Attachment 3003
Some proper “bewtys” on the streets of London today !
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Attachment 3003
Some proper “bewtys” on the streets of London today !
Why am I not surprised, wonder if Chris Rea will be happy being dragged into it though?
Oh for fecks sake
Ha ha..... And I thought I was so smart posting a picture!!:hehe::facepalm:Quote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
I remember the day of the referendum, I had gone down my mothers for supper. We had both voted Leave and surprised the vote had won, the first thing she said to me, was 'it will never happen the establishment didn't want it and will find a way of dragging it out and stopping it'
The establishment want it, murdoch, darce, gove, Johnson, raab, goldsmith, Francois, mogg, putin, trump, Pearce etc etc all want it.Quote:
Originally Posted by chris lee
The whole the establishment don’t want it is the worst argument you can have.
Okay.. the politicians never wanted itQuote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
They are politicians mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by chris lee
He's listed the American and Russian presidents, the former Foreign Secretary, former Secretary for Exiting the European Union, a former candidate for the Mayor of London (as well as a former Mayor of London) and a former minister in numerous departmentsQuote:
Originally Posted by chris lee
:hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
Bloody hell let me try one more time, the point I am trying to make is that the vast majority of elected MP's are remain voters, while the majority of the electorate voted Leave. Therefore It was clear from day one, that parliament had no will to push through a brexit.
in summary it was easy to predict this outcome 2 years ago.
This! and the porn ban?....looks like i'll emigrate to sweden...opps ..i already did that
The vast majority are remain are they? Then yesterday how did the revoke vote lose by quite a way?Quote:
Originally Posted by chris lee
194 voted to revoke (that means no Brexit)
283 voted not to revoke (that means Brexit)
Yes I believe the vast majority voted Remain, here I found the stats.Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
480 MPs said they would be voting Remain, including 184 Conservatives
:: 159 MPs said they would be voting Leave, including 139 Conservatives
:: 11 MPs were undeclared, including four Conservatives
This gives Remain a notional Commons majority of at least 310.
Yes mate that was before the ref but they had a chance to vote remain yesterday and they didn’t.
The reason brexit hasn’t happened is because due to poor negotiation and reality the brexit offered to the country is impossible and we’ll all be poorer if May’s deal or no deal goes through.
And the “Elites” and people in charge want brexit and are whipping their MPs to vote for it.
I believe that no matter who the PM was, which party they were from or any form of deal, would have been accepted at this point,Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
If we simulated the negotiations a million times with a million different scenarios I still can not see a deal that would be accepted, without it not delivering on Brexit.
That’s because what they promised is impossible and any form of Brexit will **** the county.
Unfortunately the a lot damage has already been done anyway, and we will still probably leave next month.
Can I ask what is the win-win scenario?Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
- The leave side can clearly see no form of a 'real' brexit can pass a vote in the commons
- The remain side Accept we will honour the vote and leave the EU, but will not vote for a 'real' brexit
genuine questions is there a compromise to be made, that can get passed?,
or is this turning into a war of attrition is one side going to have to win and another loose?
Turkeys voting for Christmas :facepalm:Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
Hopefully the Scots and Irish can scupper this nonsense!
Well if they can't come up with something by 2 weeks today then in all likelihood we'll crash out with no dealQuote:
Originally Posted by chris lee
Or revoke Article 50, do we really want the current feckwits in westminster steering the ship. there are no wins with brexit but some serious losses. job losses, inflation, recession to name 3!
The biggest problem has been the weakness of May as a Leave negotiator, who campaigned to remain.
Oh for a Maggie Thatcher now! ( I never thought I'd ever say THAT!!)
Why would the remain side honour an illegal vote (vote leave withdrew their appeal today btw) that would make the country poorer?Quote:
Originally Posted by chris lee
If the vote was a binding ref it would have been thrown out for its legality, it’s mad that because it wasn’t a binding vote we are sticking to it.
Prediction: Britain gets elbowed from the EU on April 12th, contrived economic and monetary turmoil ensues to provide the pretext for the worldwide debt bubble bursting. The resulting depression makes the one from the 1920s/30s seem tame in comparison, and all by design.
World events do not occur by accident. They are made to happen, whether it is to do with national issues or commerce; and most of them are staged and managed by those who hold the purse strings.
She campaigned for remain but she’s about as leave as you can get, look at her voting record and her record at the home office.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobh
The thing with with Brexit is you could have the world’s best negotiator and they couldn’t get anything that was promised.
May is a stubborn old ��who should have gone long ago. I’d love to speak to her f2f recognising she listens to nobody and keeps spouting the same sh1t the whole time. The Tory party is now dead in the water but sadly no viable opposition.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobh
On a technical level, if the Tories and DUP could come up with a Brexit plan they agreed on, there's nothing anyone else could do about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by chris lee
There will never be a compromise, not in the house, or even among leave voters. I have no-deal supporting friends who would never back having any deal and friends who support having a good deal who are dead against no-deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by chris lee
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Originally Posted by G rangetown Blue
Is Ralph Mctell invloved , and is that a Swansea swan banner, attached to that Union Jack?
May is dreadful. Cold, rude, mean spirited, cynical and an out and out hypocrite. She is going to make another desperate attempt to get her deal through Parliament. She needs to take the hint and walk away now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taffy Blue in Berkshire
And then there are some who simply say ‘leave means leave’ and don’t really seem to appreciate the difference between deal or no deal and just want out. They’re the ones I worry about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
It looks like a St.David's Flag with a Union Jack and a Swansea badge on itQuote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Can't educate pork.Quote:
Originally Posted by stevo
Quite true. The other day someone on the politics board was saying that soft brexit is any form of a deal and hard brexit is no deal. The disaster capitalists have done a good job of re-educating vast numbers of people.Quote:
Originally Posted by stevo
She'd make a great nasty midfielder , yield to one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pearcey3
What a lovely storyQuote:
Originally Posted by chris lee
What time do you eat supper?Quote:
Originally Posted by chris lee
About 6:30Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
Did he leave his supper as well, ??Quote:
Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2
What is a supper?