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Boris tells Ch4 to Four OFF
Boris Johnson refuses to take part in Channel 4 Tory leadership debate
https://www.channel4.com/news/boris-...dership-debate
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Well done Boris it's not as if others ( all parties) haven't refused or been selective on particular TV debates channels .
BBC is the calmer intelligent option with the lively eye rolling Emily Maitlis in charge , she's not likely to take any prisoners.
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The empty chair will make fewer gaffes and racist insults.
Won't stop him being in the last two selected by Tory MPs, and unlikely to influence the 120,000 aged members who will select our next Prime Minister for us.
The main strategy of Johnson's campaign strategists seems to be to put a gag in his gob.
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Originally Posted by
jon1959
The empty chair will make fewer gaffes and racist insults.
Won't stop him being in the last two selected by Tory MPs, and unlikely to influence the 120,000 aged members who will select our next Prime Minister for us.
The main strategy of Johnson's campaign strategists seems to be to put a gag in his gob.
Indeed, I can think of a few parties, who would like to gag thier leader.
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life on mars
Well done Boris it's not as if others ( all parties) haven't refused or been selective on particular TV debates channels .
BBC is the calmer intelligent option with the lively eye rolling Emily Maitlis in charge , she's not likely to take any prisoners.
Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson isn't participating because his team thinks it puts him at an advantage or negates the disadvantage of attending. An example of him putting his career before the wider public, if another one is really needed.
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It's all senseless posturing, and carefully choreographed events anyway come the BBC debate it will be reduced even further and he knows that.
Do like Rory though seems a likale chap who has less ego than the rest .
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In recent years I've often said that nothing surprises me in politics any more, but I was wrong to do so. The fact that it is looking like Boris Johnson is going to be our next Prime Minister (the third one out of the last four who has never properly won a General Election) leaves me totally baffled. I have purposely never fallen into the "everyone who voted for Brexit is an idiot" camp because it is just not true, but if Johnson ends up becoming Prime Minister and enjoys any sort of electoral success then I can only say that there are an awful lot of very thick people in modern day Britain - the what's in it for me party are on the brink of electing the biggest what's in it for me UK politician of them all as their leader, let's just hope they both get all that they deserve.
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the other bob wilson
In recent years I've often said that nothing surprises me in politics any more, but I was wrong to do so. The fact that it is looking like Boris Johnson is going to be our next Prime Minister (the third one out of the last four who has never properly won a General Election) leaves me totally baffled. I have purposely never fallen into the "everyone who voted for Brexit is an idiot" camp because it is just not true, but if Johnson ends up becoming Prime Minister and enjoys any sort of electoral success then I can only say that there are an awful lot of very thick people in modern day Britain - the what's in it for me party are on the brink of electing the biggest what's in it for me UK politician of them all as their leader, let's just hope they both get all that they deserve.
Don’t understand your train of thought Bob
It’s his colleagues voting him in. Not the public.
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William Treseder
Don’t understand your train of thought Bob
It’s his colleagues voting him in. Not the public.
That's why I said enjoys any electoral success.
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the other bob wilson
That's why I said enjoys any electoral success.
The Conservatives have never been voted in up in Scotland, and there are many cities in England that hardly ever vote them in, but as you and I both know, the voting system in the UK is distorted. So even if he does get chosen as leader, and wins a general election, the blame will fall at the feet of a minority., and not “ an awful lot of very thick people in modern day Britain”.
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William Treseder
The Conservatives have never been voted in up in Scotland, and there are many cities in England that hardly ever vote them in, but as you and I both know, the voting system in the UK is distorted. So even if he does get chosen as leader, and wins a general election, the blame will fall at the feet of a minority., and not “ an awful lot of very thick people in modern day Britain”.
Why can't a minority of the population big enough to ensure an election victory not include an awful lot of very thick people?
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the other bob wilson
Why can't a minority of the population big enough to ensure an election victory not include an awful lot of very thick people?
You may have a point 😁
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the other bob wilson
Why can't a minority of the population big enough to ensure an election victory not include an awful lot of very thick people?
Even when you do get a majority vote (aka Brexit ) it seems democracy just stands still, or
Is blocked.
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life on mars
Even when you do get a majority vote (aka Brexit ) it seems democracy just stands still, or
Is blocked.
Blame the Tory ERG for not backing their PM for the reason why Brexit has been blocked.
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CardiffIrish2
Blame the Tory ERG for not backing their PM for the reason why Brexit has been blocked.
And the opposition parties who have voted with the ERG, for the same personal gain.
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life on mars
And the opposition parties who have voted with the ERG, for the same personal gain.
Or maybe because it was a 'shit deal' and would inflict serious damage on the economy and the people of the UK? Just a thought.
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life on mars
And the opposition parties who have voted with the ERG, for the same personal gain.
What personal gain is that?
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life on mars
And the opposition parties who have voted with the ERG, for the same personal gain.
I was waiting for your daily blame the opposition it’s all their fault line.
There we have it 😂😂
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life on mars
And the opposition parties who have voted with the ERG, for the same personal gain.
Why should the opposition back a crap deal? This crisis is all down to the Tories and their pathetic obsession with Europe
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Pearcey3
Why should the opposition back a crap deal? This crisis is all down to the Tories and their pathetic obsession with Europe
Life on Mars or 'life on mars' hasn't made one post in the last 12 months that has made any sense whatsoever.
There needs to be a bot on here to translate what he's saying as I haven't had a clue whether he's a troll, an amazing satirist or a complete idiot. It's impressive... in a way.
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"The Conservative and Unionist Party" - barking mad.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...otland-ireland
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jon1959
Or maybe because it was a 'shit deal' and would inflict serious damage on the economy and the people of the UK? Just a thought.
whats the answer then with a divided country and Parliament without resorting to political allegiance ,it wasn't the end deal it was withdrawal deal to lead to an exit
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Pearcey3
Why should the opposition back a crap deal? This crisis is all down to the Tories and their pathetic obsession with Europe
whats the answer then
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Eric Cartman
What personal gain is that?
GE
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Heisenberg
Life on Mars or 'life on mars' hasn't made one post in the last 12 months that has made any sense whatsoever.
There needs to be a bot on here to translate what he's saying as I haven't had a clue whether he's a troll, an amazing satirist or a complete idiot. It's impressive... in a way.
My agent has been in touch ,thanks for noticing
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Originally Posted by
CardiffIrish2
I was waiting for your daily blame the opposition it’s all their fault line.
There we have it
whats the answer ,how would you unravel this
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the other bob wilson
That does demonstrate how conflicted they are over Europe ,why doesn't Labour ,bugger this lets take the opposite view , it cant ,can it as its held to ransom by its leader and worried that they would lose 26 odd seats to Brexit????????
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life on mars
whats the answer ,how would you unravel this
Well for a start I’d apportion the blame for the fiasco that this has quite rightly occurred at the doorstep of the Conservative party.
We’ve had a general election since last referendum so democracy is ok when they tell us.
Have a second referendum.
Three choices:
1. Leave no deal
2. Remain
3. Leave on Mays deal.
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life on mars
That does demonstrate how conflicted they are over Europe ,why doesn't Labour ,bugger this lets take the opposite view , it cant ,can it as its held to ransom by its leader and worried that they would lose 26 odd seats to Brexit????????
You really think that the main lesson to be learned from that poll is that the Labour leader, and a small number of loyalists, is still unwilling to commit to a definitive position on Brexit?
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the other bob wilson
You really think that the main lesson to be learned from that poll is that the Labour leader, and a small number of loyalists, is still unwilling to commit to a definitive position on Brexit?
No its shows how fragmented they are , they need to take a single policy position of leave or stay , and get of the fence . The Tories had the same divide , that resulted in a removal of its leader as they felt it wasn't in tune with the majority of Tory membership , ( surely the sudden rise of the Brexit party can't be ignored ) The will have a string leave policy if as it seems Boris gets in ??
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CardiffIrish2
Well for a start I’d apportion the blame for the fiasco that this has quite rightly occurred at the doorstep of the Conservative party.
We’ve had a general election since last referendum so democracy is ok when they tell us.
Have a second referendum.
Three choices:
1. Leave no deal
2. Remain
3. Leave on Mays deal.
I don't think anyone really wants a second referendum it would be so undemocratic on a single choice question to now go back and lets be honest in attempt to overturn it.
The Labour party could come out and say s second referendum is their policy ,however I don't think they will ( well not in a clear way ) the Liberals and SNP stance is very clear
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life on mars
I don't think anyone really wants a second referendum it would be so undemocratic on a single choice question to now go back and lets be honest in attempt to overturn it.
The Labour party could come out and say s second referendum is their policy ,however I don't think they will ( well not in a clear way ) the Liberals and SNP stance is very clear
Well I want a second referendum for a start and that sweeping generalisation is worthy of Boris Johnson. As I know you don’t like the Tories as you say you do you need to be careful there.
I’ll call it is as I think it, now we’ve got the facts as we’ve had a proper debate put it back to the people.
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Originally Posted by
CardiffIrish2
Well for a start I’d apportion the blame for the fiasco that this has quite rightly occurred at the doorstep of the Conservative party.
We’ve had a general election since last referendum so democracy is ok when they tell us.
Have a second referendum.
Three choices:
1. Leave no deal
2. Remain
3. Leave on Mays deal.
We are leaving on the 31st October. Make a note of it on your calendar.
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Wales-Bales
We are leaving on the 31st October. Make a note of it on your calendar.
Thanks Boris 👍
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CardiffIrish2
Thanks Boris
:biggrin:
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Originally Posted by
CardiffIrish2
Well I want a second referendum for a start and that sweeping generalisation is worthy of Boris Johnson. As I know you don’t like the Tories as you say you do you need to be careful there.
I’ll call it is as I think it, now we’ve got the facts as we’ve had a proper debate put it back to the people.
And that is right .
So why doesnt part of the Labour party come out clearer on the subject, such as this
" we unilaterally now support a second referendum" ( with no other side comment or strings )
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Boris has been using the 'f' word to someone much closer than Channel 4.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-johnsons-home
Police were called to the home of Boris Johnson and his partner, Carrie Symonds, in the early hours of Friday morning after neighbours heard a loud altercation involving screaming, shouting and banging.
The argument could be heard outside the property where the potential future prime minister is living with Symonds, a former Conservative party head of press.
A neighbour told the Guardian they heard a woman screaming followed by “slamming and banging”. At one point Symonds could be heard telling Johnson to “get off me” and “get out of my flat”.
The neighbour said they recorded the altercation from inside their flat out of concern for Symonds. On the recording, heard by the Guardian, Johnson can be heard refusing to leave the flat and telling Symonds to “get off my ****ing laptop” before there is a loud crashing noise.
Symonds is heard saying Johnson had ruined a sofa with red wine: “You just don’t care for anything because you’re spoilt. You have no care for money or anything.”
The neighbour said: “There was a smashing sound of what sounded like plates. There was a couple of very loud screams that I’m certain were Carrie and she was shouting to ‘get out’ a lot. She was saying ‘get out of my flat’ and he was saying no. And then there was silence after the screaming. My partner, who was in bed half asleep, had heard a loud bang and the house shook.”
I wonder how that will play in the blue-rinse shires?
As the world has gone mad (official) they'll probably love it. Man of the people innit.
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Originally Posted by
jon1959
Boris has been using the 'f' word to someone much closer than Channel 4.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-johnsons-home
Police were called to the home of Boris Johnson and his partner, Carrie Symonds, in the early hours of Friday morning after neighbours heard a loud altercation involving screaming, shouting and banging.
The argument could be heard outside the property where the potential future prime minister is living with Symonds, a former Conservative party head of press.
A neighbour told the Guardian they heard a woman screaming followed by “slamming and banging”. At one point Symonds could be heard telling Johnson to “get off me” and “get out of my flat”.
The neighbour said they recorded the altercation from inside their flat out of concern for Symonds. On the recording, heard by the Guardian, Johnson can be heard refusing to leave the flat and telling Symonds to “get off my ****ing laptop” before there is a loud crashing noise.
Symonds is heard saying Johnson had ruined a sofa with red wine: “You just don’t care for anything because you’re spoilt. You have no care for money or anything.”
The neighbour said: “There was a smashing sound of what sounded like plates. There was a couple of very loud screams that I’m certain were Carrie and she was shouting to ‘get out’ a lot. She was saying ‘get out of my flat’ and he was saying no. And then there was silence after the screaming. My partner, who was in bed half asleep, had heard a loud bang and the house shook.”
I wonder how that will play in the blue-rinse shires?
As the world has gone mad (official) they'll probably love it. Man of the people innit.
I think we need to hear the tapes just to be sure :biggrin:
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life on mars
And that is right .
So why doesnt part of the Labour party come out clearer on the subject, such as this
" we unilaterally now support a second referendum" ( with no other side comment or strings )
I totally agree.
That’s why I ****ed off to vote Plaid in Euros.