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Andy Campbell on Dave Jones
Tweeted last night after DJs appointment as Hartlepool manager -
Biggest wanker in football. Some of the things he said to me were awful and I'll take them with me for life.
Guess they didn't get on then.
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Probably bollocked him for scoring 5 goals in about 60 matches. Must be hard being a manager and trying to keep players happy even when you don't play them. Bothroyd and Chopra loved playing for him
Same with Malky some players loved him and players like Parkin and Gerrard hated him.
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Croesy Blue
Probably bollocked him for scoring 5 goals in about 60 matches. Must be hard being a manager and trying to keep players happy even when you don't play them. Bothroyd and Chopra loved playing for him
Same with Malky some players loved him and players like Parkin and Gerrard hated him.
Campbell also wasn't DJ'S signing so would have had to prove himself again (again?!) and he wouldn't get as many chances as he did under Lennie.
Sour grapes from AC which is understandable as nobody likes to be left on the scrapheap.
There are of course 2 sides to every story but like him or not, I suspect Dave Jones has a bit more class than to call people names on twitter.
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MacAdder
Campbell also wasn't DJ'S signing so would have had to prove himself again (again?!) and he wouldn't get as many chances as he did under Lennie.
Sour grapes from AC which is understandable as nobody likes to be left on the scrapheap.
There are of course 2 sides to every story but like him or not, I suspect Dave Jones has a bit more class than to call people names on twitter.
Plus if anyone was a wanker then Campbell would be high on the list.
I know he scored the goal in the play off final (still think it may have been a mis hit cross) but apart from that he had nothing about him and I remember regularly saying I cannot understand how he became a professional footballer :facepalm:
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DubaiDai
Plus if anyone was a wanker then Campbell would be high on the list.
I know he scored the goal in the play off final (still think it may have been a mis hit cross) but apart from that he had nothing about him and I remember regularly saying I cannot understand how he became a professional footballer :facepalm:
Really?
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DubaiDai
Plus if anyone was a wanker then Campbell would be high on the list.
I know he scored the goal in the play off final (still think it may have been a mis hit cross) but apart from that he had nothing about him and I remember regularly saying I cannot understand how he became a professional footballer :facepalm:
His goals when he was on loan got us into the play-offs.
Earnie was second choice behind him for a while, often coming on as sub.
Then Earnie became rather good at getting the odd goal or ten, and AC was forever in Earnie's shadow.
Another example of a player good on loan, then shite once he got a permanent contract?
AC never regained his scoring touch, and the missed pelanty vs Leeds was diabolical.
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DubaiDai
Plus if anyone was a wanker then Campbell would be high on the list.
I know he scored the goal in the play off final (still think it may have been a mis hit cross) but apart from that he had nothing about him and I remember regularly saying I cannot understand how he became a professional footballer :facepalm:
He made his name at Middlesbro, scoring against (the then very strong) Man Utd in the cup when they knocked them out. Despite that, I remember the Boro fans being delighted that he was coming to us. :hehe:
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bobh
His goals when he was on loan got us into the play-offs.
Earnie was second choice behind him for a while, often coming on as sub.
Then Earnie became rather good at getting the odd goal or ten, and AC was forever in Earnie's shadow.
Another example of a player good on loan, then shite once he got a permanent contract?
AC never regained his scoring touch, and the missed pelanty vs Leeds was diabolical.
The worst penalty I have ever seen a City player take, sadly
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DubaiDai
Plus if anyone was a wanker then Campbell would be high on the list.
I know he scored the goal in the play off final (still think it may have been a mis hit cross) but apart from that he had nothing about him and I remember regularly saying I cannot understand how he became a professional footballer :facepalm:
To who? It was clearly a shot, it comes right off the laces for starters.
He's a nice bloke though and says what DJ said to him went well beyond what was acceptable, which I can believe.
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Pedro de la Rosa
To who? It was clearly a shot, it comes right off the laces for starters.
He's a nice bloke though and says what DJ said to him went well beyond what was acceptable, which I can believe.
Doesnt detract from the fact he was a lazy good for nothing "footballer"
I remember him whining in the echo that he was being shut out. He got played and showed no interest what so ever.
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Mr Soul '68
The worst penalty I have ever seen a City player take, sadly
Take it you never saw Don Murrey's non-effort :hehe::hehe:
The balls still in orbit.
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Spoke to Andy a few times, A nice bloke and just wanted to play football
If he says DJ was horrid to him, my guess is that he was, lets be honest, Jones man-management ideas where terrible
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blue matt
Spoke to Andy a few times, A nice bloke and just wanted to play football
If he says DJ was horrid to him, my guess is that he was, lets be honest, Jones man-management ideas where terrible
Campbell was a disgrace. Couldn't be bothered most of the time.
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Mr Soul '68
The worst penalty I have ever seen a City player take, sadly
I'm sure you're talking about the one in the 0-0 draw with Leeds in 2005. Campbell's career was in a steep decline by then and Dave Jones didn't arrive at City for another eight months or so - there may be another reason why he has such a low opinion of the surly scouser, but he's deluding himself if he thinks he was harshly treated by him.
That said, there's no way his Play Off Final goal was a mishit cross - it was probably as good a finish as he ever produced in a City shirt.
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Taunton Blue Genie
Campbell was a disgrace. Couldn't be bothered most of the time.
not disputing that fact
not sure he had found his level with us, he was not upto the job on a regular basis
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DubaiDai
Plus if anyone was a wanker then Campbell would be high on the list.
I know he scored the goal in the play off final (still think it may have been a mis hit cross) but apart from that he had nothing about him and I remember regularly saying I cannot understand how he became a professional footballer :facepalm:
:hehe: Wtf???
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bobh
His goals when he was on loan got us into the play-offs.
Earnie was second choice behind him for a while, often coming on as sub.
Then Earnie became rather good at getting the odd goal or ten, and AC was forever in Earnie's shadow.
Another example of a player good on loan, then shite once he got a permanent contract?
AC never regained his scoring touch, and the missed pelanty vs Leeds was diabolical.
This is true - he was great when he was on loan (did he score 8 goals in 9 games or something?) and then suddenly became rubbish when we signed him for nearly £1m I think which is/was a lot of money.
It is sad that he feels it necessary to publically slate Jones like that and makes me wonder what WAS said between the two?
The other thing that I noted from his Twitter account is the photo of him in the England U21 team that included:
Rio
Gerrard
Barry
Heskey
Lampard
Dyer
Carragher (I think)
I'd be bitter too......
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Jimmy the Jock
Doesnt detract from the fact he was a lazy good for nothing "footballer"
I remember him whining in the echo that he was being shut out. He got played and showed no interest what so ever.
Campbell still cares enough about the club to mention us regularly, and without him we possibly wouldn't have gone up. Regardless of how he played he scored a vitally important goal for the club. Also, that might have been his playing style, and the fact he wasn't up to much.
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BLUETIT
Take it you never saw Don Murrey's non-effort :hehe::hehe:
The balls still in orbit.
Ahhh, wasn't at that game. It was a school night, and I was too young to be taken down the City
I did chat to Don about that infamous penalty about three years back, at a Cardiff City exhibition, and ex City player question and answer session, at the old library on the Hayes. Quite frankly, I think he is still embarrassed about it all these years later. A top bloke is Don :thumbup:
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Nobody going to mention his small head?
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the other bob wilson
I'm sure you're talking about the one in the 0-0 draw with Leeds in 2005. Campbell's career was in a steep decline by then and Dave Jones didn't arrive at City for another eight months or so - there may be another reason why he has such a low opinion of the surly scouser, but he's deluding himself if he thinks he was harshly treated by him.
That said, there's no way his Play Off Final goal was a mishit cross - it was probably as good a finish as he ever produced in a City shirt.
I read all of the tweets last night from Campbell, he claims DJ said something "disgusting" to him that went "beyond football", and describes their relationship as "hate-hate". Campbell's loan spell (and that finish) were the bright sparks in his career, he just wasn't very good. Who knows what would have happened without his finish in the Play Off Final though, so he was worth his fee off the back of that alone.
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[QUOTE=the other bob wilson;4711992]I'm sure you're talking about the one in the 0-0 draw with Leeds in 2005. Campbell's career was in a steep decline by then and Dave Jones didn't arrive at City for another eight months or so - there may be another reason why he has such a low opinion of the surly scouser, but he's deluding himself if he thinks he was harshly treated by him.
Yes, that's the penalty I am on about (I think). Taken at the Canton End. Campbell's body language as he picked the ball up and readied himself to take it, spoke volumes to me. He looked and acted like he rather be anywhere else, and in any other position than having to take that penalty. To all intents and purposes it looked like he had lost all confidence in himself. I just new he was not going to score, and thus it proved, with such a damp squib of a kick. I've never seen a City player so NOT want to a penalty kick.
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the other bob wilson
I'm sure you're talking about the one in the 0-0 draw with Leeds in 2005. Campbell's career was in a steep decline by then and Dave Jones didn't arrive at City for another eight months or so - there may be another reason why he has such a low opinion of the surly scouser, but he's deluding himself if he thinks he was harshly treated by him.
That said, there's no way his Play Off Final goal was a mishit cross - it was probably as good a finish as he ever produced in a City shirt.
Yes it was against Leeds Bob, Cambell was very low on confidence at the time and when he stepped up to take it I think the whole crowd gasped and I think he sensed it. Must admit I felt sorry for him that day, he just never connected with the ball. As for Dave Jones, met him just the once when he was promoting his book in Southampton, lets just say he wasn't very communicative? lol. Done a good job with us but just couldn't take us over the line
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DubaiDai
Plus if anyone was a wanker then Campbell would be high on the list.
I know he scored the goal in the play off final (still think it may have been a mis hit cross) but apart from that he had nothing about him and I remember regularly saying I cannot understand how he became a professional footballer :facepalm:
A miss-hit cross? Who to? There was no one in front of him bar the goalie.
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NYCBlue
A miss-hit cross? Who to? There was no one in front of him bar the goalie.
Yup, all our players were still in our own half.
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the other bob wilson
I'm sure you're talking about the one in the 0-0 draw with Leeds in 2005. Campbell's career was in a steep decline by then and Dave Jones didn't arrive at City for another eight months or so - there may be another reason why he has such a low opinion of the surly scouser, but he's deluding himself if he thinks he was harshly treated by him.
That said, there's no way his Play Off Final goal was a mishit cross - it was probably as good a finish as he ever produced in a City shirt.
As bad as it was, at least he took the responsibility. We were in a bad run at the time and everyone else scarpered.
Maybe he doesn't delude himself about being released but there are ways and means of going about it. Campbell (whilst on loan) came across as quite arrogant but later this appeared to be a front and was perhaps an attempt to compensate for a basic lack of confidence. I imagine there are plenty of blokes working in football who have little sympathy for such a mentality, and wouldn't be surprised if DJ was one of them.
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We don't know what happened at all; he could be speaking about something that could horrify us or make us shrug and not really understand why he's got so upset so many years after leaving DJ's company. That he's a bit far away from the top striker thread doesn't really matter.
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blue matt
not disputing that fact
not sure he had found his level with us, he was not upto the job on a regular basis
It was his lack of effort that I most remember. He used to shrug rather than run for a ball that wasn't passed to his feet.
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BLUETIT
Take it you never saw Don Murrey's non-effort :hehe::hehe:
The balls still in orbit.
And that was a bloody shoot-out decider in a ECWC game!
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dave jones is a surly ****
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old blue
Yes it was against Leeds Bob, Cambell was very low on confidence at the time and when he stepped up to take it I think the whole crowd gasped and I think he sensed it. Must admit I felt sorry for him that day, he just never connected with the ball. As for Dave Jones, met him just the once when he was promoting his book in Southampton, lets just say he wasn't very communicative? lol. Done a good job with us but just couldn't take us over the line
My distinct memory was that a lot of the crowd were audibly groaning that AC was even taking the penalty. And a fair few noisily barracking. Good start!
The pen was in front of the Family stand and the groaning was audible from where i stood in the Grange (which was subdued - for the Grange)
It was as if everyone knew what was going to happen .. which probably contributed to it happening. As everybody then, of course, knew that it would.
Campbell then ran past the goal and kicked the hoarding in frustration.
I don't even recall seeing him in a league game after that.
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Bluebirdman Of Alcathays
As bad as it was, at least he took the responsibility. We were in a bad run at the time and everyone else scarpered.
Maybe he doesn't delude himself about being released but there are ways and means of going about it. Campbell (whilst on loan) came across as quite arrogant but later this appeared to be a front and was perhaps an attempt to compensate for a basic lack of confidence. I imagine there are plenty of blokes working in football who have little sympathy for such a mentality, and wouldn't be surprised if DJ was one of them.
I would be more inclined to believe that if he had not achieved what he did at Middlesbrough early in his career when he looked at home in the Premier League. It turned out that he was not quite good enough to build a career there in the top division, but my reaction on hearing that he was joining us on loan as a League One club was "Why? He's too good for us."
I've more sympathy for him with that penalty though - the impression I got was the same one as a few on this thread, he looked like he didn't want to take it, so, if that were true, why didn't one of the other players take the responsisbility - think Kav was suspended for that game.
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the other bob wilson
I've more sympathy for him with that penalty though - the impression I got was the same one as a few on this thread, he looked like he didn't want to take it, so, if that were true, why didn't one of the other players take the responsisbility - think Kav was suspended for that game.
wasnt the whole team on a bit of a slump at the time
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When Andy Campbell signed for us on loan, at that time I had never seen pace like it. He could give the defenders a few yards and simply breeze past them. He had a decent finish to boot and after that loan spell we had to sign him.
After he signed he just wasn’t the same player. By the time Jones came here his Cardiff Career was finished. Campbell had to sit on his big contract (he pretty much went non-league after us), Jones wanted rid to bring in players using the part of the budget Campbell was taking up.
In this situation its easy to see why they didn’t like each other, one is looking at a player free loading, taking the easy option, and the other is not liking his life being made hard for him.
Either way there is no real shock or story in this.
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the other bob wilson
I would be more inclined to believe that if he had not achieved what he did at Middlesbrough early in his career when he looked at home in the Premier League. It turned out that he was not quite good enough to build a career there in the top division, but my reaction on hearing that he was joining us on loan as a League One club was "Why? He's too good for us."
Saying that, we've had a few Premier League youngsters over the years that we thought we were lucky to have, then they turned out to be utter gash with us before fizzling away in the lower divisions or even out of the league. A recent Wales Online quiz reminded me of Kerrea Gilbert - an ex Arsenal full back with Champions League experience, who got rave reviews for us. He's still only 28 has certainly not had the career predicted of him having moved to Slovakia to continue a career that had nosedived to non-league status rather rapidly.
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Eric the Half a Bee
Saying that, we've had a few Premier League youngsters over the years that we thought we were lucky to have, then they turned out to be utter gash with us before fizzling away in the lower divisions or even out of the league. A recent Wales Online quiz reminded me of Kerrea Gilbert - an ex Arsenal full back with Champions League experience, who got rave reviews for us. He's still only 28 has certainly not had the career predicted of him having moved to Slovakia to continue a career that had nosedived to non-league status rather rapidly.
Gilbert looked outstanding at first, and then after "PM Dudders" he dropped out of the side and his career nose-dived. Not too dissimilar to our season, 3 points clear in November and ended up finishing 13th with 1 point from our last 8 games, and one win in our last 11.
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Pedro de la Rosa
Gilbert looked outstanding at first, and then after "PM Dudders" he dropped out of the side and his career nose-dived. Not too dissimilar to our season, 3 points clear in November and ended up finishing 13th with 1 point from our last 8 games, and one win in our last 11.
I think that I'm the only one here who DIDN'T manage to find out the content of 'PM Dudders'
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Bollocks to all this
Did Campbell ever thank Andy Legg for the superb assist.
The best assist in our clubs history.:thumbup: