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Think this is going to happen. Apart from his sexual peccadilloes, absences from the Welsh team, lack of charisma and unpopularity with a lot of Welsh fans, seems like the ideal choice. I actually think it's worth a go.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42292823
It wouldn't surprise me what's hiddink doing these days
The more I think of Giggs and compare it to how I thought of Coleman the more I see that if he does get I will just give him every chance . Wouldn't be my choice but Coleman wouldn't have been either.
Sounds increasingly like it might happen.
I suppose timing is fairly on our side, nothing major imminent, perhaps give him a go. If he is not up to it, I guess he won't be around too long.
I think Wales should think hard and long before taking
a leap with an fairly in experienced manager as Giggs, who was number two with Coleman ?
I'm warming to the idea.
Osian Roberts. He would be my choice, he’s got experience, is respected by the players, fans and his peers, and wouldn’t disrupt the tightness and unity of the squad. Preferably with Craig Bellamy as assistant.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Mark Hughes might be in the job centre come Monday
No thanks, he’s in the same bracket as Moyes, Pardew et alQuote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Trollope was a highly regarded coach. Shit manager.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry Shitpeas
Why put Roberts in a position he may not be good at, may not want and ruin what he's been brilliant at, developing youngsters?
Because Trollope was a crap manager, that doesn’t mean that OR would be.Quote:
Originally Posted by ccfc_is_my_life
Isn't that the point Wales has a batch of youngsters still learning and developing, who better to grow with them ?Quote:
Originally Posted by ccfc_is_my_life
Bingo :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry Shitpeas
Bonus Ball 👍Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Osian must stay whatever. I was hoping he wouldn't throw his hat in the ring cause getting looked over for a job might be enough reason to leave to be a tech somewhere else.
Coleman was my choice, though I was doubting it after around 6 games in.Quote:
Originally Posted by joecity
Of the Welsh candidates, Giggs is way behind Osian or Carl Robinson for me.
Osian Roberts for me too. He has been crucial in the past few years and must not be lost to the national team.
It's a tough one. I just want the best man for the job. That might not be a Welshman. I love Osh n the fact that he speaks Welsh makes me like him even more but being hard headed I wondering if we shouldn't keep all options oQuote:
Originally Posted by Blue in the Face
Sorry mate my phones a bit shot. All options open I was gonna say.. Like unearthing a Marco Silva type. As much of a gamble as the names being banded about.Quote:
Originally Posted by joecity
I’d go with this train of thought if Giggs gets the gig.Quote:
Originally Posted by joecity
If he were to take the job and get us to the next Euro finals, then that would go a long way to him making up for missing so many games as a player.
As you say, when Coleman took over there was mass disappointment amongst the fans, but look what he ended up achieving.
Osian should stay in his present job finding and developing young players and coaches as his only managerial experience is in the Welsh League with Giggs replacing Coleman with Bellamy as his assistant. Those who say he has no experience,he was assistant manager at Man Utd one of biggest clubs in world for 3years and caretaker for 4 games. He can also get free advise from Sir Alex whenever required?
Gary Speed was assistant manager of Sheffield Utd for only a year before getting Welsh job and Coleman's record as a Manager wasn't brilliant and Mark Hughes has no Managerial experience but like Giggs and Bellamy had respect of players because they have been there and done it at the highest level.
Do you remember OGSQuote:
Originally Posted by Ianto13
OGS was only reserve team manager at Man Utd, Giggs three years as assistant was with 1st Team managing top players not kids?
Osian has managed. He has also trained all of the other favourites on the list.
Giggs with Osian as assistant is the winning formula without a doubt.
OGS also spent about three years as manager of Molde before he came to City. I’d say he was much more qualified to manage then than Giggs is even now, four years later.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ianto13
Giggs is probably bottom of my list of ideal candidates to take the Wales manger job. I hate a gut feeling he will be as clueless and inept as Ole 'the Useless One' was for us.
For me it is a toss up between Bellamy and Henry
What experience has Henry got?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Soul '68
None whatsoever. Neither has Bellamy. Just think Giggs would be a waste of time and space. How many ex Fergie players have been great managers?? As I said, "I have a gut feeling he will be as clueless and inept as Ole 'the Useless One' was for us". Infact, he could turn out to be a great manager, and I'd end up eating humble pie. What I like about this message board are the opinions expressed on it, and like assholes, we all have one.Quote:
Originally Posted by William Treseder
If you are thinking of Wales taking on a manager, maybe you are thinking that we should employ a manager with the most games under his belt, as a manager then??
Bellamy with Osian as assistant for me
Isn't he involved with the Belgian national side?Quote:
Originally Posted by William Treseder
Bellamy has shied away from managing sides. His interest may well be working with youth players to develop them, that's not managing at an international football level.Quote:
Originally Posted by City123
We need to get away from the "must be Welsh" bs and get the best available manager wanting the job that can take this crop of players onwards.
How about chris coleman?
just a thought ?
Bellamy publicly declared his interest in the jobQuote:
Originally Posted by ccfc_is_my_life
We probably couldn't afford anyone with a decent reputation, we got beat by Sunderland financially for Coleman
My worry is that it would undoubtedly affect the work he currently does. Paul Trollope was a good coach for us but an awful manager, mainly because he was no longer doing the things that he was best at.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry Shitpeas
Good assistants rarely become good managers. Bryan Kidd, Peter Taylor, Paul Trollope (needed Lawrence at Bristol R). An assistant manager is "one of the lads", and stepping up to being a manager means that your relationship with players changes. Are there many recent examples of a manager being promoted from assistant at the same club and doing a good job?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
Ex-Fergie players don't make great managers. My theory is that, quite often, when you have a strict dad, you become a nice dad when it's your turn. I think that's what happened with a few at Man U - and I think Giggs was "bullied" or "intimidated" more by Fergie than any other player. I think a few people would groan if Giggs was lined up as Warnock's replacement. I don't think Giggs has a "stronger together" type attitude, and has displayed selfish tendencies in many aspects of his life.
Henry - he would use Wales as a stepping stone to club management.
Bellamy - he would, also, but I think he would see out a contract. He would get the best out of players, and he talks well on TV. He seems to be taking in a lot of football these days too. Bellamy would be my choice, again with Roberts as assistant.
Bruce,Keene and Mark Hughes of Ferge's fledglings have all been successful managers in Premiership? I can only think of one of ours that really made it as a manager, Tosh and we turned him down ?
Yeah look how shit speed and Hughes were.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Assistants making poor managers is one of the worst thought out cliches in football. There are so so many famous examples of assistants who turn into top managers that I can't be bothered to start a list.
If people know from first hand experience that they think Giggs, or Henry, or Bellamy would make a good candidate for the hotseat then fair enough. But to me they would all be a huge stab in the dark in an era where we should not be gambling. Osian is so clearly the obvious candidate to me. But what he needs is the right assistant. Preferably a good man motivator.