So few in the media are willing to point out the Tories benefit sanctions regime costs the taxpayer £153 million more a year to run than it saves.
Attack the poor it’s in their genes.
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So few in the media are willing to point out the Tories benefit sanctions regime costs the taxpayer £153 million more a year to run than it saves.
Attack the poor it’s in their genes.
It's all about demonising those at the bottom so that everyone else who's being squeezed point accusing fingers downwards rather than upwards for themselves becoming poorer in real terms and more indebted. And it's worked a treat. The total JSA annual bill is much less than half of what the UK gives away in foreign aid each year.
We should double benefits
Vast majority of UK households are collecting at least one benefit every week. That's due in no small part to the State Pension being a benefit, and those households number six million. I've had quite a few discussions with random old boys (mostly in boozers) down the years and several expressed surprise and disbelief that they were benefit claimants. A few got a little stroppy too. A testament to how effective the demonising gambit has been on the divide and rule front.
They need to be put to work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
https://twitter.com/Rachael_Swindon/...34466087161856Quote:
Originally Posted by Auntie Andy
:sherlock:
So you are just quoting twitter posts from left wing extremists and agitators?
I thought that came from a report by the National Audit Office....bloody commies!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick
No, I was referring to the OP's original post - A cut and paste job from the twitter account of "Rachaelov Smirnoffski-St Swinderburg" Left wing extremist and agitator.Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
But the question is based on a factual report albeit from 2016. Having damned the messenger what do you think about the facts?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick
I'd prefer the OP try to advance the debate by adding views, opinions and sometimes facts. Cutting and pasting from someone else's twitter account, like some kind of broken record, like its an innate truth doesn't really add much.Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
Wouldn't' you agree Cyril????
It seems to me that you are more interested in going after the OP than discussing the merits of her arguments regardless of source of material. It's no biggie, we all do it to a degree and some that do it even get offended when it happens to them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick
Sometimes facts? Are they the least desirable of the three options? Opinions and views can be argued against. Facts, especially in this case, often can't be. I have to add that it's a particularly good Tory tactic of ignoring facts and attacking the source or reasoning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick
Would you care to comment on the factual stat as mentioned, or would you prefer to ignore it totally and have a pop at the poster instead? One answer makes you appear to be a total dick, while the other forces you into a situation of some awkwardness. Over to you....
She hasn't made any arguments to consider the merit of, though. She has just cut and pasted a comment made by someone on twitter. Not going after anyone, just pointing out hypocrisy where is exists.Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
As you said, however, it's no biggie.
Is it factually correct?? I can only see reports in the left wing press suggesting the figures that the OP cut & paste in the OP. A left wing newspaper stating this figure does not make it factually correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
I will post and quote who the blooody hell I want. Hope that helps.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick
Have that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ent...b090a702a66859
That’s very helpful indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Auntie Andy
Very helpful.
Or maybe that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Auntie Andy
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/s...enefit-9361944
COFOG FY 2016
Spending
[+] Pensions 154.7
[+] Health Care 138.5
[+] Education 84.8
[+] Defence 44.8
[–] Welfare 113.6
[+] Family and children 15.7
[+] Unemployment 2.7
[+] Housing 4.0
[+] Social exclusion n.e.c. 31.6
[+] R&D Social protection 0.0
[+] Social protection n.e.c. 59.7
[+] Protection 29.9
[+] Transport 27.8
[+] General Government 13.8
[+] Other Spending 17.0
[+] Interest 45.9
[+] Balance 0.0
[+] Total Spending 762.3
[+] Public Net Debt 1,602.6
[+] Current Budget Deficit 38.9.
Over to you young , chancellors ,fix the above, you have 3 years to do so ,forget your political allegiances, pretend it's your money .
Christ what an a holeQuote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
No he's not going to answer it because he has tied himself up in knots , the blokes a clownQuote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Where's the income column? There's where the work is needed.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Like you tied yourself up in knots on your deluded housing policy thread where you spouted utter lies and complete bollocks throughout. You did not - because you could not - come back with one answer where I proved you wrong, wrong and then wrong again on everything that you posted in your thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Clown? Look in the mirror Coco.
No you didn't you posted a load of nonsense , they are all in it together , the vale council are corruptQuote:
Originally Posted by Nick
You have been leathered again on this thread you porky old tory tart
No point talking sense on here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
You’re not wrong there, mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Cartman
Last official national debt figure I saw at the end of last year was just shy of £1.8 trillion.
This live debt clock has it above £2 trillion. http://www.nationaldebtclock.co.uk/
In November 2017, UK public sector net debt was £1,790.4 billion equivalent to 87.2% of GDP: https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/3...national-debt/