VAR denied Man City an injury time winner.
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VAR denied Man City an injury time winner.
IT also denied me 12 of 12 in betting.. *****..Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Morris
VAR again.
I absolutely hate it.
There is one thing checking for infringements but it has basically taken ball to hand out of the game.
Are players now to dive out of the way of the ball in the fear it might brush his arm?
This is a pure example of technology royally making a sport worse.
This was a clear case of accidental handball being given as handball, presumably because of the silhouette-thingy rule. All these rule changes have turned the game into an absolute nonsense. I just wish we could all go back to the Laws of the Game as they were 30 years ago. 'Progress,' has taken us backwards.
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We might as well all play FIFA 2025 !!!
Football is ruined ???
Where Laws were once applied they are now being interpretted and it's got us into a right pickle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve the Tea
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This is what happens when you leave the worlds greatest talent on the bench.
works both ways if VAR was introduced last season in the prem pretty sure we would have had 4 cast iron penaltys which in effect could have kept us in the prem ( if we had scored them of course )
swings and roundabouts
Well, if we'd have had VAR last season then we would have surely stayed up (according to some on here) Were you one of them? :hehe: Personally, i don't like it. I don't care that officials get things wrong, or players, managers and owners. It's why i watch football.Quote:
Originally Posted by BLUETIT
Yep, blaming the ref is the best reason for not winning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
Agree entirely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Those penalties last season didn't need VAR. It just needed refs who were not partial. Just a look at the Mitrovic foul on Morrison at Craven Cottage would tell you that. Are you saying a ref needed help in giving that one? Perhaps someone could post a pic of it. He's having a piggy back on Mozza with both arms around his neck!Quote:
Originally Posted by MOZZER2
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Have a look at Mozz at the next game, he constantly fouls players in the penalty box but gets away with it because he's cute. I'm not defending Mitrovic, but we can't have it all ways. Peltier is another, watch him hold onto players at set pieces. If they can get away with it then good luck, and that goes for the other team in my book.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve the Tea
A couple of weeks ago I saw a Premier league table for last season if VAR had been used.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
We finished 17th, 4 points ahead of Brighton.
steve the tea the game has moved on whether we like it or not . VAR is just another extension of change and like most things in life people get sceptical when it does !
there are very fine margins in top flight football now and with so much money involved VAR seems the logical choice . as for us last season as well as the penalty decisions against us i can recall quite a few dodgy off sides too ! only if we had VAR last season :hehe:
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Originally Posted by The Bloop
What a load of bollocks that obviously was. Utter cobblers. After all, nobody could possibly know what would or would not have happened during a game after a VAR decision was awarded, so how could they possibly know what the final score would have been?
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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
Just like Sliding Doors innit
I'm worried about the "accidental handball" rule.
It states that if the ball touches an arm IN ANY PHASE that leads to a goal, then the goal is not allowed.
What if a keeper clears a ball, kicks it against his defenders arm, it bounces to another defender, a dozen or so passes later it gets to the other pen area and a goal is scored.
Under the letter of the law, play would have to be brought back to the keeper's kick.
This will ruin the game.
I agree with you that the game has moved on but not for the better. I can recall Warnock saying, when he faced the FA/PL charge last season, that he argued 14 match changing decisions went against City. My point is that once upon a time everyone knew what offside and handball were.Quote:
Originally Posted by MOZZER2
Today's situation was always going to happen because:
- the VAR process still has not been refined and
- the meddling with the Laws has now also brought interpretation into the equation. This is a bad step.
They need to be applied, as they were a generation ago. Offside is offside whether interfering with play or not and needs to be given when the offence occurs and not delayed. Handball is only handball if the player deliberately handles to gain an advantage. The present situation is, I think you'll agree, is a morass of ...
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The future of football is going to see attackers aim for defenders rather than the goal, the resulting penalties being easier to score, while defenders running away from attackers rather than protecting their net and fans refusing to celebrate any goal until 5 minutes after it's been scored. It's going to be weird.
Spot on imagine a world of football so clean in its decisions,Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
you'd have no reason to rant and moan .
Can they rewind back to when joe jordan handled the ball at anfield
VAR was brought in to correct "obvious errors" only - that lasted a long time didn't it! It's added to the drama, but at the expense of the game.
Yep. That’s the intention. To create chaos that only people watching on tv will have any idea what’s going on.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Those at the ground will be left scratching their heads. Were it not for their smart phones the majority of people at the ground would have left the ground yesterday with no idea why the goal was disallowed. Just the way the tv companies wanted.
The tv people are being quite blatant in their support for it. Surely their first reaction would have been “this is ****ing stupid” after what happened yesterday. Yet they are calmly like well I guess it did brush his hand so by the letter of the new law (introduced for VAR by the way) I supppse it’s worked.
Who’s going to be the first team to have a goal disallowed for offside, because a player got “big ears” ???
Ear, your offside !!!! (Can’t put a laughing smiley, as the tinternet bullies don’t like ‘um)
To be fair, it took Messrs Tyler and Neville some time to realise what had happened as well - bloody shambles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Father Dougal
Depends which 'TV people' you watch I guess. For instance, the Soccer Saturday panel are very mixed in their opinions as to how VAR is working, while the Match of the Day panel were similarly irritated last night:Quote:
Originally Posted by Father Dougal
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/49384184
It needs to be noted that the clubs voted for VAR. As for the handball rule being introduced for VAR, that's nonsense. Not true. It applies in all leagues. It's being highlighted by VAR in the top leagues, though.
VAR is not at fault,the rule changes are.
VAR needs things to be black and white. Did it brush his hand or not? Is he offside or not? You can’t have grey areas. It works in cricket and tennis for exactly that reason- it’s black and white.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
It was never going to work in football because so much of it is judgement. That’s why it’s by far the most popular sport in the world.
The next thing will be any “contact” in the box will be a penalty. Anything at all. VAR won’t be able to cope with grey areas so football will have to become a non contact game.
As TOBW says it wasn’t long ago people believed it would be brought in for clear and obvious errors. Sounds nice and simple doesn’t it? The reality is far from it.
Kind of. But VAR couldn’t help you find out if it is deliberate hand ball or not. Can only help for did it touch an arm or not. That’s why the rule change had to happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by sneggyblubird