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Shaping up for war in Europe
With the Russians getting friskier by the day, France under constant attack and on the verge of bringing in an extreme right government, Muslims in Europe facing the kind of dehumanising press the Jews received prior to WW2, Turkey and the middle east turning into shit soup, Britain leaving the union but renewing Trident... could we be on the brink of something nasty in the coming decade?
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Re: Shaping up for war in Europe
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Originally Posted by
Colonel Cærdiffi
With the Russians getting friskier by the day, France under constant attack and on the verge of bringing in an extreme right government, Muslims in Europe facing the kind of dehumanising press the Jews received prior to WW2, Turkey and the middle east turning into shit soup, Britain leaving the union but renewing Trident... could we be on the brink of something nasty in the coming decade?
Well it will liven up the news coverage , its so bland these days , so miss those old war newsreels .
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
Well it will liven up the news coverage , its so bland these days , so miss those old war newsreels .
Do you also miss the draft and rationing?
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France is descending into militarized state ruled by fear, it wont be long before we are heading down the same road, Tridant is a waste of space and money too, we are being destroyed from within by our infested government so it's not much use to us.
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Originally Posted by
Colonel Cærdiffi
With the Russians getting friskier by the day, France under constant attack and on the verge of bringing in an extreme right government, Muslims in Europe facing the kind of dehumanising press the Jews received prior to WW2, Turkey and the middle east turning into shit soup, Britain leaving the union but renewing Trident... could we be on the brink of something nasty in the coming decade?
Is that you Gluey?
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Wales-Bales
Is that you Gluey?
yes i was gleuy al along
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I've just finished watching Band of Brothers so reckon I'd be pretty good at it.
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Originally Posted by
TruBlue
I've just finished watching Band of Brothers so reckon I'd be pretty good at it.
:hehe: I wanted to be a dancer when I saw Dirty Dancing.
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Originally Posted by
Mrs Steve R
:hehe: I wanted to be a dancer when I saw Dirty Dancing.
Nobody sticks Mrs R in the corner........
(apparently that is a similar line from the film, so someone just told me......) :getscoat:
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TruBlue
Nobody sticks Mrs R in the corner........
(apparently that is a similar line from the film, so someone just told me......) :getscoat:
:hehe:
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Colonel Cærdiffi
I carried a watermelon
:hehe:
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It would explain why Boris was appointed foreign secretarty, to help get the war started a bit earlier.
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I fear for my kids and their kids .
I put the blame on the Thatcherites and the Blairites and if it kicks off while I am still alive I will do a pre emptive strike on those responsible.
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Smoothoppa Razor
I fear for my kids and their kids .
I put the blame on the Thatcherites and the Blairites and if it kicks off while I am still alive I will do a pre emptive strike on those responsible.
don't be so over dromatic pal.
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Originally Posted by
Colonel Cærdiffi
With the Russians getting friskier by the day, France under constant attack and on the verge of bringing in an extreme right government, Muslims in Europe facing the kind of dehumanising press the Jews received prior to WW2, Turkey and the middle east turning into shit soup, Britain leaving the union but renewing Trident... could we be on the brink of something nasty in the coming decade?
You forgot to mention Chinese expansion in the South China Sea.
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People who know better than me about these things say that we came pretty close to a World War 3 during the Cuban missile crisis in the early sixties. I was too young to realise what was happening at the time and, anyway, I get the feeling that the ordinary man and woman in the street had little idea of how serious things became, but what we are living through now strikes me as the most dangerous period since the age where I was able to make some sort of educated judgment on matters like this - i.e. about 1970.
There was plenty to be concerned about during the EU referendum, but one of the worst aspects of it for me was that it led plenty of credence to my theory that we are suffering from a lack of credible political leaders in this country at the moment - actually, I don't think there are too many worldwide either. I don't see it as a party political matter, accomplished leaders and statesmen/women just don't seem to be there at a time when we most need them.
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Lets not forget that within about four months we could have a complete fruit loop sitting in the White House.
I think war in Europe is a tad overdramatic, but it does concern me that the extrem right wing appear to be gaining more and more support across Europe, and the USA.
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There's been conflict of some kind going on somewhere in the world at every minute of every day since "our" war ended in 1945.
About time we caught up?
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
Is that you Gluey?
IT is the doom predictions of Gluey. That lady wouldnt be happy until impending doom was at her door.
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
People who know better than me about these things say that we came pretty close to a World War 3 during the Cuban missile crisis in the early sixties. I was too young to realise what was happening at the time and, anyway, I get the feeling that the ordinary man and woman in the street had little idea of how serious things became, but what we are living through now strikes me as the most dangerous period since the age where I was able to make some sort of educated judgment on matters like this - i.e. about 1970.
There was plenty to be concerned about during the EU referendum, but one of the worst aspects of it for me was that it led plenty of credence to my theory that we are suffering from a lack of credible political leaders in this country at the moment - actually, I don't think there are too many worldwide either. I don't see it as a party political matter, accomplished leaders and statesmen/women just don't seem to be there at a time when we most need them.
I'm not so sure the Cuban missile crisis was quite so dramatic. It's been portrayed in Western media as a victory for freedom and Kennedy, but all that happened was in return for the missiles leaving Cuba, the USA agreed to remove missiles from Turkey. There was never any threat from either country and they were 'talking' to each other throughout..
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
People who know better than me about these things say that we came pretty close to a World War 3 during the Cuban missile crisis in the early sixties. I was too young to realise what was happening at the time and, anyway, I get the feeling that the ordinary man and woman in the street had little idea of how serious things became, but what we are living through now strikes me as the most dangerous period since the age where I was able to make some sort of educated judgment on matters like this - i.e. about 1970.
There was plenty to be concerned about during the EU referendum, but one of the worst aspects of it for me was that it led plenty of credence to my theory that we are suffering from a lack of credible political leaders in this country at the moment - actually, I don't think there are too many worldwide either. I don't see it as a party political matter, accomplished leaders and statesmen/women just don't seem to be there at a time when we most need them.
I can't remember who said it but I'm sure I remember a quote that once there is nobody left alive who remembers living through the last world war then we will find ourselves in the next one.
It certainly seems like our current trajectory is towards a less safe Europe
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bobh
There's been conflict of some kind going on somewhere in the world at every minute of every day since "our" war ended in 1945.
About time we caught up?
We've been at war for 100 years
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/n...rs-of-conflict
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
It would explain why Boris was appointed foreign secretarty, to help get the war started a bit earlier.
Maybe it's the opposite of 1938, and we're just too ready for war at the moment.
Might as well use up those Trident nukes now, then we won't have to spend the money renewing them (there'll be no one left to bomb). Win win.
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Taunton Blue Genie
You forgot to mention Chinese expansion in the South China Sea.
The South China Sea is a huge flashpoint. The Philippines recently won their case in the Hague, but China have stated that they do not recognise the ruling. There are American military in the area, and the Philippines has just elected a new leader who may, very well, decide to side with China anyway - because the recent court case was brought forward by his predecessor.
The new Philippine president is an interesting character to say the least and I recommend that people read up on what has been happening there in the last 3 weeks, particularly their clamp-down on drug lords and drug dealers.
If anything is going to "kick off" it will be in the South China Sea, or the Middle East. The American elections are the key event of the next 6 months.
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Originally Posted by
Barry Dragon
IT is the doom predictions of Gluey. That lady wouldnt be happy until impending doom was at her door.
Why do you call him a lady?
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
People who know better than me about these things say that we came pretty close to a World War 3 during the Cuban missile crisis in the early sixties. I was too young to realise what was happening at the time and, anyway, I get the feeling that the ordinary man and woman in the street had little idea of how serious things became, but what we are living through now strikes me as the most dangerous period since the age where I was able to make some sort of educated judgment on matters like this - i.e. about 1970.
There was plenty to be concerned about during the EU referendum, but one of the worst aspects of it for me was that it led plenty of credence to my theory that we are suffering from a lack of credible political leaders in this country at the moment - actually, I don't think there are too many worldwide either. I don't see it as a party political matter, accomplished leaders and statesmen/women just don't seem to be there at a time when we most need them.
Politicians are polished now, with about 5 ready made jokes and soundbites to answer any journalist. They have little substance, and it shows.
I don't think we're on the verge of WW3, personally speaking. But, I think there are lots of little fireworks ready to go off in various parts of the world.
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Ainsley Harriott
Maybe it's the opposite of 1938, and we're just too ready for war at the moment.
Might as well use up those Trident nukes now, then we won't have to spend the money renewing them (there'll be no one left to bomb). Win win.
On the subject of trident, why are we renewing it?
Do the old ones have a use by date like orange juice?
More importantly, why can't we just pretend and tell people we've renewed? Who will actually know if we've renewed them or not?
Even more importantly, how does anyone know they even work? It's not like you can try before you buy.
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The early to mid 80s were pretty scary times, especially with Reagan with his very anti Soviet and Evil Empire rhetoric. Plus I saw a documentary a few years back, about how the Soviets were on the brink of setting their Nuclear Arsenal on us, because their computer systems malfunctioned and they thought they were being attacked by NATO. The fella on duty that day was later fired, because he never pressed the alarm to inform his superiors that NATO were attacking. His gut instinct was that something was not right and he was proved correct.
A big difference between now and the 80s though, is that Putin takes no crap. Back in the 80s the Soviets had very old unwell men, like Brezhnev, Chernenko and Andropov in charge, who probably didn't have a clue what was going on.
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Agreed. It's like the alarm boxes on the outside of houses. I am sure many of them are empty, but they are visually a deterrent to burglars
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Originally Posted by
Barry Dragon
IT is the doom predictions of Gluey. That lady wouldnt be happy until impending doom was at her door.
The lady has obviously made a prediction having made a detailed analysis of world events, and then applied her crititacal thinking skills.
Do you believe all analysts want their predictions to come true? How about the economic analylists predicting a banking collapse? Do you really think they want it to happen, even though it will feck up their own lives?
You Sir are a cull dunt :hehe:
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Wales-Bales
The lady has obviously made a prediction having made a detailed analysis of world events, and then applied her crititacal thinking skills.
Do you believe all analysts want their predictions to come true? How about the economic analylists predicting a banking collapse? Do you really think they want it to happen, even though it will feck up their own lives?
You Sir are a cull dunt :hehe:
Perhaps you know, why does he call you woman?
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Mrs Steve R
Perhaps you know, why does he call you woman?
cos he's a massive "c u next tuesday" :hehe:
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Packerman
cos he's a massive "c u next tuesday" :hehe:
Inspector Clouseau to the rescue :hehe:
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Packerman
cos he's a massive "c u next tuesday" :hehe:
:yikes: :hehe:
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Mrs Steve R
:yikes: :hehe:
It's the first time I've seen him express an opinion on here :hehe:
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Mrs Steve R
:hehe: I wanted to be a dancer when I saw Dirty Dancing.
Blimey!
I knew Patrick Swayze worked out for 'that lift'............but, blimey.....
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Wales-Bales
It's the first time I've seen him express an opinion on here :hehe:
Not getting involved :hehe:
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Tall Midget
Blimey!
I knew Patrick Swayze worked out for 'that lift'............but, blimey.....
Shaping up for war are you? :hehe:
"Erdogan announces 3 month state of emergency in Turkey after coup attempt"
https://www.rt.com/news/352361-turke...gency-erdogan/
Another 3 months that will never be lifted either :hehe:
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Mrs Steve R
Shaping up for war are you? :hehe:
Do you have your finger on the button, then.....
....if only you could find it....
lol
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Originally Posted by
Tall Midget
Do you have your finger on the button, then.....
....if only you could find it....
lol
I'm no Theresa May.. thank god.