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Artificial Intelligence
What are people’s thoughts on where we currently are with AI and where we are heading with it?
I’ve used ChatGPT a fair bit over the last few months and it has been very handy for certain tasks that I’d not really relished doing.
It’s alarming some people though to the point of it’s progression being requested to slow or pause for a while.
https://www.reuters.com/technology/a...ge-2023-05-05/
I watched this Tom Scott video a while back and his concerns resonated with me.
https://youtu.be/jPhJbKBuNnA
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Have you tried asking ChatGPT?
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Google and Amazon smart speakers are AI of a kind ?
They really piss me off
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I'm sure they're genuine concerns, but it does make it sound like a sci-fi plot from the 1950s.
AI football managers in a few years time?
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Lots of people will lose jobs as they become less efficient and obsolete compared to what replaces them.
Which is nothing new. Farmhands sowed fields with tools and by hand before being replaced by cattle pulling heavy machinery which was in turn replaced with tractors pulling machines stuffed with electronics and computers to sow fields at the maximum efficiency.
How many people and how many hours did it take to build a car in a factory in 1923 compared to 2023?
There is a difference this time potentially. Previously improvements in technology would tend to take jobs away from the working class. With AI, I think it’ll disproportionately affect higher income white collar professions. Bankers, analysts, coders, marketing, etc.
With AI, in theory, it’s a lot easier to replace people who sit at a desk and spend 8 hours at a computer compared to bar staff, cleaners, shopkeepers, bin men, cabbies, builders, etc.
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What is ChatGPT? I can’t see an app? I’m probably missing the point.
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Originally Posted by
Canton Kev
Lots of people will lose jobs as they become less efficient and obsolete compared to what replaces them.
Which is nothing new. Farmhands sowed fields with tools and by hand before being replaced by cattle pulling heavy machinery which was in turn replaced with tractors pulling machines stuffed with electronics and computers to sow fields at the maximum efficiency.
How many people and how many hours did it take to build a car in a factory in 1923 compared to 2023?
There is a difference this time potentially. Previously improvements in technology would tend to take jobs away from the working class. With AI, I think it’ll disproportionately affect higher income white collar professions. Bankers, analysts, coders, marketing, etc.
With AI, in theory, it’s a lot easier to replace people who sit at a desk and spend 8 hours at a computer compared to bar staff, cleaners, shopkeepers, bin men, cabbies, builders, etc.
you could replace the whole of parliament with AI and can get the job done a lot quicker.
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Brave New World.
No roads. No cars. No escape?
A 105-mile-long city will snake through the Saudi desert. Is that a good idea? - https://www.npr.org/2022/07/26/11136...or-line-desert
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Forget 15 minute cities. In Saudi Arabia, construction is underway for a 5 minute city, known as 'The Line', where nine million inmat—"residents" will be densely populated into an AI controlled, "zero emissions" smart city, presented as some kind of futuristic utopian paradise.… <a href="https://t.co/uhPQgwJ3Cj">pic.twitter.com/uhPQgwJ3Cj</a></p>— Wide Awake Media (@wideawake_media) <a href="https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1647857634525970433?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 17, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
https://youtu.be/b6GgaJWcbww
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Organ Morgan.
Brave New World.
No roads. No cars. No escape?
A 105-mile-long city will snake through the Saudi desert. Is that a good idea? -
https://www.npr.org/2022/07/26/11136...or-line-desert
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Forget 15 minute cities. In Saudi Arabia, construction is underway for a 5 minute city, known as 'The Line', where nine million inmat—"residents" will be densely populated into an AI controlled, "zero emissions" smart city, presented as some kind of futuristic utopian paradise.… <a href="https://t.co/uhPQgwJ3Cj">pic.twitter.com/uhPQgwJ3Cj</a></p>— Wide Awake Media (@wideawake_media) <a href="https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1647857634525970433?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 17, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
https://youtu.be/b6GgaJWcbww
that's not really AI though is it?
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Sludge will reply to this thread and prove AI probably isn't such a bad idea.
Organ Morgan will then contribute and confirm it.
Hey ho. Who gives a fuuck?
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Originally Posted by
2b2bdoo
What is ChatGPT? I can’t see an app? I’m probably missing the point.
https://openai.com/blog/chatgpt
try it out
I just asked it to write a song about Peter whittingham in the style of chas and dave, here are the results
(Verse 1)
Oh, gather 'round, all you football fans,
I'll tell you 'bout a legend, a true hero of the stands,
His name was Peter Whittingham, a maestro on the pitch,
With his skills and his passion, he made the crowd bewitch.
(Chorus)
Peter Whittingham, the midfield maestro,
With his boots and his magic, he'd make the ball go,
Oh, Peter Whittingham, a legend through and through,
He played the game with heart, the fans all loved him too.
(Verse 2)
From Aston Villa to the Bluebirds he'd go,
He'd dance on the grass, putting on a show,
With his left foot like a wand, he'd spray the perfect pass,
Creating chances, scoring goals, bringing joy to the mass.
(Chorus)
Peter Whittingham, the midfield maestro,
With his boots and his magic, he'd make the ball go,
Oh, Peter Whittingham, a legend through and through,
He played the game with heart, the fans all loved him too.
(Bridge)
In the middle of the park, he'd orchestrate the game,
His vision and his composure, brought him fame,
With a smile on his face and a twinkle in his eye,
He'd light up the stadium, reaching for the sky.
(Verse 3)
He left us too soon, a tragedy so sad,
But his memory lives on, making us all glad,
Peter Whittingham, forever in our hearts,
A true footballing genius, his legacy never departs.
(Chorus)
Peter Whittingham, the midfield maestro,
With his boots and his magic, he'd make the ball go,
Oh, Peter Whittingham, a legend through and through,
He played the game with heart, the fans all loved him too.
(Outro)
So raise a glass, let's toast to this footballing gem,
Peter Whittingham, we'll never forget him,
In our songs and our memories, he'll always be alive,
Forever cherished, a true hero of the blue and white.
ok just a silly example, but prei impressive I thought
more and more and higher value jobs are going to be made obsolete by AI eventually, humanity needs to find a way to manage this without leaving people behind
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Will it get rid of the royal family ?
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Jordi Culé
Sludge will reply to this thread and prove AI probably isn't such a bad idea.
Organ Morgan will then contribute and confirm it.
Hey ho. Who gives a fuuck?
I personally think that we are at one of those game changing junctions in time.
You are old enough to remember becoming aware of the internet…possibly not giving a fcuk about it.
There is serious talk for example that AI could make people immortal by the end of this decade.
I’d still like to see hover boards from Back To The Future.
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This took literally around two seconds.
Not exactly Alfred Lord Tennyson...But it probably could do it in his style
Write a poem about "Premier League Plastic Supporters" and Quote Sludge Factory from CCMB.co.uk
Premier League Plastic Supporters, they cheer and they shout
But do they truly love the game or is it just a clout?
They flaunt their team's colours, but do they know their lore?
Or are they just following trends, a fad to explore?
The stadiums are packed, the atmosphere is tense
But are these fans loyal or just there for the pretence?
They cheer for goals and victories, but do they know the pain
Of supporting through losses and seasons of no gain?
Sludge Factory from CCMB.co.uk spoke true
When he said, "plastic fans, you know who you are, shame on you."
For true fans are not just there for the highs
But also for the lows, the struggles, and the tries.
So if you're a Premier League Plastic Supporter, hear this plea
Don't just follow the trends, love the game for what it should be
It's not just about winning, it's about the love for the team
And the journey that comes with it, the joy and the dream.
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Wash DC Blue
This took literally around two seconds.
Not exactly Alfred Lord Tennyson...But it probably could do it in his style
Write a poem about "Premier League Plastic Supporters" and Quote Sludge Factory from CCMB.co.uk
Premier League Plastic Supporters, they cheer and they shout
But do they truly love the game or is it just a clout?
They flaunt their team's colours, but do they know their lore?
Or are they just following trends, a fad to explore?
The stadiums are packed, the atmosphere is tense
But are these fans loyal or just there for the pretence?
They cheer for goals and victories, but do they know the pain
Of supporting through losses and seasons of no gain?
Sludge Factory from CCMB.co.uk spoke true
When he said, "plastic fans, you know who you are, shame on you."
For true fans are not just there for the highs
But also for the lows, the struggles, and the tries.
So if you're a Premier League Plastic Supporter, hear this plea
Don't just follow the trends, love the game for what it should be
It's not just about winning, it's about the love for the team
And the journey that comes with it, the joy and the dream.
Lovely stuff
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While Organ Maudlin whitters on about clotshots, black-eyed zombies and overnight magnetic pole shifts there are very serious concerns about the environment, climate, our personal data being hacked and accessed by malevolent parties and security services, our being manipulated by Google algorithms and the like as well as the misuse of AI in general.
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Originally Posted by
Canton Kev
Lots of people will lose jobs as they become less efficient and obsolete compared to what replaces them.
Which is nothing new. Farmhands sowed fields with tools and by hand before being replaced by cattle pulling heavy machinery which was in turn replaced with tractors pulling machines stuffed with electronics and computers to sow fields at the maximum efficiency.
How many people and how many hours did it take to build a car in a factory in 1923 compared to 2023?
There is a difference this time potentially. Previously improvements in technology would tend to take jobs away from the working class. With AI, I think it’ll disproportionately affect higher income white collar professions. Bankers, analysts, coders, marketing, etc.
With AI, in theory, it’s a lot easier to replace people who sit at a desk and spend 8 hours at a computer compared to bar staff, cleaners, shopkeepers, bin men, cabbies, builders, etc.
Bar staff will soon be a thing of the past what with all the self serving facilities being installed ,they are even having them down the City next season.
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I'm excited by it but also wary.
I'm excited in the way that we need it to solve our major problems e.g producing clean energy on mass, climate change etc.
I'm also very aware a lot of us could be without jobs, under our current economic and political order it will just lead to a tiny amount of incredibly wealthy people while the rest of us suck eggs and fight for the scraps.
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Doucas
I'm excited by it but also wary.
I'm excited in the way that we need it to solve our major problems e.g producing clean energy on mass, climate change etc.
I'm also very aware a lot of us could be without jobs, under our current economic and political order it will just lead to a tiny amount of incredibly wealthy people while the rest of us suck eggs and fight for the scraps.
AI and assumptions is not a new thing though , its being going on since at least the 1950’s for computers , they just use more up to date technology to predict outcomes , which more often than not are way out.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histor...l_intelligence
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I'm convinced that half the posts on here are written by AI.
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I’m sorry Dave, I’m afraid I can’t do that
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AI and Robotics will replace lots of jobs. Even building sites are predicted to be largely human free by the 50s and there's already a robot bricky much quicker than any human and won't knock off at 4pm.
In the short term people working with AI will shrink the needed workforce.
Problems will arise when AI are allowed to rewrite themselves, generate other AI and build things via robotics without human oversight.
It's why universal basic income will become necessary as there won't be enough jobs for everyone.
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SludgeGPT
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Google and Amazon smart speakers are AI of a kind ?
They really piss me off
Ive been using SludgeGPT but it's way out of date though , but I guess, it really is artificial intelligence in its purest form.
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PontBlue
AI and Robotics will replace lots of jobs. Even building sites are predicted to be largely human free by the 50s and there's already a robot bricky much quicker than any human and won't knock off at 4pm.
In the short term people working with AI will shrink the needed workforce.
Problems will arise when AI are allowed to rewrite themselves, generate other AI and build things via robotics without human oversight.
It's why universal basic income will become necessary as there won't be enough jobs for everyone.
Your last sentence is spot on.
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It’s certainly a concern but was always going to happen.
No way of putting it back in its box and let’s hope it’s used for good
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TWGL1
Your last sentence is spot on.
I agree
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WJ99mobile
No way of putting it back in its box and let’s hope it’s used for good
That's a key point. Bill Gates' thoughts on it are interesting - "market forces won’t naturally produce AI products and services that help the poorest. The opposite is more likely. With reliable funding and the right policies, governments and philanthropy can ensure that AIs are used to reduce inequity."
https://www.gatesnotes.com/The-Age-of-AI-Has-Begun
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there was a really interesting podcast about how the rise of AI in chess.
self taught AI bots really quickly overtook the human and human programmed chess computers, and found completely different strategies that seemed crazy at first even to chess grandmasters, but now they are utterly untouchable
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Get this new AI working hard on getting buses and trains to run on time , then i will be impressed
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ToTaL ITK
Get this new AI working hard on getting buses and trains to run on time , then i will be impressed
you don't need artificial intelligence for that, just invest properly in public transport.
there are plenty of countries that manage to do it properly
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Brizzlebluebirds
I’m sorry Dave, I’m afraid I can’t do that
Did you spot Leonard Rossiter in the opening scenes?
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tforturton
I'm convinced that half the posts on here are written by AI.
Yes, Al Murray.
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Originally Posted by
PontBlue
AI and Robotics will replace lots of jobs. Even building sites are predicted to be largely human free by the 50s and there's already a robot bricky much quicker than any human and won't knock off at 4pm.
In the short term people working with AI will shrink the needed workforce.
Problems will arise when AI are allowed to rewrite themselves, generate other AI and build things via robotics without human oversight.
It's why universal basic income will become necessary as there won't be enough jobs for everyone.
There are many reasons why a robot bricklayer won’t work.
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splott parker
There are many reasons why a robot bricklayer won’t work.
that's robotics rather than AI but I've seen a few systems that can do that already and they'll only get better with time .
it's probably more resilient to automation than a lot of careers though
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Wash DC Blue
What are people’s thoughts on where we currently are with AI and where we are heading with it?
I’ve used ChatGPT a fair bit over the last few months and it has been very handy for certain tasks that I’d not really relished doing.
It’s alarming some people though to the point of it’s progression being requested to slow or pause for a while.
https://www.reuters.com/technology/a...ge-2023-05-05/
I watched this Tom Scott video a while back and his concerns resonated with me.
https://youtu.be/jPhJbKBuNnA
I've invested in quite a few funds with a heavy AI influence, supposed to be in for a good ten years profits-wise, every cloud and all that!
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Rjk
that's robotics rather than AI but I've seen a few systems that can do that already and they'll only get better with time .
it's probably more resilient to automation than a lot of careers though
As I said, there’s many reasons. Non uniformity is a massive problem for some human bricklayers, a robot would most probably explode:hehe: Programming it to different gauges, perp widths etc to hit openings, head heights etc would most probably be more expensive, equipment wise and time wise, even on times having to build things out of plumb to make it ‘look right’ etc, than just having a human do it.
If every building was set out to exact brick or block gauge both width and height wise, doors & windows, vents, foundations spot on from concrete to damp course level etc there may be a chance, but, trust me, they never, ever are and never will be.
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splott parker
As I said, there’s many reasons. Non uniformity is a massive problem for some human bricklayers, a robot would most probably explode:hehe: Programming it to different gauges, perp widths etc to hit openings, head heights etc would most probably be more expensive, equipment wise and time wise, even on times having to build things out of plumb to make it ‘look right’ etc, than just having a human do it.
If every building was set out to exact brick or block gauge both width and height wise, doors & windows, vents, foundations spot on from concrete to damp course level etc there may be a chance, but, trust me, they never, ever are and never will be.
those things don't actually sound that difficult for robotics to overcome, with enough investment.
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Brizzlebluebirds
I’m sorry Dave, I’m afraid I can’t do that
From one of my all-time favourite films! At least Dave was able to get at the memory modules and pull the plugs.
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Taunton Blue Genie
Did you spot Leonard Rossiter in the opening scenes?
I just googled it... never realised that. And googling it led me down one hell of a rabbit hole of forgotten 70's sitcoms and actors (I was about 3 when Rising Damp came out so can only remember the 80's repeats!).
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PontBlue
It's why universal basic income will become necessary as there won't be enough jobs for everyone.
Ah, the "useless eaters" conundrum.