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Re: Tories making statement at 11.15am. General Election
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Originally Posted by
Pearcey3
Stick a blue rosette on a pig where I live and the Tories would still get in.
I think one got to be PM?
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Re: Tories making statement at 11.15am. Rumours May stepping down
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Originally Posted by
PerryJason
Let's show the English that we as well as Scotland want to be free from them ASAP!! Vote Plaid Cymru, the only Welsh party with Wales top of its agenda.
Bollocks to that!!
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Re: Tories making statement at 11.15am. General Election
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
That applies in other areas to other parties. Take the Thames corridor, they do the same for a blue rosette.
Why should Wales put up with a government it doesn't vote for?
Because it doesn't have independence?, Surely the 1st step in getting rid of London rule would be to vote for a Welsh nationalist party ?.
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Re: Tories making statement at 11.15am. General Election
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Originally Posted by
Dr Lecter
I think one got to be PM?
Too true
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Re: Tories making statement at 11.15am. General Election
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
Yes, here's another opportunity for Wales to have no overall say in the result of a general election.
How much of a say should Wales have?. We are 3 million in a union of over 60.
I am sure the north of england would like the devolved powers we have. They get the rawest deal out of the union according to return per head.
The tide is turning and people are realising labour rule for all eternity really has done very little for south wales. Maybe they will remain in place but at least now they are on their toes.
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Re: Tories making statement at 11.15am. Rumours May stepping down
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Originally Posted by
Dr Lecter
Brilliant.
I've got to put up with some shitty election on my birthday.
On the plus side, Corbyn will be out on his arse on June 9th meaning we may finally get a decent opposition.
We might finally get a decent opposition.
Just sums it up. Such choice. Black or white. Red or Blue. Neither of which will truly represent you.
It's like watching La Liga. About as arbitrary as well.
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Re: Tories making statement at 11.15am. General Election
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Originally Posted by
LordKenwyne
How much of a say should Wales have?. We are 3 million in a union of over 60.
I am sure the north of england would like the devolved powers we have. They get the rawest deal out of the union according to return per head.
The tide is turning and people are realising labour rule for all eternity really has done very little for south wales. Maybe they will remain in place but at least now they are on their toes.
The call for nationalism comes from those with the blood of Owain Glyndwr pumping through their veins. It's just a shame that none of it reaches their brains.
Wales gets the MPs it votes for. The same as every other region in the country. The problem with Wales is that there are too many safe seats. Those that are marginals tend to be between PC and Labour or Lib Dems and Tory. There are very few seats where it is a straight contest between the (current) two major parties.
Plaid got my vote in 2015 because they were coming up with policies that weren't centralised on the ridiculous notion that we as a "nation" can go it alone. Wales has no industry, no service sector, is heavily reliant on jobs created by central/local government and has the one of highest rates of low income earners in the UK. In 2011, the average wage in Wales was below £20,000.
If that were the case then the perceived "higher" earners would be on about £28,000. Plaid would have no option other than to tax people earning that decent (but not fantastic) wage 40% taxes reducing spending parity and crippling businesses.
Perhaps that is why Wales never votes for Nationalism, the electorate are perceived to be "stupid" but maybe they know exactly what is what.
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Re: Tories making statement at 11.15am. General Election
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Originally Posted by
bobh
Bollocks to that!!
Alternative = Boris Johnson, Farage, Brexit, bigotry, international rep for beings (even bigger) kynts etc etc.
You're United Kingdom is a farce. Move on. Move forward. On your own two feet.
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Re: Tories making statement at 11.15am. Rumours May stepping down
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Originally Posted by
PerryJason
Let's show the English that we as well as Scotland want to be free from them ASAP!! Vote Plaid Cymru, the only Welsh party with Wales top of its agenda.
As Plaid only got 12.1% at the last election it doesn't look like the Welsh are keen on independence.
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Re: Tories making statement at 11.15am. Rumours May stepping down
Tories are, for some reason, shitting themselves about the Lib Dems. PMQs was full of weird digs at them about bin collections and fly tipping and nearly every question asked by a Tory was from someone in a marginal Conservative seat.
They definitely see no threat from Labour and probably rightly so.
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Re: Tories making statement at 11.15am. General Election
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Originally Posted by
Pearcey3
Stick a blue rosette on a pig where I live and the Tories would still get in.
Thinly veiled "Tory's f*ck pigs" post IMO :popcorn:
It's such a shame that there are no 'genuine' alternatives
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Re: Tories making statement at 11.15am. General Election
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Originally Posted by
Divine Wright
Alternative = Boris Johnson, Farage, Brexit, bigotry, international rep for beings (even bigger) kynts etc etc.
You're United Kingdom is a farce. Move on. Move forward. On your own two feet.
You are United Kingdom :sherlock: :popcorn:
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Re: Tories making statement at 11.15am. General Election
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Originally Posted by
Pearcey3
Stick a blue rosette on a pig where I live and the Tories would still get in.
In the valleys labour wouldn't even need to put anyone up for election.
Just plonk an empty chair at the local hustings and people would side with it.
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Re: Tories making statement at 11.15am. Rumours May stepping down
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Originally Posted by
Eric Cartman
Tories are, for some reason, shitting themselves about the Lib Dems..
Because the Lib Dems have said their election campaign would be built on stopping Brexit. There's potentially 48%+ of the electorate up for grabs....
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Re: Tories making statement at 11.15am. Rumours May stepping down
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itkman
Because the Lib Dems have said their election campaign would be built on stopping Brexit. There's potentially 48%+ of the electorate up for grabs....
Imagine the shitstorm if the Lib Dems won :hehe:
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Re: Tories making statement at 11.15am. Rumours May stepping down
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Originally Posted by
City123
Imagine the shitstorm if the Lib Dems won :hehe:
There couldn't be any complaining, democracy and all that. Shame it won't happen though.
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Re: Tories making statement at 11.15am. Rumours May stepping down
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Originally Posted by
TISS
I'm masking the pain
:tumbleweed: the plot thickens:tumbleweed:
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Re: Tories making statement at 11.15am. General Election
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Originally Posted by
LordKenwyne
In the valleys labour wouldn't even need to put anyone up for election.
Just plonk an empty chair at the local hustings and people would side with it.
:hehe: very true
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Re: Tories making statement at 11.15am. General Election
Let June be the end of May
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Re: Tories making statement at 11.15am. Rumours May stepping down
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Originally Posted by
PerryJason
:tumbleweed: the plot thickens:tumbleweed:
rapier wit and devastating repartee
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Re: Tories making statement at 11.15am. General Election
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Originally Posted by
Pearcey3
Let June be the end of May
Who would you like to see replace her?
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Re: Tories making statement at 11.15am. General Election
[QUOTE=Alfonso Perez;4734848]Who would you like to see replace her?[/QUOTE
A proper socialist Labour Government although Corbyn is not the right man but he is better than that God awful woman
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Re: Tories making statement at 11.15am. General Election
[QUOTE=Pearcey3;4734851]
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Alfonso Perez
Who would you like to see replace her?[/QUOTE
A proper socialist Labour Government although Corbyn is not the right man but he is better than that God awful woman
Corbyn would be a disaster as he has proved time & time again that he is incapable of leading the labour party, never mind the country. If elected he would not even be able to appoint the best cabinet as some of his most talented MP's do not want to work with him which has resulted in 2nd rate politicians like Diane Abbott getting a top job in the shadow cabinet. Notwithstanding the fact that I don't agree with some of May's actions & policies, if I had to choose between her & Corbyn, then it's May every time for me. If the polls are to believed then this election could be a blessing as it could see the end of Corbyn & labour can then elect a decent leader who can take the party forward & be a real opposition to the tories for the next 5 years
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Re: Tories making statement at 11.15am. General Election
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Originally Posted by
Alfonso Perez
Who would you like to see replace her?[/QUOTE
A proper socialist Labour Government although Corbyn is not the right man but he is better than that God awful woman
No he really isn't
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Re: Tories making statement at 11.15am. General Election
[QUOTE=Alfonso Perez;4734855]
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Originally Posted by
Pearcey3
Corbyn would be a disaster as he has proved time & time again that he is incapable of leading the labour party, never mind the country. If elected he would not even be able to appoint the best cabinet as some of his most talented MP's do not want to work with him which has resulted in 2nd rate politicians like Diane Abbott getting a top job in the shadow cabinet. Notwithstanding the fact that I don't agree with some of May's actions & policies, if I had to choose between her & Corbyn, then it's May every time for me. If the polls are to believed then this election could be a blessing as it could see the end of Corbyn & labour can then elect a decent leader who can take the party forward & be a real opposition to the tories for the next 5 years
The problem with that is we will have five more years of seeing the NHS wrecked, state schools starved of funds, more homeless, more targetting of the disabled with further welfare cutbacks etc etc. Is that a country you want to live in?