Be in our position than Brighton's now
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Be in our position than Brighton's now
Nah they are still favs.
Because we have 6 realistic points to play for and they have just 3? Or because they are in freefall? Or because we have Warnock and they have Hughton? Or all of the above?Quote:
Originally Posted by thehumblegringo
I'd rather have the points - Fulham beating Everton bothers me - but I do think there is a very real chance that they have earned their last point this season.
It’s a relegation battle, anything can happen. Both teams will continue to pull off unexpected results
Brighton play Spurs after Spurs play Man City twice, play Wolves also on a losing run, and they have a game in hand. Brighton are still favourites.
There's still a very long way to go and lots can happen along the way.
Brighton went into a home game against an out of form Bournemouth side that had lost eleven out of their last twelve matches and lost 5-0 (they were 2-0 down and doing nothing when the sending off occurred). They then had us (who had lost six out of seven) in another home game knowing that a draw would leave them needing just one point from fifteen to put us in a position where we needed to avoid defeat in either the Liverpool and Man United matches and blew it completely.
Brighton have been in woeful form for months and have lost that confidence they had at the Amex which enabled them to survive pretty comfortably last season, they've not suddenly lost form and I think it's realistic to believe that they aren't going to get many points from here on in. If we can beat Fulham and Palace, they're going to need to get four points from what looks a very tough run in - there's nothing in Brighton's form to say they can do that and so I can see where Gringo is coming from.
Brighton have won just 8pts this year 🤔
I would much rather be in Brighton's position than ours - 2 point lead and an extra game to play - but if it's a comparison of form and morale, then the only answer is CARDIFF!
Put it this way - it seems Brighton fans are in agreement with the OP:
https://www.northstandchat.com/showt...-Points-Needed
As someone who has been quite vocal about Cardiff's lethargy in the FA Cup in the last few seasons both in your blogs and on this MB, how much would you say, if at all, that Brighton's success in the competition has contributed to their huge loss in form and confidence?Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
I see one of them thinks Wolves will be distracted by their Cup Final appearance :biggrin:.Quote:
Originally Posted by Optimistic Nick
On a scale of one to ten, zero.Quote:
Originally Posted by MacAdder
Brighton were 10th at the beginning of December. Over the last 18 games they've won 12 points, ironically as many points as games lost during that period. We've won 20 points over the same period.
They were scoring 1.4 goals a game up to that point. Only Fulham and Huddersfield have scored less goals than them since. Defensively, only Fulham, Huddersfield and Bournemouth have been worse than them since that point. They haven't scored in 5 games.
Wolves is the only game I fear. They've tended to switch off against the lower sides and Brighton are surely due a backlash at some point. Wolves are licking their wounds and, as against Burnley, I wonder how much they'll be up for it.
Yes of all the bloody teams i cant believe they are playing wolves. How many times have they let us down this season?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
Absolutely.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Brighton had a decent Christmas, beating Everton and drawing with Arsenal and at West Ham. Their cup run has papered over some cracks, I think. Aside from a comfortable win in the 3rd round at Bournemouth, they were fortunate to get past West Brom, squeezed past Derby and won on penalties at Millwall. That run actually did little to improve their confidence, they couldn't turn it into a positive.
Wolves hate us. It's a conspiracy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Father Dougal
Thought you might say that, otherwise the content of those pieces would be fanciful.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Personally I think that they looked little more than a poor championship side tonight completely out of ideas.
I do find it hard to believe that you don't think that mental fatigue has any bearing on a team, let alone physical, and playing four or five extra games is in no way a factor.
Of course you are entitled to your opinions, many I agree with. On this occasion however, I don't :thumbup:
Brighton are going to play less games than we've done for all but one of the last thirty odd seasons I make it. There's too much made of how many matches Premier League teams play - we're going to play the least number of games in a season in our history this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by MacAdder
Brighton are away to Wolves this weekend and they’ve been shite against the lesser teams this season.
Not played anywhere near this standard and intensity.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Out of interest then, to what do you attribute Cardiff, right up against it and v. little quality (a given to most on here) making Brighton (far more experienced in the EPL with a brief of just don't lose) look so bad?
I’d say they got 6 to play for. Wolves blow hot and cold.Quote:
Originally Posted by Optimistic Nick
But Brighton look ****ed! I’d defo rather be in our position, they’re displaying relegation form. We just had our best performance, away from home as well.
Wolves have been very sloppy this year in games they are expected to winQuote:
Originally Posted by BlueArmy 86
Yes, this is a worry.Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
But Brighton are a shambles at the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
I said it before Xmas when they were mid table. They will be that one team that slips away and gets sucked into a relegation battle. Cos they’re shit.
This is the biggie. They are dreadful. And I really don't rate the manager.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueArmy 86
They are still favourites to stay up, but from the outside looking in, it reminds me of that season where we failed to qualify for the playoffs when we were almost mathematically certain to make it. After that defeat at Preston [10 years ago tomorrow, by the way] we all knew what was coming, no matter how improbable... Brighton remind me of that, and have done for weeks.
I was thinking the same for some time, but then when they beat Huddersfield and Palace in successive matches I changed my mind and thought they'd be alright. I still did until Saturday, but to lose in that manner to a side as out of form as Bournemouth were had the potential to be devastating for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Optimistic Nick
Your comparison with what happened to us after that 6-0 at Preston is a good one and I firmly believe the opportunity is there for us now because Brighton have a real downward momentum about them - in it's way, losing to us will be more shattering for them than the Bournemouth game was.
Been saying never say never and thinking if that awful game at Preston and the impact it had on us and Preston.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Hopefully the same will happen with us being the beneficiaries this time.
If they couldn't bounce back after the 5-0 defeat against Bournemouth, then they're heads are in totally the wrong at the wrong time.
It seems as though some of their players were arguing amongst each other and Knockaert's rash challenge on Saturday may be a symptom of deep unrest and uncertainty.
We now have to focus on us and take each game as it comes. Focus on each phase of play and how we make sure it benefits us in each small way.
I don’t think we played all that well last night, we still look really ropey at the back and I think Brighton’s poor performance made us look a bit better than we were. Probably the first time this season that the opposition gave the ball away more than us.
We’ll have to play better than we did last night in order to beat Fulham, who have nothing to play for and that often means teams play better, and Palace.
We still have a better run-in than Brighton though staying up is achievable.
I’m not sure they’ll beat wolves but a point is not unrealistic, meaning one more win could be enough for them.
However, I seem to recall our last time in the premier league. On a bank holiday Sunday, when the sun was shining, with a 4pm kick off on TV, and a title chasing team came to Cardiff and lost....
There were loads of people on this board calling for him to be our manager at one time. Persoanlly, I've never seen the attraction.Quote:
Originally Posted by Optimistic Nick
I think Brighton will get a draw at Wolves, but that will be the last point they pick up, we'll need a win and a draw to get over the line.Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
Brighton seem to be wolves bogey team looking at their head to head stats since 1969 they have played each other 31 times, wolves only winning 6 , drawing 10 and losing 15Quote:
Originally Posted by MacAdder
The odds for Brighton to lose their next three matches is only 7/2 on Coral.
I think Wolves will beat Brighton comfortably. I dont think Wolves are great at the moment but Brighton are shot. I fancy us to win either against Palace or Fulham and I'd love it if we could grab a point against Liverpool and Citeh win the league on goal difference.
Brighton are rapidly losing their goal difference too. 10 goals in their last three league matches is very poor.Quote:
Originally Posted by thehumblegringo
I'd love to be proved wrong, but I think that one win or two draws will be enough to keep Brighton up.
We really need Wolves to do us a favour on Saturday.
They're still 12 better than us in gd.Quote:
Originally Posted by B. Oddie
While they could lose heavily in some of their upcoming games, I can't see us keeping many clean sheets either.