons for the Court of Appeal refusing his first appeal. Their own version is available elsewhere on crimeline.info, I think.
I'd love to see a transcript of the original trial, but for some reason - probably because of the amount of incriminating evidence from his own mouth - the Ched Evans website has never published the one his legal team doubtless have.
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Re: Dirty Ched, The Verdict.
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Originally Posted by
blue matt
BUT
she cannot remember any of it happening, so she cannot remember consenting or not
Quite - she was so drunk, she didn't wake up when she pissed herself later that night. Evans should have known that she was extremely drunk: the only contact he'd had with her outside the room was when he stepped over her, literally falling down drunk, earlier.
It also gives the lie to the idea that she made a complaint to make money. No, she didn't know where her handbag was and thought it had been stolen. In fact, she'd left it in the kebab shop around 3am. Just how drunk does a woman have to be to not know where her handbag is?
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Yes Ched is a wrong un, but how many other blokes would have been tempted to " have a go " with her if she was encouraging it ? ? ?
Where's the evidence that she was encouraging it?
He says she was "repeatedly" "calling out" "**** me harder", but MacDonald doesn't say he heard that before he left the room. Evans' brother and the mate outside trying to film it all didn't give evidence that they could hear that (and they could be heard giggling from inside the room, so would clearly be able to hear someone "calling out" inside it). The night porter who could hear that sex was happening in the room couldn't hear that.
So of the four people in a position to hear all this claimed encouragement, none could. Hmm...
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Re: Dirty Ched, The Verdict.
SuperIan,
6 posts all about Ched in two different threads.
You don't work for the CPS do you?
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Re: Dirty Ched, The Verdict.
Of maybe the north Wales Police??? :shrug:
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Re: Dirty Ched, The Verdict.
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Originally Posted by
My Name is Dave.
SuperIan,
6 posts all about Ched in two different threads.
You don't work for the CPS do you?
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
Of maybe the north Wales Police??? :shrug:
Or the girls family member !?
Only just registered as well (iffy smiley)