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Re: A serious question - is this the best song ever?
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Originally Posted by
Vimana.
'Winner takes it all' is has got to be up there - though not a jolly theme I guess ;)
Did you know that "Winner takes it all" was written in 1977 but it wasn't released as a single until 1983. The reason being they wanted it to be their last single.
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Re: A serious question - is this the best song ever?
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Originally Posted by
The Alien
Did you know that "Winner takes it all" was written in 1977 but it wasn't released as a single until 1983. The reason being they wanted it to be their last single.
It was a hit in 1980 :xmassherlock: ;)
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Re: A serious question - is this the best song ever?
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Originally Posted by
Vimana.
It was a hit in 1980 :xmassherlock: ;)
If memory serves me right it was released in 1980 in limited countries, but it wasn't released as a single in the uk until 1983
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Re: A serious question - is this the best song ever?
Alien, I suspect you meant 'Thank you for the Music' :xmasthumbup:
Grown men , on a football message board.. discussing ABBA :xmashehe:
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Re: A serious question - is this the best song ever?
I did :xmashehe:
Head is fooked today
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Re: A serious question - is this the best song ever?
Very good song, hard to play having just googled the chords.
They wrote some brilliant songs fair play.
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Re: A serious question - is this the best song ever?
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Originally Posted by
lardy
Which structures did ABBA use that weren't being used before?
Who said they were never used before? What ABBA did was fuse rock, pop and dance elements, used globalised lyrics, had hooks all over the place, scaled back the drums and bass, took the production of pop music very seriously, and in the tradition of Swedish music they focussed heavily on the melody. The result was a recipe for chart success that has been copied ever since.
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Re: A serious question - is this the best song ever?
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
Who said they were never used before? What ABBA did was fuse rock, pop and dance elements, used globalised lyrics, had hooks all over the place, scaled back the drums and bass, took the production of pop music very seriously, and in the tradition of Swedish music they focussed heavily on the melody. The result was a recipe for chart success that has been copied ever since.
What elements of rock did they incorporate? Must have been a weak element as they were always very poppy.
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Re: A serious question - is this the best song ever?
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
Who said they were never used before? What ABBA did was fuse rock, pop and dance elements, used globalised lyrics, had hooks all over the place, scaled back the drums and bass, took the production of pop music very seriously, and in the tradition of Swedish music they focussed heavily on the melody. The result was a recipe for chart success that has been copied ever since.
Well you've talked a lot about structures and a blueprint that they put in place - but to me, they didn't do anything particularly original in that department (it's pretty hard to).
But the elements you mention here, that's where the ABBA magic is. Mamma Mia has about half a dozen hooks and the listener is bombarded with them all in the first minute or so.
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Re: A serious question - is this the best song ever?
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Originally Posted by
Taunton Blue Genie
What elements of rock did they incorporate? Must have been a weak element as they were always very poppy.
The dude on the guitar used humbuckers for his riffs. A lot of today's pop music has undertones of 80's metal, even if may not be entirely obvious.
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Re: A serious question - is this the best song ever?
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
The dude on the guitar used humbuckers for his riffs. A lot of today's pop music has undertones of 80's metal, even if may not be entirely obvious.
Bah humbuckers.
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Re: A serious question - is this the best song ever?
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Originally Posted by
lardy
Well you've talked a lot about structures and a blueprint that they put in place - but to me, they didn't do anything particularly original in that department (it's pretty hard to).
But the elements you mention here, that's where the ABBA magic is. Mamma Mia has about half a dozen hooks and the listener is bombarded with them all in the first minute or so.
I've only scratched the surface, people have written dissertations on the subject. The proof of the pudding is in the work of people like Max Martin, who went to the school of ABBA. Obviously people add their own twists, but the number of producers and songwriters influenced by ABBA tells it's own story.
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Re: A serious question - is this the best song ever?
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
I've only scratched the surface, people have written dissertations on the subject. The proof of the pudding is in the work of people like Max Martin, who went to the school of ABBA. Obviously people add their own twists, but the number of producers and songwriters influenced by ABBA tells it's own story.
Interesting stuff.
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Re: A serious question - is this the best song ever?
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Originally Posted by
Taunton Blue Genie
What elements of rock did they incorporate? Must have been a weak element as they were always very poppy.
Does your mother know?
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Re: A serious question - is this the best song ever?
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Originally Posted by
Vimana.
Grown men , on a football message board.. discussing ABBA :xmashehe:
Yeh, we're Cardiff City FFS! :xmashehe:
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Re: A serious question - is this the best song ever?
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Originally Posted by
Taunton Blue Genie
Interesting stuff.
It pains me to say it being a fan of Roxy Music, Bowie, Sex Pistols, Clash, Joy Division, Cure, Smiths, New Order, Pixies, Husker Du, RHCP, Flaming Lips, etc, but I think most people have a secret soft spot for ABBA :hehe:
When I was young, I also listened to the Who, Beach Boys, Kinks, Beatles, Rolling Stones, Hollies and the Small Faces quite a lot.
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Re: A serious question - is this the best song ever?
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Originally Posted by
Mrs Steve R
Does your mother know?
Some nice subtle rock guitar going on here :hehe:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkL7Fkigfn8
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Re: A serious question - is this the best song ever?
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Baloo
Yeh, we're Cardiff City FFS! :xmashehe:
We're Caaaaaaardiff, we're meeeental
and we like Dancing Queen :ayatollah:
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Re: A serious question - is this the best song ever?
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
Some nice subtle rock guitar going on here :hehe:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNmuy-_tH0o
:biggrin:
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Re: A serious question - is this the best song ever?
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Originally Posted by
Mrs Steve R
Does your mother know?
Not sure. I'll organise a seance later this evening.
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Re: A serious question - is this the best song ever?
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Originally Posted by
NYCBlue
This is a rock song
If only Mrs R had called TBG a little Napoleon :xmashehe:
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Re: A serious question - is this the best song ever?
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Originally Posted by
Taunton Blue Genie
Not sure. I'll organise a seance later this evening.
You know what I meant. :biggrin:
A few more of my favs..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CsJCa2TlXU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIueevl71cA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARh6HdZKmKI
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Re: A serious question - is this the best song ever?
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
If only Mrs R had called TBG a little Napoleon :xmashehe:
Not tonight, Mrs R.
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Re: A serious question - is this the best song ever?
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Originally Posted by
CardiffIrish2
Very good song, hard to play having just googled the chords.
They wrote some brilliant songs fair play.
Try these, they are the same as the those played in the video I posted earlier, and not too difficult.
https://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/j/j...te/sos_crd.htm