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Claimed the other day he lost a close friend at the Hillsborough tragedy.
Turns out he made that up completely.
A couple of years ago I'd have said that that would be enough to bring down any politician, but these days I'm not so sure.
Will he front it out? And if he goes who can lead UKIP?
I predict UKIP will be replaced by a new political party.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
Aimed at the right wing working class?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Brexit friendly :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
Given Milibum got publicly shamed for eating a bacon sandwich I think there is a chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
If you get the rep of a liar it is poisonous for a politician. UKIP sell themselves as being honest to the working man.
Politics should be like football. If somebody is performing badly, substitutions should be allowed during the game. Focussing on individuals is bad for democracy.Quote:
Originally Posted by LordKenwyne
Having seen some of the labour campaign literature used in Stoke it looks very UKIPPY to me. Flag of st Georges everywhere and little mention of Corbyn, Flabbot and co.
I doubt it'd work but back in ancient athens you used to have 1 year as the leader. Then everyone would vote and if they didn't like you could get this:Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
http://www.ancient.eu/Ostracism/
That is how you'd stop abuses of power!.
Think he's spot on about loose women tbfQuote:
Originally Posted by ninianclark
You are losing the plot.Quote:
Originally Posted by ninianclark
Cloth cap and jackboots?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
Here is the big question , will he beat Labour in Stoke ????????????
NopeQuote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
There seems to be a move to try to make some sort of equivalency between slagging off loose women and trying to use the Hillsborough tragedy for your own political gain and then lying about it when caught.Quote:
Originally Posted by ninianclark
To be honest, you're coming across as a bit of an apologist. There seems little doubt that the claims were made by him - they are on his own website, he has form for lying about his past and blaming a press officer (claimed he has a PhD and played for Tranmere on LinkedIn) and he made the same Hillsborough claims in another interview with the BBC.Quote:
Originally Posted by ninianclark
What he's done is pretty disgusting and none of your excuses for him (someone else sent some stupid texts, maybe he didn't really say it, he's a scouser too, everyone has regrets) wash.
Perhaps people should be less nailed to their parties and make decisions about who is genuine in their beliefs, who will stand up for their constituency and who ideas are best?Quote:
Originally Posted by ninianclark
I don't think anyone should defend sexist tweets, although often people involved in a political party are more sensitive when it comes from an opposing candidate, or use religion to push people into voting for one candidate and I would hope that it's a trick that will backfire, though that seems unlikely considering Trump used the same tactics to win an election. I am 90% certain that Paul Nutall has also said that he was at Hillsborough so he shouldn't be allowed to sidestep it by claiming he didn't release or approve of that statement. Whether it's something you can accept as a voter is a different matter.
I think it'll be renamed the "but what about labour" partyQuote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
:hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
Those odds are a week old not that the bookies have a clue.Currently Labour are 2/5 and UKIP at 6/4 so Lab clear favourites.I think Nuttall is helping their campaign.The Labour candidate sems a bit of a fool.Quote:
Originally Posted by ninianclark
It looks like Labour will lose Copeland to the Tories though.
What a dilemma for Stoke On Trent, if its true about either its poor , labour have been very vocal about Trump sexism so why not deal with this internally , Nuttall is summed up by the first three alphas of his name, obliviously a very disillusion warped character, from a warped party ,however as someone pointed out political blindness exists in so many people , no matter what one says or does they vote because of deep routed class divide/bigotry/past emotions ,which is madness ??Quote:
Originally Posted by ninianclark
Well there were a handful of different comments in your post about how it's not so bad, what about this, etc. That's just how it comes across.Quote:
Originally Posted by ninianclark
Two completely different people making up completely different stuff about him and putting it on his own pages without him knowing, without him ever coming across it and saying "hold on...", or without anyone who knows him closely mentioning it to him. Quite a coincidence, isn't it?
Word is from Stoke that the Lib Dem candidate, a local Muslim doctor (A real one unlike Nuttall) is doing very well and hoovering up the Muslim vote (both votes per Muslim as per Tower Hamlets) and the remainer vote. Sounds like UKIP may sneak past through the back door.
I think Nuttall has gone too far with this one and will pay dearly he chose to lie about something that is still a very open sore.
Vote Paul Nutjob :thumbup:
😂😂Quote:
Originally Posted by goslow
:hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R
UKIP resignations on Merseyside in response to the crass lies and insensitivity of Nutjob and friends.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...gh-controversy
Oh dear. never mind.
UKIP have created a ridiculous caricature of the working class and for some reason people believe it :shrug:
Also, Paul Nuttall is a disgrace for not only his comments (which weren't just on a website, he's repeated them on television) but also for allowing (forcing) his press officer to take the blame for his actions