National museum may have to shut, but it’s ok cause they just blew £5 million on a few hundred ft of cycle path around the rec in Roath….
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj7mnneprzlo
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National museum may have to shut, but it’s ok cause they just blew £5 million on a few hundred ft of cycle path around the rec in Roath….
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj7mnneprzlo
The Roath cycle path isn't a Welsh Government project.Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
I've visited the National Museum of Scotland several times when up in Edinburgh on business, and it's absolutely fascinating - I could spend a week there. The place in Cathays Park by comparison has become like one big theme park - very little actual history, and about 50% closed off. It's a shame. A wonderful, stunning building left as a great legacy by our forefathers 100 yrs ago, now it's another thing totally f*cked up by those clowns down the docks..Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
This is outrageous. Let's be honest, the national museum is pretty crap as it. That animatronic mammoth was the highlight and now that piece of shite doesn't move either. The art work is fantastic but nothing on the ground floor has changed for what seems like decades.Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
This is in stark comparison to other national museums around the world, but also the other national museums in Wales - St Fagans and Big Pit for example are absolutely brilliant.
Its a comparatively small sum but symbolically very important to Welsh culture, which the WG sometimes seem to think doesn't extend much beyond bilingual signage.
Surely as a tory you voted for this?Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
You vote for austerity which is forced on the UK so cuts to public services are inevitable.
Own it.
Every party had a policy of austerity after the financial crisis and austerity ended years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doucas
You'll need better than that stock answer, although I suspect you don't care if the museum closed or not anyway?
Oh…oh that’s ok then cause the wag don’t usually waste much do they. Even worse, it’s Cardiff council then is it? Who will then tell us bin collection is once a monthQuote:
Originally Posted by blue sky
I didn’t vote Tory you twat, not last time anyway, I just can’t stand Labour either, I’m not a sheep who just follows the masses like yourselfQuote:
Originally Posted by Doucas
Bet he doesn’t, I on the other hand was there every week when the kids were really little about 10 yrs ago…it was great.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
I take mine too. It's a really important part of Cardiff and Wales cultural infrastructure. It just needs some investment and TLC. And less of those china plates..they are boring.😂Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
For a start there is no such entity as the ‘WAG’. It’s the WG and has been for years. Secondly I agree that the Roath cycle path is largely unnecessary (given that there are two parallel roads and existing paths in the rec) and that it is costing far too much. Added to the feeder canal cost this project puts Cardiff Council in a bad light.Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
The problems with the museum building should be blamed on the people running Amgueddfa Cymru or their predecessors. They must have known that these problems would occur and are now in panic mode. The main building (like next door City Hall) is Grade I listed so eternally safe from demolition or substantial development. Amgueddfa Cymru and Cardiff Council should have bid for and allocated City Deal money to renovate these buildings. £3 million of this money went to the Canal Quarter and it would have been better spent on those two buildings in the Civic Centre.
Anyway, the £67 billion being spent on HS2 (with around £3-4 billion coming from Welsh tax payers) is a far bigger scandal. When the line is up and running it will negatively impact the economy of Wales but we will have helped to pay for our impoverishment. This is orders of magnitude more incompetent and unfair than anything that the WG or CC can mess up.
Are you sure - as I thought the cycle paths were deployed and built by Cardiff Council with grant money supplied by the Senedd. That was the case for Castle street, when the council closed it and put in a cycle path etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue sky
The feeder canal project will be a very good long term plan of opening up the city centreQuote:
Originally Posted by blue sky
It's absolutely wasted being covered by concrete
Being by the water is good
It is part-funded by the WG Active Travel fund. The exact amount is not known according to this article. https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...-just-28957626Quote:
Originally Posted by pipster
Anyway it’s the brainchild of CC. They think up hare-brained schemes such as this and apply for funding. Active Travel is a huge part of both the WG’s and CC’s ideology. I think this is a ridiculous waste of money but blaming the WG is letting CC off the hook
Opening up the city centre? It’s already open. If anything, this canal closes off certain routes and makes it more difficult to cross Churchill Way.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
And having 3 inches of water at the bottom of a concrete culvert is probably the least attractive water feature in any city I’ve ever visited. The design and implementation of this scheme has been pretty crap so far.
It's a lot more than 3 inches deepQuote:
Originally Posted by blue sky
If Swansea City Centre had a canal in the main shopping area they could open up they would
In Cardiff the locals moan and send letters to Wales Online
I took this photo in late January. There was about 3 inches in water in there at the time. On each and every subsequent visit (including last Saturday night) there was a similar level of water in the canal.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
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If the canal was too deep they wouldn't be able to see all the hire bikes dumped in it....not that Cardiff are likely to get another contract after the last two just ended up with bikes being trashed. The main reason for the cycle paths not being used is there are no bike hire schemes and haven't been since January this year.
Have you actually seen it ? - it's about 20 feet long, a concrete eyesore and they seem to have forgotten Churchill way is a like a wind tunnel and is usually in shadow due to high rise buildings all around it. It is the biggest waste of money since the 89,000,000 bus station , which was about 12 years behind schedule....Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
3 inches my arseQuote:
Originally Posted by blue sky
I fish in the Dock feeder canal in bute Park and what makes it flow is the fact there is often loads of water coming into it , off the taff
As its often raining in autumn , winter and spring
And that's why it was built
The fact you don't like looking at it is irrelevant
YesQuote:
Originally Posted by pipster
The rest of your post is cobblers
Doesn't sound like support is imminent.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-68817557
How much went on to that little puddle they dug out on thee canal quarter? 3 million….christ alive.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue sky
It’s a joke….that money could have been spent in much better vanity project, you can barely even see water it’s so small….Quote:
Originally Posted by pipster
I refer the gentleman to the reply given earlierQuote:
Originally Posted by goats
If the rain is heavy the gate is opened at blackweir Bridge to take excess water off the river taff , into the feeder canal which empties out at but east dock , Atlantic wharf
If you walk past the canal that's been uncovered if it's not flowing water either it hasn't been raining much or the gate hasn't been opened
Cardiff wouldn't be the major port it was and is and would just be a small place if it wasn't for the feeder canal
By taking excess water off the taff and directing it into the docks it meant that the docks that built the city would be able to operate 24 hours a day ......and the industry that relied on the docks knew the water would never get too low and dry out ......so cardiff had an advantage over many other British ports
It's an incredible part of the history of Cardiff and in years to come a quarter of the city centre will be seeing the canal
I know it well, I’ve spent a lot of mis spent youth time in the castle grounds, it goes under kingsway along by the city hall then under Queen street to Churchill way, then through Atlantic wharf where I once lived and stumbled along it many blurry nights walking home.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Some big pike in it which is why hang around bute parkQuote:
Originally Posted by goats
Going fishing on the feeder..... you do know this this is a cottaging hot spot dont you ?. I;m guessing you do.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Sort your sex life out - unless you want to be a bum boy in bute park
I can imagine you hanging around in that area….particularly as the sun goes down.:biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Not in the day it isn'tQuote:
Originally Posted by pipster
Unless they don't fancy me ?
The fish come alive when the light fadesQuote:
Originally Posted by goats
As do some of the 'fishermen' hanging around in the bushesQuote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
If you think many people are interested in either Cardiff’s history as a coal port or the dock feeder’s role in Cardiff’s history then you are delusional. Swansea, Plymouth, Weymouth, Southampton, Portsmouth, Folkestone, Dover, Tilbury, Gravesend, Harwich, Felixstowe, Grimsby, Hull, Redcar, Teesport, Sunderland, Port of Tyne, Leith, Dundee, Aberdeen, greater Glasgow’s various ports, Silloth, Barrow, Heysham, Liverpool and Bristol were all far less reliant on tides than Cardiff was/is. The Dock Feeder didn’t give Cardiff an advantage at all, it merely partially compensated for the fact that ships could only sail into and out of Cardiff during high tides. None of the ports I’ve listed were handicapped to the extent Cardiff was by the tides.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
God this is almost as boring as the Dock Feeder.
If the dock feeder hadn't been built Cardiff wouldn't have grown into the cosmopolitan place it is today due to the port and docksQuote:
Originally Posted by blue sky
Lots of people are interested in Cardiffs history as Wales capital city
Considering you are a nationalist I would assume you would be but clearly I was wrong
Maybe we should fill it in ?
And dance around dressed as druids
Now that really is living in the past
I’m interested in Cardiff’s history but your claim that the history of the Dock Feeder justifies spending £millions on it is utter claptrap. The decision to allocate cash to this white elephant/vanity project is very unpopular with people in Cardiff and the half-finished end product has been the subject of much ridicule. Of all the fascinating individual aspects of Cardiff’s history this piddling canal is one of the least interesting. Anyone claiming that this will attract tourists or history buffs is living in cloud cuckoo land, or Cowbridge.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
You are interested in cardiffs history if it suits your nationalist agendaQuote:
Originally Posted by blue sky
I didn't say the critically important part the dock feeder played in your country's capital City's growth justified whatever expenditure you want to verbalise about
I commented on its importance which is absolutely enormous and far greater than a piddling canal as you describe it
The biggest waste of money is the WAG , whoever is in charge
I voted for that crap which was a fig leaf to the Plaid nutcases . My ex missus a rabid anti English Welsh speaker pleaded with me to vote yes which I did only to have her tell me on polling day that she went shopping with her mum and a load of cracaic mates
Now when it comes to crazy decisions and backward steps that one's costing us far more than a bit of investment in an old waterway in the city centre
I think it's okay. It cost a lot. It's not as good as it may have been but also it needs to bed in.
What I do think is really poor is the lack of general awareness of our city's history. The canal in Whitchurch for example has absolutely nothing refering to it on site, and the city probably wouldn't be a city at all without it.