Rambo's pelanty... Sublime or Luck?

Crazy debate earlier on Ramseys pel.
Phil Babb reckons he was lucky and got it wrong as if the keeper had guessed the right way he would have saved it. He said that a Panenka should be down the middle as the keeper dives one way or another.

The way is see it...
1) if the keeper had dived the right way, he would not have got it because of the height.
2) Who is to say that Ramsey didn't wait for the dive before picking his spot?
3) What if the keeper didn't dive and Ramsey did try a "proper" Panenka, he'd have made R look a mug.

IMO, it was one of THE great pelanties in its own right and subsequent similar pels will now be known as "The Ramsey" :thumbup:

If Phil Babb had done that it would have been lucky.

The way his foot was as he took the kick suggests to me, quite strongly, that he meant it that way.

Zidane's wasn't straight down middle and that was the greatest panenka imo

What a steaming great pile of bollocks. Of course he meant it! Phil Babbs a tit.

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Originally Posted by Barry Shitpeas

What a steaming great pile of bollocks. Of course he meant it! Phil Babbs a tit.

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He's never been on our coaches :hehe:

Thought Babb was quite anti Welsh tonight and obviously pro ROI can't wait to turn them over last game of campaign !

Good penalty - it went in.

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Originally Posted by surge

Good penalty - it went in.

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I didn't realise the history: http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/f...nalty-13171191

Rambo is a genius.

And (NSASWA) here's what happens when it goes tits up :hehe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CeLuXuHtq8

:hehe::hehe:

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Originally Posted by BlueArmy 86

Zidane's wasn't straight down middle and that was the greatest panenka imo

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Surely Panenkas is the greatest seeing as he was the first to do it and its named after him?

Ramsey said last night that the keeper said to him it was going in the middle... so Ramsey chipped it to the right instead.

One of the best pens I've ever seen. If Messi or Ronaldo did that, the likes of Phil ****ing Babb would be creaming themselves.

I dont know why Phil Babb is getting pelted. It was a light hearted discussion on wether he meant it or not and both him and Saunders, who wasnt 100% sure he meant it either, agreed it doesnt matter because he scored and thats what counts.

Wales fans in faux outrage because non welsh man doesnt think it was the greatest pelanty ever. :shrug:

Keeper moved before, Ramsey put it the other side. Great penalty.

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

I dont know why Phil Babb is getting pelted. It was a light hearted discussion on wether he meant it or not and both him and Saunders, who wasnt 100% sure he meant it either, agreed it doesnt matter because he scored and thats what counts.

Wales fans in faux outrage because non welsh man doesnt think it was the greatest pelanty ever. :shrug:

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To be fair mate, he was pretty crap all night long (including Ireland game)

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Originally Posted by Zenith

To be fair mate, he was pretty crap all night long (including Ireland game)

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I dont disagree but on the subject of the penalty it was nothing more than a light hearted discussion. If anything it was Saunders who was making more of it than Babb.

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

Surely Panenkas is the greatest seeing as he was the first to do it and its named after him?

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World Cup final, clipped the bar and in against Buffon???

So by your logic, the first goal ever scored is the greatest goal over scored cos that guy scored it first?

And his name was John Goal if my memory serves me right :hehe:

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Originally Posted by BlueArmy 86

World Cup final, clipped the bar and in against Buffon???

So by your logic, the first goal ever scored is the greatest goal over scored cos that guy scored it first?

And his name was John Goal if my memory serves me right :hehe:

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Always thought Zidane dodged a bullet with that one. Looked awesome but it only just made it - I can't believe even the great Zidane was trying to get it that close.

Great pelanty, but my favourite Zidane tournament pelanty will always be Euro 2004 in the last minute when he puked just before taking the run up. Can't remember who that was against, let me think...

The Pirlo chip against Joe Hart after deciding he needed to be taken down a peg was one of my favourites

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Originally Posted by BlueArmy 86

World Cup final, clipped the bar and in against Buffon???

So by your logic, the first goal ever scored is the greatest goal over scored cos that guy scored it first?

And his name was John Goal if my memory serves me right :hehe:

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Wouldnt even call that a Panenka tbh. Plus he got lucky, not only did he hit the bar, it only just bounced the right side of the line.

Except it was a panenka and he scored it...

Are you the guy that said he's overrated? :hehe:

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Originally Posted by BlueArmy 86

Except it was a panenka and he scored it...

Are you the guy that said he's overrated? :hehe:

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No im not.

Each to their own but a Panenka for me is when the ball is chipped up and is coming down as it crosses the line, with the keeper stranded, and you know its a goal from the moment it leaves your foot. Its not a penalty that is chipped into the roof of the net, still rising,and for a second or two Zidane is not 100% sure hes scored and his team mates have to appeal for it.

Nowhere near as good as Panenkas or the Pirlo one mentioned above.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXFWmpB-cPQ

Pirlo, King of the 'Panenka'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtE3wprrGIc

The one against England is a thing of beauty, mainly because Pirlo is just cool as **** doing it in a penalty shoot out.
But when you see it in slow mo on that last video, its barely waist height when it crosses the line, the size of bollocks needed to do that with such little pace is incredible.
Watching it live I just remember bursting out laughing at the sheer cheek of it and it still stands out.

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Originally Posted by MacAdder

Crazy debate earlier on Ramseys pel.
Phil Babb reckons he was lucky and got it wrong as if the keeper had guessed the right way he would have saved it. He said that a Panenka should be down the middle as the keeper dives one way or another.

The way is see it...
1) if the keeper had dived the right way, he would not have got it because of the height.
2) Who is to say that Ramsey didn't wait for the dive before picking his spot?
3) What if the keeper didn't dive and Ramsey did try a "proper" Panenka, he'd have made R look a mug.

IMO, it was one of THE great pelanties in its own right and subsequent similar pels will now be known as "The Ramsey" :thumbup:

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I think he tripped and accidentally toed it in

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Originally Posted by lardy

Always thought Zidane dodged a bullet with that one. Looked awesome but it only just made it - I can't believe even the great Zidane was trying to get it that close.

Great pelanty, but my favourite Zidane tournament pelanty will always be Euro 2004 in the last minute when he puked just before taking the run up. Can't remember who that was against, let me think...

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Originally Posted by Charlie

The one against England is a thing of beauty, mainly because Pirlo is just cool as **** doing it in a penalty shoot out.
But when you see it in slow mo on that last video, its barely waist height when it crosses the line, the size of bollocks needed to do that with such little pace is incredible.
Watching it live I just remember bursting out laughing at the sheer cheek of it and it still stands out.

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Its a thing of beauty. Also the fact he says he done it (in so many words) because Joe Hart was being a pr!ck :hehe:

Seeing it again, I can agree Pirlos was better. However you can't say Zidanes wasn't a penanka! He runs up like he's going to welly it and dinks it with finesse. And he doesn't roof it, the trajectory is arched, just maybe the dip was coming a little late. But bar and ins always look better, and no one ever intends to do them. It still doesn't take away from a beautiful goal.

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Originally Posted by BlueArmy 86

Seeing it again, I can agree Pirlos was better. However you can't say Zidanes wasn't a penanka! He runs up like he's going to welly it and dinks it with finesse. And he doesn't roof it, the trajectory is arched, just maybe the dip was coming a little late. But bar and ins always look better, and no one ever intends to do them. It still doesn't take away from a beautiful goal.

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Not purposely disagreeing with you I promise but I dont agree bar and in looks better on a panenka. I think on a panenka the lower the projectory the better.

We will just have to agree to disagree.

Is there anything more frustrating than arguing the definiton of something that hasn't been explicitly defined? Like arguing what world class means, pointless.

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

Is there anything more frustrating than arguing the definiton of something that hasn't been explicitly defined? Like arguing what world class means, pointless.

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Yes. Arguing the definition of the term "Snowflake". Pointless.

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

Yes. Arguing the definition of the term "Snowflake". Pointless.

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No ones argued the definition rather pointed out the flaws in the arguments of the thick and ignorant