Found guilty of contempt of Court.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48887440
Enjoy your Porridge loser 😂
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Found guilty of contempt of Court.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48887440
Enjoy your Porridge loser 😂
The absolute state on the dickheads supporting him....
https://twitter.com/the_hallissey/st...884183042?s=21
If this is a real account I'm quite surprised by this.
https://twitter.com/thekateadie/stat...76315579551749
Asking Trump for asylum in America.
Ironic that he’s appealing to be an immigrant.....
Jailed for nine months;-
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48950672
Good
Maybe his Cheerleaders who can’t see that his actions jeopardised a trial where there were a number of sex offenders subsequently convicted will finally see this charlatan for what he is and merely a money grabber.
I doubt it but one can hope.
Whatever happened to his political asylum appeal to Donald Trump?
Maybe previously going to the USA with a fake passport (making him an illegal immigrant) cost him? Maybe his long criminal record?
We saw with Malky and Tan that where there is a divide it's easy to fiercely buddy up to a character who seems to be the opposite of what you're against, no matter what their character is. That's the only thing I can think of with Tommy Robinson and his supporters. Why else would you support someone who offers nothing to make your life better and is only a negative and destructive force?
He won't need asylem, he can just show up. The American socialists have just announced free movement for everybody in the world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnwtXufqr3A
Tommy’s mates going off on one after case.
What a bunch of pathetic *****:
https://twitter.com/mikestuchbery_/s...944180737?s=21
Well that was a bit strange really ,wasn't it, because you've really got to be in a country to ask for political asylum there.
I don't especially want to join in the Tommy Robinson kicking club because I don't know a great deal about him and I'm sure there are two sides to the story. However, I think this was obviously more of a stunt than anything else.
His version of the events leading to the current conviction are certainly not true, but it is nonetheless very politically naive of the establishment to press it home. Similar offences wouldn't normally be pursued and it creates the impression , rightly or wrongly, that he has been persecuted.
An opportunity was missed to sentence him to 'time served' and therefore make it go quietly away rather than create any martyrs .
Again without taking sides, I think Mr Robinson is - not for the first time - being quite a clever politician in all this.
Is he really surprised or very upset about being imprisoned, or is that a price he's willing to pay for the sympathy and political kudos it will certainly yield L
He thinks he's the new Gandhi!
I don't know.
Maybe he's studied the success of people like Gandhi and early Irish Seperatists in gathering popular support through provoking a particular reaction ?
Maybe he's just worked it out for himself , but I'm beginning to think that he's a lot more clever than anyone thought.
He's not a very well educated man, and I'd previously considered him to be a poor advocate for those who's views he articulates, but perhaps I mis underestimated him !
Feel a bit guilty about only calling him a prat earlier in the thread;-
https://twitter.com/camcamdamn/statu...11833091780609
Who does he gain political kudos from? Katie Hopkins? These are not right-wing politicians who ultimately care about the country, these individuals are fanning the flames of disenfranchised, often deprived, areas and making a huge amount of money out of spreading twisted interpretations of events.
I'm not sure I agree with your implication that the deprived and disenfranchised don't care about the country, but these are the people he'd be likely to gain political kudos with, and history tells us that they're the people who often achieve momentous change when they feel sufficiently aggrieved.
I'm not prepared to make any assumptions about the man based upon the constant withering fire of spin against him which I notice, but nor do I know enough about him or his views to support him. What I do know is that if he is widely seen as a victim of a privileged political elite which has already ignored a democratic vote and tried to enforce its will against a democratic outcome, that may lead to trouble .
Well if those who see him as some sort of victim and therefore someone to follow then they need to wake up and see Yaxley Lennon for what he is.
He has a string of previous convictions for offences such as fraud and violence. He jeopardised a court hearing which involved a number of sex offenders despite having previous warnings not to do so.
He’s benefitted immeasurably financially from his actions and has shown no remorse for the stress that the victims of the cases went through on hearing that they may have had to go though another trial after representations from the defence
There is no ‘spin’ against him, these are facts that any cursory search of the internet will provide. He’s merely a self obsessed publicist who should be thankful he got the light sentence he did.
That's a very Wales Bales like final paragraph there I must say.
If you are able to interpret what surge said as implying that "the deprived and disenfranchised don't care about the country", then I feel it's perfectly reasonable to conclude that your use of the word "spin" tells us an awful lot about your real feelings concerning the person who calls himself Tommy Robinson - that's if "the victim of a privileged political elite" was not a big enough hint.
Besides being an apparent victim, it seems that Robinson is very unfortunate in the company he keeps or, perhaps, all of the links below are just fake news?
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/f...le-z6pb87rr2q5
https://lancasteruaf.blogspot.com/20...ithin-edl.html
https://www.hopenothate.org.uk/2012/...aramilitaries/
https://far-rightcriminals.com/tag/archie-sleman/
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8231231.html
https://dorseteye.com/former-edl-mem...ere-was-tommy/
https://www.dorsetecho.co.uk/news/90...-abuse-images/
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news...hison-14289816
https://metro.co.uk/2019/03/04/tommy...e-boy-8817076/
https://far-rightcriminals.com/2016/...h-schoolgirls/
https://www.facebook.com/angrywhitea...5253439765616/
https://www.southwalesguardian.co.uk...year-old-girl/
One other thing, the question in the Referendum was just a straight yes or no one, there was nothing about the kind of Brexit it should be. Therefore, with that in mind, it should be said that we probably could have left the EU on 29 March as planned if the likes of the Brexit ultras in the Conservative Party and the DUP had accepted the negotiated withdrawal agreement - are they the "privileged political elite" you talk of? It's hard to argue that a democratic vote is being ignored when there have been three attempts to pass something that would enable that vote and a negotiated departure is still the policy of the two main parties in Parliament.
I'm afraid my point hasn't been communicated effectively if that's what you think I'm saying. There are right wing politicians I disagree with but I can recognise they ultimately care about the country and just have a different viewpoint on the process for this, I cannot say the same about Tommy Robinson or Katie Hopkins. These two are just business people who are targeting certain areas of the country, the disenfranchised and arears with greater deprivation, to increase their financial means (Tommy Robinson owned a nine-hundred thousand pound mansion!!!)without offering anything real back to their supporters.
Regarding your last sentence, if we collectively drew up characteristics of the political elite then I'd wager those who are telling you the elite are ignoring you would themselves be described by that list. If we start of with owning a house worth 900K for example.....Some of the people telling you the elite are ignoring you also tell you to ignore experts, but considering Boris Johnson's interview with Andrew O'Neil then perhaps this is taking us on a scary path.
Oh NO ! I thought you were the one person here able to see this Wales Bales bollocks for what it is because you were engaging in normal conversation. All I'll say about that is that we might as well conclude that you and I are the same person because we both spoke of Ronnie Bird's hairdressers !
Returning to the subject though, you seem to be taking my comments as supporting Tommy Robinson, even though I did say that I haven't particularly delved into the subject and the most supportive thing I've said is that I'm not going to condemn him on the say so of a media and establishment which I don't any longer trust.
I do repeat though, that he's obviously on the wrong end of a hysteria /spin campaign by various parties , and to that extent at least a fair minded person would have some sympathy with him.
Most importantly , what I was addressing was the likely outcome of these events in terms of Tommy Robinson's standing in the public mind. One thing I am able to say is that he's certainly guilty of contempt , but the general public don't understand the ins and outs of what is a fairly obscure legal area and the remarkably severe sentence, combined with the manner in which the case was conducted is likely to gain him far more political support than he might otherwise have attracted through his policies.
In a nutshell then, they're creating a martyr , and historically , that usually bites them on the arse. My comments, therefore , are about practical political outcomes rather than the merits of anyone's politics.
Now, to touch upon your last bit regarding the post referendum manoeuvrings over Brexit , well I can gather from your comments that we would disagree upon that matter, but I think all the arguments about it have already been done to death so we'll probably just have to agree to disagree on that one. What is certain is that it's divided the nation in a very serious way which doesn't seem capable of resolution by democratic duscussion at this point, and to once again refer to the lessons of history , that's a very very dangerous situation to be in.
Fair comment and well said, but I think our respective concepts of what " the elite" may be are very different indeed.
I don't come from any socialist or fake socialist direction, in fact it's fair to say that I have no allegiances to any party or defined political grouping.
I'm only too pleased to see anyone do well and I certainly don't want a share of anyone else's property. If I can put it in a straightforward way which explains briefly the relevant bit of a very complicated world view on my part, I don't like seeing certain interests tilt the pitch in a way that their own wealth and power is perpetuated at the expense of making it impossible for others to succeed upon their merits, and as a little side benefit prevent others from expressing opinions which are either unpalatable to them or might interfere with their intricate and dishonest schemes to exert illegitimate power and influence.
Maybe we should do a whole thread on the wider issues of this because it's too wide a subject to chuck into this kind of dialogue.
Laughing at all you dickheads having a go at Tommy Robinson. I couldn't give a **** about the man, but at least he has the conviction of his beliefs, unlike the wet ***** on here who post their "DISGUSTED" at such a man behind the safety of their computer. ****ing embarrassing farts