It’s hasn’t worked opening with spin and needs to end. I hope Ingram doesn’t return next season. He has been very poor value.
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The club seemed a bit to keen to buy into the whole Ingram cult . He was dynamite for us for years in fairness but he doesn't seem the same player now. As an overseas player you need to be performing consistently , he just hasn't done for that for the last 2 years. We are now in a position where we are essentially carrying the position that should be performing best for us.
Not sure if its age catching up or lack of cricket that's done for him. He hasn't got as many t20 gigs as he expected and he seems to be a bit scratchy and looking for form as a result. There have been openings over the last 2/3 years where he could have swallowed his pride a bit maybe, and come to play a block of 4 days for us. I've got a feeling that extra game time would have helped him stay in better nick. It's sad to see someone who was a real star for us become a bit of a liability.
Hopefully he'll explode now, win us 4 out of the next 5 games. Get Glamorgan into 4th place , and make us look daft for doubting him!
Very true, that Is a fair old drop compared to his peak. Mind you, with the starts selman, Lloyd and marnus have been giving us this year. If Ingram had managed to mirror that form this year, 26 at a strike rate of 145 would have been more than enough to add to the team. Does also make me wonder if it may slightly affect our ability to retain Neser in future. I think he's a cracking player and would love to see him and Marnus stay for years. Must rile a player up though, when you know what you can add to a side and you're being benched for someone that's not performing
I can only speak as a Surrey member, but opening with spin over the last year or so has become the fashionable thing to do; we typically open with Jacks at one end, you lot and Prem, Essex had Nijar open with it last week, Leach opened up Wednesday for Somerset.
And most of all, I don't think much of it is very good, you go through the stats of delivery taking wickets in the Blast by spinners and it's mostly absolute filth. Take Chris Green as an example, he's clearly got a way, but its an incredibly negative way of doing it...
Frankly, if you lose to this current Middx team , who were bottom of everything prior to the game, then you really are in trouble.
Good start tonight then 2 wickets in 2 balls.
The second a run out after losing a wicket.
Unforgivable
Is the game at Sophia Gardens on Friday 'behind closed doors'
I can only see tickets on Glammy website for late in July
Can't believe what I'm sat watching. Atrocious bowling by Surrey. Yet 2 men have contrived to block us into oblivion. Root is a joke, and cooke needs to retire
It's a strange old game cricket sometimes. After surreys easy win tonight, the scorecard will show Billy roots innings as a good one. Slightly quicker than Lloyd's.
In reality him and Cooke have lost us the game, turned a 180/190 plus into a 150. Absolutely unforgivable performance from the pair of morons
Brilliant bowling performance by the glammy boys. Don't want to say it and tempt fate, but we may be slight favourites
One run win:ayatollah:
Well that was a fabulous game and fair play to the team they did well to win that. Much better bowling and Root’s big sixes made a lot of difference. Finally another win. Just.
Great finale that and a much needed win.
Good win. Looked like we might of thrown it away in the last two overs but VdG kept his nerve.
Hats off to Lloyd, Carlson and the bowlers. They somehow managed to bail us out of the damage cooke inflicted. The bowling performance from Glamorgan was incredible.
Fair play to Jamieson as well though, showed brilliant character and skill at the end
Well done to the youngsters Sisodiya, Walker and Pearce (especially Walker), ten overs overs between them for fifty three runs I make it - Glamorgan spared one of the umpires (Bainton?) some embarrassment, because Billy Root ran out Ollie Pope when he only had six and he was given not out (apparently there’s a picture which shows that Pope was out).
Feck, missed it!
Great win though.
It was a great last over. I felt a bit sorry for root before that, because he was trying to hit it, but just couldn't pierce the field. Can't get away from the fact his 17 off 22 had nearly sunk us mind. He turned a probable 140 score into 153, but only after him and Cooke had turned 180 plus into 140.
David Harrison to take over coaching duties from Matt Maynard (who'll be involved with the Welsh Fire in the One Hundred) for the one day cup, while Kiran Carlson will captain the team - also talk about getting a top order overseas batsman in.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/57653602
Good step up for Carlson. Would quite like to see Joe Cooke and Selman play every game in the top 3 through the tournament personally. Might not be our optimal 50 over option, but if we want to solve our championship opening woes we could do with the pair of them getting a good run and being allowed to pick up some form.
We were 81 for 1 just 2 balls earlier.
Had we lost another wicket or 2 in the next 5 overs that would have been a disaster.
Find it harsh you are having a go at the joint top scorer who scored at the fastest rate.
So if he had scored 15 runs in 8 balls and got out you would have been happier with that than his 41????
I find the 20 20 form of cricket a bit of a lottery really.
There isn't a lot of time for a batsman to play himself in but as has been said, sometimes you have to look at the overall position before going gung ho.
As I said earlier, I didn't see this match but
that Sophia gardens is a bugger to bat on as the England Sri Lanka games showed last week. As such I wouldn't be too harsh on the batsmen for "steadying the ship" midway through the innings, particularly if the opposition's danger men are bowling.
Anyway, the result is all that matters and you have shirley got to give Root credit for his part in the win.
Of course I wouldn't have been happier with that, in the end 41 worked out well for us. But only because of a brilliant bowling display. Relying on 24 off the last over isn't good innings building, its getting lucky at the end.
In hindsight, Root did do well. Because his lack of scoring early on wasn't due to a lack of trying, he just kept finding fielders. He then had a good combination of skill, frustration and a smidgen of luck that helped him smash 24 off the last over. Cooke on the other hand looked comfortable, but just wouldn't go for it.
25 in 5 overs when 3 wickets down is insanely bad, I find the idea that it was all part of a grand plan that worked a bit strange.
I think you need to take on board the problems a Surrey side with two current test batsmen, a recognised T20 specialist in Evans and the player who put together the most destructive one day innings I've seen in ages in one day cricket in Jacks had in chasing what most thought would be an easy target for a team that should qualify from the group. It looked a decent wicket last night, but the scores suggest that it was another Cardiff pitch where batsmen struggled especially after the new ball lost a bit of its hardness. Everything we've seen this season says that a par score at Cardiff is somewhere around the 150/160 mark and so, although the Glamorgan innings had an uneven look to it, they started and ended very well, certainly better than Surrey, their score was proven to be a competitive one for Sophia Gardens - it's the usual thing, don't judge a wicket or an innings until both sides have batted.
If you look at both innings the middle overs were the lowest scoring for both teams.mainly because the spinners were on and were hard to get away.
It was far easier to score with pace on.
Root seemed to read the situation well and as you say you cant rely on 24 in the last over but it was vital to have a batsman who was set to take advantage of the situation.
If he had gone slow and then got out I would agree with you but I think he played a mature little knock to see us to victory.
good point about the ball after it softens. A stat that i normally find pretty meaningless in t20 games is the 10 over comparison between sides. But on this Cardiff pitch it can be very telling, it's been a far more reliable indicator of winner this season than the in play betting odds or dls par scores.
I always think Jacks is a bit similar to hampshires Darcy Short. He's going to get out for less than 10 a lot. But when he does get a start, the fielding side know they are very likely to cop an absolute pasting off him. Certainly wouldn't want to be a fielder that dropped him early. Pope looked very classy last night, until his brainfade while running. Plays some shots that are very pleasant on the eye
Hamish Rutherford is our overseas man for 50 over cricket, and our last 4 championship games.
Just a shame he's not at the top of the order for our next 2 t20s aswell
Tight game brewing up in the Surrey v Hampshire match. We could do with a right Hampshire win.
Sussex also suffering due to covid, 7 players out evidently. We could be in a decent position at the end of tomorrow night, If Hampshire can beat Surrey tonight, followed by middlesex beating a depleted Sussex and us beating Essex tomorrow.