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Streams for the game??? Errrrr, no
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Re: Streams for the game??? Errrrr, no
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Originally Posted by
Kris
VPN mutha fukkerrrrrr.
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Re: Streams for the game??? Errrrr, no
How can someone justify the cost - e.g a regular football fan watches a couple of games on the weekend and the odd Champions League or cup game when that's on.
Sky Sports - £27.50
BT Sport - £22.99
= £50.49 per month to watch around 10-12 live football matches. That's £605 per year to watch 120-144 matches. Around a quarter where you will be at the pub or similar anyway.
No thank you. 👍🏻
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Re: Streams for the game??? Errrrr, no
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Originally Posted by
Zenith
How can someone justify the cost - e.g a regular football fan watches a couple of games on the weekend and the odd Champions League or cup game when that's on.
Sky Sports - £27.50
BT Sport - £22.99
= £50.49 per month to watch around 10-12 live football matches. That's £605 per year to watch 120-144 matches. Around a quarter where you will be at the pub or similar anyway.
No thank you.
The issue is that people happily pay it, you hear people saying, i could spend £500 on a season ticket to watch 23 matches a season or i could pay £600 and watch 150, and that would be the top matches around Europe.
People in this country consume football on TV, they pay a premium for it, and SKY and BT then pay forever increasing sums, for coverage.
People complain that fans who attend are treated badly, however we created a system where the person at home paying his subscription is more important than the fan that attends. We are getting the treatment that football fans in the UK demand.
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Re: Streams for the game??? Errrrr, no
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Originally Posted by
Kris
You shouldnt worry, the Merthyr games will still be streamed through an Italian satellite.
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Re: Streams for the game??? Errrrr, no
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Originally Posted by
Zenith
How can someone justify the cost - e.g a regular football fan watches a couple of games on the weekend and the odd Champions League or cup game when that's on.
Sky Sports - £27.50
BT Sport - £22.99
= £50.49 per month to watch around 10-12 live football matches. That's £605 per year to watch 120-144 matches. Around a quarter where you will be at the pub or similar anyway.
No thank you. 👍🏻
How much does it cost to watch Cardiff over 46 games a season? I remember paying a total of £200 to watch the semi final and final of the FA Cup at Wembley. If I had my two kids at the time, it would have cost me about £500 in tickets alone (not to mention being forced to get a season ticket early).
A dad and his two sons getting to watch 2 games every weekend for £7 a week ? Show me a top level club that offers anything better than that deal.
Yes, you can watch it in the pub- that would be fantastic because too many pubs are closing down.
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Re: Streams for the game??? Errrrr, no
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Originally Posted by
Jimmy the Jock
You shouldnt worry, the Merthyr games will still be streamed through an Italian satellite.
I pay for everything I watch. Stealing is never right.
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Re: Streams for the game??? Errrrr, no
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Originally Posted by
Kris
How much does it cost to watch Cardiff over 46 games a season? I remember paying a total of £200 to watch the semi final and final of the FA Cup at Wembley. If I had my two kids at the time, it would have cost me about £500 in tickets alone (not to mention being forced to get a season ticket early).
A dad and his two sons getting to watch 2 games every weekend for £7 a week ? Show me a top level club that offers anything better than that deal.
Yes, you can watch it in the pub- that would be fantastic because too many pubs are closing down.
Actually both Liverpool and Hull offer adult tickets for selected games from £9. There is no comparison with watching a football match at the ground and from the sofa. The price of football in this country is wrecked, but to justify £50 a month to watch a few football games on the tele is excessive (if you are the average working man that is).
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Originally Posted by
Zenith
Actually both Liverpool and Hull offer adult tickets for selected games from £9. There is no comparison with watching a football match at the ground and from the sofa. The price of football in this country is wrecked, but to justify £50 a month to watch a few football games on the tele is excessive (if you are the average working man that is).
I agree, nothing beats being in the stadium. But, attending is very expensive especially with kids. An average working man can pay 40 quid to watch a Championship game with his kids. One game. Or, for £50 he can access a match most nights from the English leagues, Spanish Leagues, German leagues, World Cup etc.
You're asking how can BT and Sky justify charging £22 and £28 a month. How can Ipswich justify charging £30 for a single ticket?
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Re: Streams for the game??? Errrrr, no
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Originally Posted by
Kris
You're asking how can BT and Sky justify charging £22 and £28 a month. How can Ipswich justify charging £30 for a single ticket?
They can't really justify it. Probably part of the reasons why they only have a half full stadium every week.
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My biggest issue with these Kodi boxes is that if we all did it then there would be nothing to illegally stream. With films for example, if law abiding citizzens didn't pay to watch films on tv or in the cinema then people wouldn't be making films. So it's all well and good for a minority of people using these boxes to say the production companies are still making millions but why should some people get to enjoy these things free of charge while others are funding the prouction of them in the first place?
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Re: Streams for the game??? Errrrr, no
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Originally Posted by
jnc90
My biggest issue with these Kodi boxes is that if we all did it then there would be nothing to illegally stream. With films for example, if law abiding citizzens didn't pay to watch films on tv or in the cinema then people wouldn't be making films. So it's all well and good for a minority of people using these boxes to say the production companies are still making millions but why should some people get to enjoy these things free of charge while others are funding the prouction of them in the first place?
Hadn't thought of that. I'm with Kriz now.
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Some games that you would otherwise have to pay for are shown free on German free-to-air satellite channels.
Just wang up a satellite dish, buy a cheap receiver and Bob's your uncle.
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Originally Posted by
Taunton Blue Genie
Some games that you would otherwise have to pay for are shown free on German free-to-air satellite channels.
Just wang up a satellite dish, buy a cheap receiver and Bob's your uncle.
Subhuman scum.
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Does anyone still religiously watch football on the telly? I binned Sky years ago because I didn't watch every game and couldn't justify it, I don't miss it at all, had the Chelsea/Man U game on the other night but didn't give it my undivided attention. I don't feel I'm missing out at all, perhaps it's an age thing where we were only used to the odd game every now and then. Watch the City home & away is enough for me, more than enough sometimes!
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the tv companies have dictated what is happening in football and have done for years , there stranglehold as just got tighter as the years have gone by , but while ever people pay into it and subscribe nothing will change . i along with many others long for the days when everybody kicked off at 3,oclock on a saturday afternoon, when the fa cup was not treated like meaningless second rate competition .
when fans could afford to go every week , without having to take out a second mortgage to buy a season ticket , when grounds had proper atmostpheres and not like funeral parlours like most have become , when players did not earn monopoly money before they could shave properly and can retire well before there career is finished . when a managers aim with a club was to try and win a trophy instead of trying to survive in the premier league because of the money lost if they dropped down a division the list is endless.
but of course this is never going to happen :thumbup:, because sky tv and the rest have turned the game around to suit themselves , and if you do not like it you can always switch off , the problem is the country as too many fans who will put up with anything providing they can watch their team live at the game and pay through the nose for the priveledge, or sit at home or in the pub and line the television companies pockets. :thumbup:
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Re: Streams for the game??? Errrrr, no
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Originally Posted by
chris
the tv companies have dictated what is happening in football and have done for years , there stranglehold as just got tighter as the years have gone by , but while ever people pay into it and subscribe nothing will change . i along with many others long for the days when Leeds were famous and actually won matches, when the fa cup was not treated like meaningless second rate competition .
Bless.
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Originally Posted by
itkman
Subhuman scum.
You are too kind.
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Re: Streams for the game??? Errrrr, no
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Originally Posted by
Kris
Regardless of the rights or wrongs, there'll always be those one step ahead and will circumvent any blocks.
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Re: Streams for the game??? Errrrr, no
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Originally Posted by
splott parker
Does anyone still religiously watch football on the telly? I binned Sky years ago because I didn't watch every game and couldn't justify it, I don't miss it at all, had the Chelsea/Man U game on the other night but didn't give it my undivided attention. I don't feel I'm missing out at all, perhaps it's an age thing where we were only used to the odd game every now and then. Watch the City home & away is enough for me, more than enough sometimes!
Perhaps rugby is more your thing?
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Re: Streams for the game??? Errrrr, no
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Originally Posted by
chris
the tv companies have dictated what is happening in football and have done for years , there stranglehold as just got tighter as the years have gone by , but while ever people pay into it and subscribe nothing will change . i along with many others long for the days when everybody kicked off at 3,oclock on a saturday afternoon, when the fa cup was not treated like meaningless second rate competition .
when fans could afford to go every week , without having to take out a second mortgage to buy a season ticket , when grounds had proper atmostpheres and not like funeral parlours like most have become , when players did not earn monopoly money before they could shave properly and can retire well before there career is finished . when a managers aim with a club was to try and win a trophy instead of trying to survive in the premier league because of the money lost if they dropped down a division the list is endless.
but of course this is never going to happen :thumbup:, because sky tv and the rest have turned the game around to suit themselves , and if you do not like it you can always switch off , the problem is the country as too many fans who will put up with anything providing they can watch their team live at the game and pay through the nose for the priveledge, or sit at home or in the pub and line the television companies pockets. :thumbup:
Why is this imbecile still allowed to post on our board?
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Re: Streams for the game??? Errrrr, no
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Originally Posted by
Jimmy the Jock
Why is this imbecile still allowed to post on our board?
Care in the community?
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Re: Streams for the game??? Errrrr, no
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Originally Posted by
jnc90
My biggest issue with these Kodi boxes is that if we all did it then there would be nothing to illegally stream. With films for example, if law abiding citizzens didn't pay to watch films on tv or in the cinema then people wouldn't be making films. So it's all well and good for a minority of people using these boxes to say the production companies are still making millions but why should some people get to enjoy these things free of charge while others are funding the prouction of them in the first place?
Another way I look at it, if you were in a shop would you walk out with some items without paying for them? If not, but you saw some other people doing it, would you then do it? If not, why do you do it with TV? Is it because you're at home, and you've somehow justified theft because there isn't a physical product, or that the product is being stolen from the comfort of your armchair.
If that is the reason, would you fiddle your gas/electric meters? Why is it ok to steal TV, but not ok to steal electric, gas, or water?
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Originally Posted by
Steve R
Bless.
you dont even go to games most of the time ya muppet :hehe:
i bet you long for the days when you were not chained to the kitchen sink. :hehe:
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Re: Streams for the game??? Errrrr, no
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Originally Posted by
Jimmy the Jock
Why is this imbecile still allowed to post on our board?
why are you allowed to post on this board eh :wave: , apart from calling for people to be banned your like lecter a sad case . if people dont agree with walling tossers like you up in scotland . then dont get upset ok .:hehe::wave:
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Re: Streams for the game??? Errrrr, no
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Originally Posted by
Kris
is that the same blocking that they do with torrents ? ? ?
just checking ? ? ?
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Re: Streams for the game??? Errrrr, no
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Originally Posted by
splott parker
Does anyone still religiously watch football on the telly? I binned Sky years ago because I didn't watch every game and couldn't justify it, I don't miss it at all, had the Chelsea/Man U game on the other night but didn't give it my undivided attention. I don't feel I'm missing out at all, perhaps it's an age thing where we were only used to the odd game every now and then. Watch the City home & away is enough for me, more than enough sometimes!
I think we are around the same age, so maybe it is a factor, but I'm with you on this. I think I'm "footballed out" when it comes to the game on television - there have been three high profile games on over the past three nights and I've not watched more than twenty minutes of any of them because none of them kept my attention. It's the same with any evening game shown live on TV unless City or Wales are playing - I'll watch more of some than others, but I never watch the full ninety minutes of any of them.
I still love football, but not the way it's televised, there's far too much of it for me. Hopefully, packing in Sky will see me enjoying what televised football I get to watch as much as I used to in the days before Murdoch turned it into the routine event that it is now.
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Re: Streams for the game??? Errrrr, no
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Originally Posted by
Kris
Another way I look at it, if you were in a shop would you walk out with some items without paying for them? If not, but you saw some other people doing it, would you then do it? If not, why do you do it with TV? Is it because you're at home, and you've somehow justified theft because there isn't a physical product, or that the product is being stolen from the comfort of your armchair.
If that is the reason, would you fiddle your gas/electric meters? Why is it ok to steal TV, but not ok to steal electric, gas, or water?
^^^This.
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Re: Streams for the game??? Errrrr, no
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Originally Posted by
Kris
Another way I look at it, if you were in a shop would you walk out with some items without paying for them? If not, but you saw some other people doing it, would you then do it? If not, why do you do it with TV? Is it because you're at home, and you've somehow justified theft because there isn't a physical product, or that the product is being stolen from the comfort of your armchair.
If that is the reason, would you fiddle your gas/electric meters? Why is it ok to steal TV, but not ok to steal electric, gas, or water?
shit analogy! It's not stealing, if i take something from a shop it isn't there anymore. However sharing a movie its still available, nobody is missing out. And if revenue streams start to dry up as people stop going to the cinema then these chancers might start thinking about making something good rather than the continuous garbage they put out just for the sake of it to rip people off and make vast amounts of money in the process!
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Originally Posted by
OurManFlint II
shit analogy! It's not stealing, if i take something from a shop it isn't there anymore. However sharing a movie its still available, nobody is missing out. And if revenue streams start to dry up as people stop going to the cinema then these chancers might start thinking about making something good rather than the continuous garbage they put out just for the sake of it to rip people off and make vast amounts of money in the process!
You're deluded mate. It's stealing, end off.
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Do people still climb over walls to watch a football match?
(not us in Cardiff, obviously :hehe: )
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Re: Streams for the game??? Errrrr, no
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Originally Posted by
OurManFlint II
shit analogy! It's not stealing, if i take something from a shop it isn't there anymore. However sharing a movie its still available, nobody is missing out. And if revenue streams start to dry up as people stop going to the cinema then these chancers might start thinking about making something good rather than the continuous garbage they put out just for the sake of it to rip people off and make vast amounts of money in the process!
The analogy stands in my opinion. The ability for the producers, distributors and vendors to make a profit is still damaged with each illegal download or stream. The propensity to sell that product to a third party is gone.
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Originally Posted by
Ring_Peace
The analogy stands in my opinion. The ability for the producers, distributors and vendors to make a profit is still damaged with each illegal download or stream. The propensity to sell that product to a third party is gone.
Not really as those that watch football or movies would not buy the product, so there was no market originally. Plus that arguments doesn't stand up as movie, music and football are turning record profits year on year despite the ease in which you can watch, and cinema visiting figures have been on the rise since the 80's.
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I give sky £850 (was £1200 till discount) a year and that isn't even with sports or movies so I lose no sleep about streaming.
What does this revenue do anyhow? Seems like it makes mediocre footballers and actors multi-millionaires as far as I can see.
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Re: Streams for the game??? Errrrr, no
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Originally Posted by
OurManFlint II
shit analogy! It's not stealing, if i take something from a shop it isn't there anymore. However sharing a movie its still available, nobody is missing out. And if revenue streams start to dry up as people stop going to the cinema then these chancers might start thinking about making something good rather than the continuous garbage they put out just for the sake of it to rip people off and make vast amounts of money in the process!
It IS stealing.
Stealing - a person is guilty of theft if he dishonestly appropriates property belonging to another with the intention of permanently depriving the other of it.
Property includes intangible property. In the eyes of the law.
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Originally Posted by
Richyrich
I give sky £850 (was £1200 till discount) a year .
:yikes:
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Originally Posted by
Richyrich
I give sky £850 (was £1200 till discount) a year and that isn't even with sports or movies so I lose no sleep about streaming.
What does this revenue do anyhow? Seems like it makes mediocre footballers and actors multi-millionaires as far as I can see.
Why does the effect of the revenue justify streaming? Do you try to watch Cardiff for nothing because Noone is earning too much.
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Originally Posted by
Gofer Blue
:yikes:
I pay £600 a year with movies and sport and HD. He must be paying for broadband too?
I spend £80 a week at Tesco, using his logic I should steal a loaf of bread every week and lose no sleep because they are getting £4K a year from me!
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Originally Posted by
OurManFlint II
Not really as those that watch football or movies would not buy the product, so there was no market originally. Plus that arguments doesn't stand up as movie, music and football are turning record profits year on year despite the ease in which you can watch, and cinema visiting figures have been on the rise since the 80's.
Nonsense. I have no intention of buying a bottle of rum when I go shopping. I like rum, I can steal it because I like it and it's not theft because I would not buy the product?
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Originally Posted by
Gofer Blue
:yikes:
That is for unlimited broadband and multiroom as well.:-)