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Shocking how amateurish they were.
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Is there one?
Shocking how amateurish they were.
What he say?
Admitted that they were badly prepared for this season and now they have learnt that they have to start 6 months plus before the end of the season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trigger
Mind-boggling.
Well at least they've learned. Maybe they'll also learn we need a long term strategy when it comes to playing style and picking the next manager.
He went on to say he’d love to keep NW at the club. I wouldn’t hold my breath if I were you.Quote:
Originally Posted by simonp_ccfc
I get the feeling that the club is way behind the times with regards the important behind the scenes stuff.
We need a new owner. You can’t trust these guys to make any important footballing decisions. I can see NW becoming a DOF type figure which would be daft considering how out of touch he is with modern game.
I can appreciate some people don't like the style of play, I can appreciate some people may just not like the guy, he has certainly rubbed many up the wrong way over the years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Divine Wright
But come on, the guy managed us to promotion to the Premier League last season coming in halfway through the season prior. I'd say he's pretty well in touch with the game.
I doubt there are many owners who can make informed footballing decisions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Divine Wright
What we need is a sporting director in my opinion.
Warnock deserves the freedom of the City for what he's achieved at this club but I wonder if he'd embrace that kind of evolution at this club. Maybe he would but I think for Warnock's magic to work he'd need full control and this would be at odds with someone with a long term strategy.
Where did he say this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Divine Wright
Link?Quote:
Originally Posted by Divine Wright
He's managed lots of teams to promotion...quite a few to relegation as well. Just as many players may be good enough to get promoted but not be good enough for the premiership, may be some managers are the sameQuote:
Originally Posted by Trigger
Pre match Palace on Radio Wales.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elwood Blues
Difficult decisions to be had
The guy is 70 years old. He is very traditional in his style and his mindset. He is not the future.Quote:
Originally Posted by thehumblegringo
Have a look at how teams like Swansea, Wolves, Bournemouth play. Young, wordly managers with a contemporary approach to the game. We are the luddites of elite football and this roll-your-sleeves-up, honest-to-goodness thing only goes so far for me.
Like I said though, that’s kind of besides the point, or the tip of the iceberg. The people in charge of the club are unlikely to look beyond their noses. I can’t see the club developing anything longterm under this lot.
If Warnock goes I'd guarantee Blackwell steps up. God help us, Slade/Trollope all over again.
I'd rather Warnock than Blackwell or Pulis
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0004rdn
Starts at 18:50, brief chat of about three minutes.
I apologise if this is far too personal but when the City players are out prior to the game practicing all kinds of stuff, he looks like a Sunday pub league guy in baggy shorts with a big beer bellyQuote:
Originally Posted by Joe Gillis
Nothing like a deliberately sensationalised thread full of supposition, innuendo and criticism at the end of a long hard season to get the juices flowing is there. Presumably makes the poster and other like contributors feel all important and knowledgeable, with their fingers on the pulse of current events at the club. Sets them up nicely for the long summer break when things might be a bit quiet. Otherwise known as a pile of old drivel submitted by people who have nothing better to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Divine Wright
Tell me then. Why exactly is Dalman at the club. What is his role? What is his job, and if he has one. Did he do it well? Is he qualified in any way? Genuine question. Not to put you on the spot. Well, a little bit maybe, but..Quote:
Originally Posted by dml1954
I think they are very valid points. Between Tan and Choo we have plenty of financial and balance sheet experience. I think the club could replace that position with a Director of Football who could review transfers, negotiate contracts and have regular meetings with the manager to address football issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolfmother
Unfortunately, due to his headstrong demeanour it cannot be Warnock. Maybe someone like Alan Curbishley ?
Not a convincing interview , avoided the initial question about NW, then joked he did not know what VT was thinking.
Mehmet Dalman is an investment banker. Even though he's listed as chairman, I'm assuming he oversees the day-to-day running of the club in a CFO capacity. And as such, is part of the Transfer Committee. He has no football experience as far as I am aware.
Maybe we're just supposed to "get behind him"?
Maybe he is there because of his contacts within the banking industry ?Quote:
Originally Posted by NYCBlue
Then we could ask why Ken Choo is there.. Any more number crunchers at the club? But Dalman also has a part ownership, dosent he. So he quit his banking job to overse day to day running at a football club? Is that his job now? Or is he still a banker, and Cardiff City is more of a hobby? Oversee what exactly? If the shirts are clean and checking if everyone turned up for their job? No wait, that is Ken Choo again.. Im still confused. And i Dalman didn't know to plan two separate outcomes from the season. You would think almighty Warwick did? After all, he is the promotion master?Quote:
Originally Posted by NYCBlue
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehmet_DalmanQuote:
Originally Posted by Wolfmother
From 1990 to 1995, Dalman served as the Head of European and Japanese Equities at Credit Lyonnais Securities and Head of Quantitative Marketing at The Nikko Securities Europe. He served as a Managing Director at Deutsche Morgan Grenfell Capital Markets Limited, and Head of Japanese Equities and Equity Derivatives for Asia Pacific. Between 1997 and 2004, Dalman was the first non-German to sit on the board of the German bank Commerzbank. He founded the WMG Group / WMG Advisors LLP in 2004. In January 2012, Dalman joined the Cardiff City F.C. board as the Bluebirds looked to return to the top flight and was subsequently made chairman in July 2013.[
http://wmgfunds.com/about-us/
I think he was the main person behind the scenes who arranged the Manchester United sale to the Glazers from Magnier and McM**** about 15 years ago. He almost sold the club to Colonel Gadaffi - but that fell through.
He's a financier, businessman, deal-maker, experienced chairman and figure of calm and authority. Useful to have in his role with the club. He wouldn't know a 15 goal a season striker though if he fell over one!
(The '****' above should read 'a nus' with no gaps!)
“I think we should have planned much, much more ahead than we have done. That’s something we have learned”.
Fair play to Dalman for being honest with the fans but that admission is truly astonishing. That was planning for promotion to the wealthiest league in world football, what on earth were they thinking?
And still we managed to almost go bust. Twice? Wow. Still not sure what his job is..Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
And regarding A Nus. Ill put one in yours any time JonJon :thumbup:
I think we should keep in mind what NW said about staying but helping to look for a replacement around the turn of the year. i think that is fairly easy to grasp.
As for a director of football, i cannot see Neil wanting that role at all. I prefer that he find his replacement and they have a nice transition during the second half of the season if such a thing is ever possible in football. I don't think I've ever heard of it but it might be good if it could happen. someone mentioned Bellamy?? Is it a possibility? He is on record as saying he has learned a great deal about management from working close to NW, and if you add that to his own football drive and his insistence on skill and fitness it may just work.
Thing is , Neil Warnock is obviously a great man manager but does anyone think he’s in the know enough to recommend , for example, a young portuguese, german, french or italian manager who’s been getting success and approaching the game in an innovative way for a reserve team or a second division club in their respective leagues?Quote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle
I think that if his recruitment is anything to go by he’d recommend an upcoming british manager whose approach is somewhat similar to his own. This wouldn’t necessarily be a bad thing but if it is the case, as with players, you are immediately reducing the pool from which you can choose and maybe missing out on better options.
The board should have advisors in the EU and South America who can give them a variety of candidates, as well as Warnock’s input.
God leave these people alone, it wasnt long ago folk were praising them for turning the club around ,giving it back to the fans , got a promotion out of the blue.
The manager is 70 , has gone through hell this season with transfer collapses, the dreadful death of a Sala ,nearly kept us up with a threadbare team .
Yes were disappointed going down ,but lets do this respectfully,
FFS.
It’s good that you stick up for people but you can’t use the Sala thing every time someone says something against the club. The conversation got back to football a few months back now and the comments Dalman made refer to incompetence that pre dates the Sala tragedy. So, I suggest you have a listen to the interview and comment on what was said and address the topic at hand.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Oh I know,lets get some real football men in and see how that goes.Sam Hamman,Peter Ridsdale?The game is littered with club clubs that have suffered under real football types.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolfmother
So you’re saying we shouldn’t have people in control of the club than have an idea about the game ? Or that you’d prefer to have someone who specialises in finance despite the fact they will make mistakes in the running of the football team ?Quote:
Originally Posted by sneggyblubird
The questions posed are valid. Why is this fella running the day to day decisions affecting on-the-pitch issues when he/they are clearly novices. I have no fecking idea how to run a club but even I think I’d have the presence of mind to think in January 2018 when we were towards the top of the championship that we should start putting in provisional approaches to the types of players we’d be interested in signing were we to go up. I find incredible that none of Choo, Dalman or Warnock felt it relevant to entertain the idea of a promotion plan.
It bugs me because had we done the basics we would have started the season with a stronger squad (a striker and right back at least) and there’s every chance it would have made the difference between going down and staying up. It’s regrettable and disappointing , that’s all.
While they may relatively still be novices they have been here 5+ years now and things are running now more smoothly than, well name any date really. I think we have to recognise that in December we had lost 4 games on the trot and were perhaps looking to manage resources best we could between chances of dropping into play-offs and staying ahead of the pack. Things are not perfect and Dalman may or may not be a conman but we are stronger off-off-the-field than we have been since perhaps Malky's first season, although recognising that there is much work to be done.Quote:
Originally Posted by Divine Wright
I dont know if Dalman is a conman. But if he is the man running things, he also mapped out budgets. Signed contracts and put the club where it was. I don’t know how Malky did Anything or Shamster Slade did. But I know Ole never negotiate anything.
Since Tan came in Cardiff City has been a fortress of paranoia. It was absolutely crazy at the end of Malkys reign and Oles. There might be a smother operation now, or more control as you can put it.. But there is still a fortress of paranoia. Dalman is probably there protecting is investment, which he can’t afford to loose, and there is nothing Tan can do about that. Ken Choo is there becouse Tan dosent trust anyone. So basically, there isn’t room for any football people beside a DOF.
I wonder how Tan will react to both the Mackay’s and Warnock putting his sons player in the shop window at Fulham. At least he has said something about play like that before..
Listening to that piece gringo put up on Ajax. They have key personnel in every department. People who know what they are doing. We have none. Not even a mananger...
Yes, I know the riddler and scam Where worse.
But it really needs a new dynamic at the top of Cardiff, dosent it? Just a thought.