Surely now even the haters can forgive him ?
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Surely now even the haters can forgive him ?
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We all make mistakes and that was one giant one but time to let bygones be bygones.
Well there it is. An apology for messing with our colours. Surely now we can all forget the rebrand debacle and just let it fade into the history of the club.
Yesterday was a new dawning for us. The club seems to be run much better than it has been since I’ve been supporting them,
Let’s have an end to all the bitterness on here, and infighting between fellow fans. How about we draw a line now and all move forward together.
Yesterday as we were winning promotion, one of the greatest managers of all time was fighting for his life in hospital.
It is after all, only a game. Good luck to Fergie and good luck to us next season.
Maybe it was only yesterday he truly realised how wrong he was. Seeing a united fan base- 32k strong all wearing blue and singing all game then celebrating like he has never seen Cardiff fans celebrate before. Even he seems to admit coming 2nd this time was better than winning it in red.
doesnt matter how, where, when etc. its there in black and white (or 4k). Time to celebrate and move on.
I hope TLG and Thames Valley Blue were there yedterday and will be there next season.
Only one life we have lets not be bitter until the end of time. Enjoy watcging cardiff city and experience more memories.
Come on mate.
Shouldn't be looking for angles here, that's as good as we are going to get and pretty humble if you ask me.
He could just as easily have said nothing and just told us to be greatful for what he's done here.
It should really be enough for anyone with the slightest bit of forgiveness in them.
It would have been more natural if he apologised when he reversed his madness, instead he hid behind his mum. That tells me all I need to know about Tan. A choreographed pitch celebration (carried onto the pitch by "fans" who are club employees)
By the way, I have watched that "apology" so many times - am I looking at the right link because all I see is the rebrand being called a mistake. Usually an apology has words like "sorry" and "regret" and even "apologise".
Today is the 6 year anniversary of the rebrand story breaking on here. Today is the first admission that there was a mistake, but little in the way of an apology.
Are we to wait 6 years for him to convert debt to equity - something he claimed was imminent in February 2016. Is he going to use his money to clear the debts he's accrued, or is he going to use the Sky money? That question would not need to be asked if he was good to his word.
You'll have to point me in the direction of Tan's apology. I haven't seen it. I saw a brief clip from BBC Wales on Twitter last night in which he finally admits he made a mistake with his ridiculous re-brand, but I haven't seen any apologies. If someone has a link to the footage where he apologises to the fans I'd like to see it.
To be honest though, any kind of apology now will be far too little and way too late for me to radically alter my opinion of him. The summer of 2012 seems a very long time ago, as does the return to blue in early-2015. An awful lot of water has gone under the bridge since then and things have changed significantly for me on a personal level during that time. For much of my life, the football club was an all-consuming obsession. Now it is a source of interest and occasional amusement but little else. That situation's unlikely to change any time soon and certainly won't change as a result of any of the Emperor's proclamations, and I'm sure the same is true for plenty of other ex-supporters who were deeply affected by the re-brand and all that went with it.
It's entirely understandable that Tan would want to paint himself in a better light now as he knows full well what a fool he made of himself the last time he was in the global football spotlight. He won't want to embarrass himself again, so any charm offensive is only natural.
Groundog Day alert!!!:hehe:
The next 60 or so posts are really predictable.:hehe:
People have a go at fans who hate him but it's not us bringing him up. Some have forgiven him, some still think he's a ****. Why not just leave it at that lads?
You will always be welcome back down here should you ever change your mind TLG, and that goes for anyone else out there who felt betrayed by the actions of our owner 6 years ago. I hope you can find it within yourself to forgive and forget one day and resume your love affair with the club. Only then would it have come full circle.
Id echo this.
Same for BIS.
Wont be holding my breath as it appears both are taking pedantry to a new level.
Shame as yesterday I can truly say was one of the greatest days I've had as a City fan.
Sad that people who had previously put so much into supporting the club should miss out over something which is just part of our history now.
No more posts on this from me today as it's a time for looking forward not back.
Good luck to you both whatever you decide to do.
:thumbup::thumbup:
:ayatollah:
I'll never forgive and never forget, and that goes for some of the fans as much as the owner. As for the love affair with the club, I'm 100% certain that is over, but I'm also pretty sure I'll actively support City again at some point in the future after Tan has gone.
Pedantry?
I am chuffed for long suffering fans like you - I know all to well the emotions that you have been going through, and will continue to go through. It's disappointing that you cannot grasp the emotions that "ex"-fans are going through. Believe me, it would have been easier to stop supporting Cardiff when we were 90th in the League, or drawing 23 games in one season than it is now. That's also my last post on it today. Today is rebrand day, but it's also a glorious Bank Holiday and I need to finish some gardening before heading to the Bay.
Have a great day folks, well done - particularly to those who understand/appreciate the opposing viewpoint. I seriously think you have a better chance this time around than the last time.
Groundhog day
Good post.
Really don't think it's a good use of anybodies time going over the same old bullshit, there's a very small minority of people who continue to post on this mb that are ex-fans and aren't likely to change their minds.. whatever.. doesn't matter. Their opinions are increasingly irrelevant. The stadium will be packed out next season, and god willing, if we can stay in the top league for a couple of seasons, the debt will be a distant memory also. Onwards and upwards.
Pedantry? Do me a favour, Tim. You started this thread under the title 'Tan's Apology'. The simple fact of the matter is that he hasn't made one, not yesterday and not ever. He's finally admitted he made a mistake but, unless there is footage out there that we haven't seen, he certainly hasn't made an apology.
I appreciate you are desperate for Tan to be seen in a better light and for everyone else to feel about him as you do, but that's never going to happen and claiming he's made apologies when he hasn't is not going to change that.
If it was "common knowledge" it was ill informed common knowledge.
It's all water under the bridge now the guys said he made a mistake let's just let it go now city are in the premier league and in fecking blue how can anyone not be happy about that :ayatollah:
We are on our third foreign owners in four years. Our Russian owner left the club in deep trouble with unpaid tax bills. Our Thai owners moved on after two years having grabbed the land outside the ground. We never see our current Chinese owners.
Tan would not have realised the importance of the playing strip when he made his decision to switch to red. As a successful businessman he will be used to getting his own way so to revert back to blue would have really peed him off. He now admits he made a mistake in the first place.
He has also stuck by the club. All those years of Cardiff City struggling to avoid becoming bankrupt are over. You have had financial stability for a long time now. He deserves credit for that. This is hardly a short term project. He has stuck with it and not tried to flog the club for financial game. He is a better owner than our recent ones. Those that want him out need to be careful for what they wish for.
You either believe in redemption or you don't.
Although for what it's worth, I thought a lot of the stay-aways were more offended by the supporters acceptance of the rebrand than the act itself. I could be wrong, though.
In any case - yesterday was simply a brilliant day to be a City fan. I wasn't at either promotion game, but even so this one looked a hell of a lot more enjoyable.
I was going to bite and give you some examples of why some of us were deeply affected by the re-brand, but then I realised it would be utterly pointless as you're just a thick **** who's not interested in genuine discussion or debate and only wants to irritate people. Therefore, you can go **** yourself.
People need to realise how lucky we are compared to some other owners. Yes he was a complete arse hole when he was first here but he has at least admitted that was a mistake.
It’s a shame we’ve lost quite a few supporters forever, especially as they were some of the more die hard and a few of the better posters on here.
The club right now is more together than I can remember it and for me I can’t be bothered discussing the rebrand over and over again. I respect the opinions of those who can’t forgive Tan but for me he’s done enough to win me round.
To be fair TLG, if the club was an all consuming obsession to you, then Tan has probably done you a favour.
It’s only a game and it’s only a team.
I’m Cardiff born and bred and the City have been my team all my life, and will be till I die, but there are many many more important things in my life than the City.
I’ve spent fortunes over the yrs supporting them, and I’d do it all over again. I’ve never been obsessed with it though.