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Perhaps we should increase their aid
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Presumably you stopped reading after the first sentence and missed the second one
"All but three of the satellites are from foreign countries, most of them from the United States."
I can't imagine they'd be launching 96 US satellites for the sheer fun of it.
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Is this the same country that has an advanced space program, which is spending billions on it, which has nothing to do with launching foreign satellites?
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Igovernor
Is this the same country that has an advanced space program, which is spending billions on it, which has nothing to do with launching foreign satellites?
You do realise that the Space program benefits ordinary people?
http://www.economist.com/blogs/econo...ist-explains-0
This article may appease you.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/i...w/50388300.cms
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I don't think British people can claim to be short changed by the Indians. The empire was built on their backs!.
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LordKenwyne
I don't think British people can claim to be short changed by the Indians. The empire was built on their backs!.
That argument is a bit outdated matey. We haven't had an Empire since the end of the 2nd WW. It was one of the main reasons that the good ol' USA joined in on our side, that Britain would dismantle it's empire. Both Roosevelt and Truman knew the yanks would only be a major world player once our Empire and Commonwealth was over.
If you want to moan about the empire back in the day, why not go further back and blame those foul froggies for invading in 1066 and putting us under the Norman yoke. Or before that, those nasty vikings for raping and pillaging along the north east coast of England
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Mr Soul '68
That argument is a bit outdated matey. We haven't had an Empire since the end of the 2nd WW. It was one of the main reasons that the good ol' USA joined in on our side, that Britain would dismantle it's empire. Both Roosevelt and Truman knew the yanks would only be a major world player once our Empire and Commonwealth was over.
If you want to moan about the empire back in the day, why not go further back and blame those foul froggies for invading in 1066 and putting us under the Norman yoke. Or before that, those nasty vikings for raping and pillaging along the north east coast of England
Indians haven't forgotten. I can assure you that.
And we aren't talk centuries upon centuries ago, so why go that far back?. East India didn't end 600 years ago. It isn't outdated, India is still fully feeling the affects of the British stealing everything from them.
The British government have always been corrupt and sending money to the leaders in India is no different.
India are flying ahead of us so now it us who must suck up to them.
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Then why all the billions we give in aid, stop it now I say:thumbup:
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Igovernor
Then why all the billions we give in aid, stop it now I say:thumbup:
Have you bothered to read anything beyond the first paragraph of your link?
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LordKenwyne
Indians haven't forgotten. I can assure you that.
And we aren't talk centuries upon centuries ago, so why go that far back?. East India didn't end 600 years ago. It isn't outdated, India is still fully feeling the affects of the British stealing everything from them.
The British government have always been corrupt and sending money to the leaders in India is no different.
India are flying ahead of us so now it us who must suck up to them.
They're flying ahead of us in the shitting in the street and dying of preventable disease stakes.
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LordKenwyne
Indians haven't forgotten. I can assure you that.
And we aren't talk centuries upon centuries ago, so why go that far back?. East India didn't end 600 years ago. It isn't outdated, India is still fully feeling the affects of the British stealing everything from them.
The British government have always been corrupt and sending money to the leaders in India is no different.
India are flying ahead of us so now it us who must suck up to them.
Exactly. India would be a world superpower, far wealthier than China, if it hadn't been pillaged by the Brits. The fact that there is poverty in the country is still, in part, a result of British occupation.
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Colonel Cærdiffi
They're flying ahead of us in the shitting in the street and dying of preventable disease stakes.
Yep living conditions are horrendous. But our expectations are higher. And they make do.
But with the number of people there and how cheap production is, they will/have decimated European manufacturing.
"Make In India" or whatever they call it. The UK is an end user now for most things. Not the end of the world as the UK cannot compete but things are changing rapidly.
After brexit we'll have to try to find a niche otherwise we'll become weaker and weaker.
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Kris
Have you bothered to read anything beyond the first paragraph of your link?
He's never read past the headline in any article, he has form for being a reactionary simpleton
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Croesy Blue
He's never read past the headline in any article, he has form for being a reactionary simpleton
He's also posted another thread about this subject on the dark side
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
I suppose the queen could always give back the Koh-I-noor diamond from her crown, must be worth 100 million
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Croesy Blue
He's never read past the headline in any article, he has form for being a reactionary simpleton
you calling me a simpleton, :hehe: you have got to be one of the dullest posters on here, as i am sure many posters will confirm :thumbup:
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Igovernor
you calling me a simpleton, :hehe: you have got to be one of the dullest posters on here, as i am sure many posters will confirm :thumbup:
We need a POLL.
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Well at least their trains are more efficient
https://i.imgur.com/aQXVPRz.gif
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[QUOTE=tigerbaybluebird;4719093]He's also posted another thread about this subject on the dark side
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
glad to see that you read the dark side:thumbup:
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lardy
We need a POLL.
Graham?
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Colonel Cærdiffi
Their population is massive because they don't pull out on time.
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There is a reason for everything , mostly driven by , political influence, trade sales (us to them ), old colonial peaceful friend , good security allay with a dodgy border countries, able to use their land as a base if needed etc etc .
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life on mars
There is a reason for everything , mostly driven by , political influence, trade sales (us to them ), old colonial peaceful friend , good security allay with a dodgy border countries, able to use their land as a base if needed etc etc .
Ye. It is why the Americans have always been so pathetic with Pakistan.
They are allies so let them do whatever the hell they want. It is buying influence.
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Igovernor
you calling me a simpleton, :hehe: you have got to be one of the dullest posters on here, as i am sure many posters will confirm :thumbup:
I doubt many posters on here even know who I am since I post about twice a week.
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Croesy Blue
I doubt many posters on here even know who I am since I post about twice a week.
Cant be sure, but he may have mistaken you for our long lost pal with a similar name....
Or maybe he just doesn't like you.
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LordKenwyne
Ye. It is why the Americans have always been so pathetic with Pakistan.
They are allies so let them do whatever the hell they want. It is buying influence.
You speculate to accumulate , there is a bigger picture,beyond the land, especially post Brexit
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Perhaps someone could explain the statement by another poster, that how putting a man in space will benefit the population in India
and also how much of the money India gets for putting foreign satellites into orbit will benefit the people, just look at how much money they have spent on the man in space project and that was what was spent over 3 years ago, want to guess how much that figure is today?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...e-mission.html
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Igovernor
Perhaps someone could explain the statement by another poster, that how putting a man in space will benefit the population in India
and also how much of the money India gets for putting foreign satellites into orbit will benefit the people, just look at how much money they have spent on the man in space project and that was what was spent over 3 years ago, want to guess how much that figure is today?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...e-mission.html
That's in my direction.
I didn't mention anything about putting a man into space.
Come back when you have read what I have posted, how the space program benefits India, and how the UK government is cutting aid to India to appease people like you. And, guess what, despite the UK reducing aid to India your tax payments for the coming year will be the same, or higher, than last year.
What is it about helping people that are less fortunate than you are that offends you so much?
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For goodness sake, I am all for helping people less fortunate than myself, if fact I do, but my point is, why give money to a government that does not use it for the benefit of their unfortunate population, but spends on a space program to put men in space. I am all for the part of a space program that gets money in by putting foreign satellites in space, but do you think that that money is being spent to benefit the unfortunates in India?, I personally don't think so. One last point which is very relevant, the Indian government has stated on many occasions that they do not want our aid and they do not need it, but still we keep giving it to them ????
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Igovernor
For goodness sake, I am all for helping people less fortunate than myself, if fact I do, but my point is, why give money to a government that does not use it for the benefit of their unfortunate population, but spends on a space program to put men in space. I am all for the part of a space program that gets money in by putting foreign satellites in space, but do you think that that money is being spent to benefit the unfortunates in India?, I personally don't think so. One last point which is very relevant, the Indian government has stated on many occasions that they do not want our aid and they do not need it, but still we keep giving it to them ????
OK, let's wind back a bit. The UK announced that they will not be giving any more aid to India.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-34398449
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/i...w/50388300.cms
Do you have any data/evidence that the money the UK was sending to India in aid was going directly to the space program, and was not being used to help the people?
Here is an article (2 years old, but I can't imagine things have changed that much) on how UK Aid is benefiting members of various communities.
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...d-9691982.html
"Myth 3: We’ve been giving aid for years, it doesn’t work
In 20 years, the number of people living on less than £1 a day halved from 43% of the world's population in 1990, to 21% in 2010. Add that to the 10m boys and girls who went to school last year because of UK aid, as well as the 48 million children immunised from preventable diseases such as pneumonia and diarrhoea..."
"Myth 5: We give aid to wealthy countries
The two classics of these myths are China and India. In reality, the UK gave no aid to China last year, and in the case of India, the countries aid budget has fallen four-fold over the last four years, with the majority focusing on health and enabling Indian citizens to improve their rights to land and housing. Last year, the UK’s top priorities were Ethiopia, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Nigeria, where as many as 68% of the countries' populations live on less than a £1 a day"
How many men have India sent into space?
India's biggest problem is that many people work without paying any tax, because they are not "formally" employed. You're looking at the satellite program as dollars and pounds and rands. You're failing to acknowledge that the satellite program IS benefiting members of the country by improving communications, improving weather monitoring (in a place where weather kills many), improving agriculture and fishing (in a country where famine is too common).
You are correct, India has said they no longer want aid - but instead welcome foreign investment.
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You have me convinced, lot more to it than what I read:thumbup:
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Igovernor
For goodness sake, I am all for helping people less fortunate than myself, if fact I do, but my point is, why give money to a government that does not use it for the benefit of their unfortunate population, but spends on a space program to put men in space. I am all for the part of a space program that gets money in by putting foreign satellites in space, but do you think that that money is being spent to benefit the unfortunates in India?, I personally don't think so. One last point which is very relevant, the Indian government has stated on many occasions that they do not want our aid and they do not need it, but still we keep giving it to them ????
Why don't you ever read anything any one posts?
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We are buying influence and trying to create a system that will make us wealthier in the long run not feeding the starving. We love a bit of short term thinking in this country.
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Eric Cartman
We are buying influence and trying to create a system that will make us wealthier in the long run not feeding the starving. We love a bit of short term thinking in this country.
You make it sound so calculated although I mostly agree. Not so long ago the UK came top in the polls for worldwide "soft power" which I'm sure is the only positive poll we would come top in. We seem to be determined to take steps back in this category but foreign aid will be part of it and I'm sure it does more good home and abroad than harm; although we may wish to try and ensure it's spent productively.