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Was that the worst ever premiership game for quality?
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Originally Posted by
MacAdder
My eyes are hurting!
Sod Premiership. It has to be one of the worst ever for quality.
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It was awful I thought that I was watching a game from 1995
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MacAdder
My eyes are hurting!
Those blaming our budget.
Smithies Cunningham Reid Murphy. All played no part and were available.
Madine and Tomlin gone.
Our striker Healy then takes the long throw duties.
Positives. Fans are great we battle and somehow we arent as good as relegated already.
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Hilts
Those blaming our budget.
Smithies Cunningham Reid Murphy. All played no part and were available.
Madine and Tomlin gone.
Our striker Healy then takes the long throw duties.
Positives. Fans are great we battle and somehow we arent as good as relegated already.
Fans have been Great all season! In fact, so good old chicken breast Winnie should get his head out of his arse and do something about that budget. This is the time, and it might never come back!
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Originally Posted by
Hilts
Those blaming our budget.
Smithies Cunningham Reid Murphy. All played no part and were available.
Madine and Tomlin gone.
Our striker Healy then takes the long throw duties.
Positives. Fans are great we battle and somehow we arent as good as relegated already.
Both teams will be relegated this season.
If Warnock ever needed reminding that we are desperate for a couple of new faces, today was it.
In fact Huddersfield can count themselves unfortunate not to win this 1-0
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Our summer budget was on the bench.
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There was some proper shit in the early years. People have short memories
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City123
There was some proper shit in the early years. People have short memories
Today was of the Slade variety.
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Parks football. Virtually nothing of class from both sides. First time I've seen a ref change his mind on a penalty like that....luckily. Next up Newcastle away. Pick n shovel.
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City123
There was some proper shit in the early years. People have short memories
We’re you even born in the early years?
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We need some quality across all three areas,defence,midfield and attack.
And not championship players stepping up a level.
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J R Hartley
We’re you even born in the early years?
Durban?
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
Durban?
1885-86. Maybe the worst City team ever.
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Tuerto
Durban?
No, the early years of the prem. I thought City123 was a young lad no older than 19/20 for some reason. Might be getting him mixed up with someonelse.
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What the feck as Durban got to do with anything.
Im pretty sure as bad as we were today wed have hammered Durbans garbage. There again Durban didnt have 30m on the bench.
It seems a badge of honour to some to bring up the sh!t of the past as if we cant criticise performances like today.
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These words were used by those around me & I can't argue with them:
Frightened
Negative
Slow
Piss poor passing
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Eric the Half a Bee
Sod Premiership. It has to be one of the worst ever for quality.
Usually when we're involved
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Was pleased we were on last on MOTD and in fact the highlights didn't portray the true story of how bad the game was.
Huddersfield fans might be a little aggrieved mind. Even though Etheridge had very little to do wrt saves, they outplayed us all over the pitch.
We look very tired and need some fresh personnel, even if that means bringing in people similar to those we already have.
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MacAdder
We look very tired and need some fresh personnel, even if that means bringing in people similar to those we already have.
Apologies for the semantics but rather than tired we look stale. My wife could manage a team to stop us scoring, we are so predictable and have no variation. We've now scored only 1 goal in open play in 6 games. I wouldn't be bothering looking to sign any defenders, it's creative and attacking players we need.
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Des Parrot
Apologies for the semantics but rather than tired we look stale. My wife could manage a team to stop us scoring, we are so predictable and have no variation. We've now scored only 1 goal in open play in 6 games. I wouldn't be bothering looking to sign any defenders, it's creative and attacking players we need.
Or use the ones we’ve got more effectively?
Reid and Murphy really both should have had at least 20 minutes yesterday
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Des Parrot
Apologies for the semantics but rather than tired we look stale. My wife could manage a team to stop us scoring, we are so predictable and have no variation. We've now scored only 1 goal in open play in 6 games. I wouldn't be bothering looking to sign any defenders, it's creative and attacking players we need.
Agreed. And at what point does stale and predictable become resigned to failure? Basic variation in tactics would help. Players didn't seem to have any confidence yesterday, were not well organised at the back and made too many mistakes. We have a difficult run in at the end of the season and a squad that would struggle in the Championship bearing in mind our reliance on loan signings in midfield.Given our limitations, it's time to start thinking about next season's away matches....Luton, Portsmouth, Bristol, Swansea, WBA, Villa,Birmingham....Leeds(?....about time they fell apart).
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Des Parrot
These words were used by those around me & I can't argue with them:
Frightened
Negative
Slow
Piss poor passing
Passive
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IanD
Agreed. And at what point does stale and predictable become resigned to failure? Basic variation in tactics would help. Players didn't seem to have any confidence yesterday, were not well organised at the back and made too many mistakes. We have a difficult run in at the end of the season and a squad that would struggle in the Championship bearing in mind our reliance on loan signings in midfield.Given our limitations, it's time to start thinking about next season's away matches....Luton, Portsmouth, Bristol, Swansea, WBA, Villa,Birmingham....Leeds(?....about time they fell apart).
Hopefully we will have a decent squad to deal with that next season? No way that the two stand out players, Arter and camo will be hanging around as much as I’d love it. You can see they are a cut above.
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https://twitter.com/coach_dogge/stat...604958720?s=19
Have a look at this from Sassuolo. Just shows that you don't need a huge budget to play good football
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thehumblegringo
Thing is though. do you think we play the way we do because of our small budget by the standards of this league? I reckon if Neil Warnock was given a football budget which was, say, three times larger than the one we had in the summer, we would still be playing essentially the same type of game.
That said, I do think that we play a bit more football this season and I reckon we would see some technically better players coming in next year if we stayed up, but as long as we have this manager, any changes in the approach which got us promoted will be very small and very gradual.
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the other bob wilson
Thing is though. do you think we play the way we do because of our small budget by the standards of this league? I reckon if Neil Warnock was given a football budget which was, say, three times larger than the one we had in the summer, we would still be playing essentially the same type of game.
That said, I do think that we play a bit more football this season and I reckon we would see some technically better players coming in next year if we stayed up, but as long as we have this manager, any changes in the approach which got us promoted will be very small and very gradual.
I tend to agree Bob. I suppose that's my point. I've heard Warnock on the radio countless times before he was at City saying "what's wrong with defenders being defenders" "row z etc".
It's Warnock's philosophy and that's why we play why we do. Personally I thought Arter was awful yesterday, especially first half yet when I saw Arter in a Bournemouth shirt he was a good footballer.
This issue is extended to the transfer market. We'd buy "more solid" defenders, faster wingers, a better target man and midfielders who can run more!
I honestly thought we were very good at Leicester but it seems in retrospect to be as much down to Leicesters difficulties in winning games they're expected to win as our good performance.
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thehumblegringo
I tend to agree Bob. I suppose that's my point. I've heard Warnock on the radio countless times before he was at City saying "what's wrong with defenders being defenders" "row z etc".
It's Warnock's philosophy and that's why we play why we do. Personally I thought Arter was awful yesterday, especially first half yet when I saw Arter in a Bournemouth shirt he was a good footballer.
This issue is extended to the transfer market. We'd buy "more solid" defenders, faster wingers, a better target man and midfielders who can run more!
I honestly thought we were very good at Leicester but it seems in retrospect to be as much down to Leicesters difficulties in winning games they're expected to win as our good performance.
Can't disagree with any of that gringo - I got to watch the Leicester game again on the club website and could take in more how well we played. On one hand, it's hard to see how a team that played that well can go to looking like we did yesterday in just a fortnight. However, I reckon what you say about Leicester applies even more so to us. We're underdogs in virtually every game we play this season and that suits Neil Warnock down to the ground - yesterday we were favourites and proved to be wholly ill equipped to cope with that label.
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the other bob wilson
Can't disagree with any of that gringo - I got to watch the Leicester game again on the club website and could take in more how well we played. On one hand, it's hard to see how a team that played that well can go to looking like we did yesterday in just a fortnight. However, I reckon what you say about Leicester applies even more so to us. We're underdogs in virtually every game we play this season and that suits Neil Warnock down to the ground - yesterday we were favourites and proved to be wholly ill equipped to cope with that label.
Only problem with that is we are the very worst there is when it comes to playing v the top 6.
Take them out and it applies though.
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goats
Hopefully we will have a decent squad to deal with that next season? No way that the two stand out players, Arter and camo will be hanging around as much as I’d love it. You can see they are a cut above.
Midfield would be stuffed without our loanees.With more matches in the Championship injuries are more than likely to take their toll. Plus Sol isn't getting any younger. Gunnars' contract is up in the summer. Zahore doesn't seem to be in the right mental space to regain his fom and gets injured at the sight of grass, Ward...unfortunately a bit of a sicknote but would love to see him back in form, Peltier... um, Morrison...sort those headers out please, Neil twixt the sticks...distribution needs working on to release players (not that anyone ever seems to be looking for a quick ball out and turn defence into attack, Murphy...it's a team game... try passing on the final quarter, Bobby...intelligent player...why not him instead of Rhys Healey yesterday, Junior...less of the tricks...touch/shoot. I could go on. Bit of a rant, I know, and maybe just a reaction to yesterday but, in short, we won't set the Championship on fire. The U18s looked good on the screen before the match. Any of them likely to come through the ranks? We may well need one or two sooner rather than later.
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the other bob wilson
Can't disagree with any of that gringo - I got to watch the Leicester game again on the club website and could take in more how well we played. On one hand, it's hard to see how a team that played that well can go to looking like we did yesterday in just a fortnight. However, I reckon what you say about Leicester applies even more so to us. We're underdogs in virtually every game we play this season and that suits Neil Warnock down to the ground - yesterday we were favourites and proved to be wholly ill equipped to cope with that label.
Yes.
It was obvious to me that this was the case in the Gillingham game.
There were many factors that led to our downfall but the overriding one for me was that we do not know how to play as the dominant team as I doubt any training sessions are geared for this.
You also need to be equipped mentally which we aren't.