-
Wales interview Ryan giggs.
-
Re: Wales interview Ryan giggs.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
dembethewarrior
We'll most probably appoint Bob Bradley now then.
-
Re: Wales interview Ryan giggs.
-
Re: Wales interview Ryan giggs.
Did he turn up for the interview?
Did alex Ferguson say it was OK for him to go?
-
Re: Wales interview Ryan giggs.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
binman
Did he turn up for the interview?
Did alex Ferguson say it was OK for him to go?
Exactly, but it helped him be a Premier league legend though, Right ? ? ?
Not for me, anyone else but him
-
Re: Wales interview Ryan giggs.
The problem that I have with Giggs is not that he seemed to have an ambivalent attitude to playing for Wales, it's that he seems to have no personality.
-
Re: Wales interview Ryan giggs.
Ticks the boxes for me,
Great footballing pedigree.
Most decorated footballer in British football history.
Played under the greatest British manager of all time.
And he is Welsh.
-
Re: Wales interview Ryan giggs.
Whatever happened to Dutch Ray? You'd think that if Bellars really wanted it, the Bellars/Dutch Ray ticket would be the way to go.
-
Re: Wales interview Ryan giggs.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
NYCBlue
Whatever happened to Dutch Ray? You'd think that if Bellars really wanted it, the Bellars/Dutch Ray ticket would be the way to go.
The FAW have probably realised that Dutch Ray is a twat
Surprised to see they've interviewed Mark Bowen
-
Re: Wales interview Ryan giggs.
Craig Bellamy has also been interviewed.
-
Re: Wales interview Ryan giggs.
They were discussing it on Talk Sport earlier. Jim White said every Welshman to a man would be delighted if Giggs got the job. This prompted several phone calls to Jim to let him know this wasnt the case.
Gareth, a proud Welshman by his own admission, called and articulated his point very well, the main point he was making was Giggs was not a commited Welshman because of his lack of friendlies, and he would rather commentate on English games than come to the CCS to watch a Welsh game (Thought this was a bit harsh as he is a pundit for ITV who cover English games not Welsh ones).
He then blew it by saying he was a Liverpool fan but didnt want to listeners to think this was why he was against Giggs, and reiterated that it was because Giggs preffered England to Wales on the basis of his ITV appearance. The irony was clearly lost on him and sadly Perry Groves and Jim White did not pick him up on the faux pas.
Unfortunately I was driving at the time so could not tweet them to call Gareth a hypocrite.
-
Re: Wales interview Ryan giggs.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
They were discussing it on Talk Sport earlier. Jim White said every Welshman to a man would be delighted if Giggs got the job. This prompted several phone calls to Jim to let him know this wasnt the case.
Gareth, a proud Welshman by his own admission, called and articulated his point very well, the main point he was making was Giggs was not a commited Welshman because of his lack of friendlies, and he would rather commentate on English games than come to the CCS to watch a Welsh game (Thought this was a bit harsh as he is a pundit for ITV who cover English games not Welsh ones).
He then blew it by saying he was a Liverpool fan but didnt want to listeners to think this was why he was against Giggs, and reiterated that it was because Giggs preffered England to Wales on the basis of his ITV appearance. The irony was clearly lost on him and sadly Perry Groves and Jim White did not pick him up on the faux pas.
Unfortunately I was driving at the time so could not tweet them to call Gareth a hypocrite.
You actually listen to Talk Shyte ? Wow !:facepalm:
-
Re: Wales interview Ryan giggs.
Still think Osian Roberts is the best man for the job, wouldn't mind Bellamy though and Bowen could be a shrewd appointment, but is he damaged goods currently because of his Mark Hughes connection?
-
Re: Wales interview Ryan giggs.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
Still think Osian Roberts is the best man for the job, wouldn't mind Bellamy though and Bowen could be a shrewd appointment, but is he damaged goods currently because of his Mark Hughes connection?
Osian or Robinson are the only choices that make me feel comfortable. Too many question marks on Bellars at this stage for me and feel we would be going in blind if we were to appoint him. Would be fascinated to see how he does with a club job first. Though it's interesting that you back him as you are one of the few people to actually watch a team that he has managed... Bowen has always impressed as a pundit.
-
Re: Wales interview Ryan giggs.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
BlueWales
You actually listen to Talk Shyte ? Wow !:facepalm:
Not usually but I had a 4 hour drive from Hertfordshire so tuned in
-
Re: Wales interview Ryan giggs.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
Not usually but I had a 4 hour drive from Hertfordshire so tuned in
I've had iron throughout today as it's a change from the loop of same songs on the radio.
-
Re: Wales interview Ryan giggs.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
dembethewarrior
I've had IRON throughout today as it's a change from the loop of same songs on the radio.
Even Mrs Steve R doesn't iron all day :hehe::hehe:
-
Re: Wales interview Ryan giggs.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
BLUETIT
Even Mrs Steve R doesn't iron all day :hehe::hehe:
I bet :hehe:
Shouldn't reply with bitterly cold hands by the look of it :hehe:
-
Re: Wales interview Ryan giggs.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
dembethewarrior
Craig Bellamy has also been interviewed.
Who has zero experience as a manager
-
Re: Wales interview Ryan giggs.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
RichardM
Who has zero experience as a manager
Aye great.
Just the messenger....
-
Re: Wales interview Ryan giggs.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
hueypianosmith
Ticks the boxes for me,
Great footballing pedigree.
Most decorated footballer in British football history.
Played under the greatest British manager of all time.
And he is Welsh.
If that was the case Bobby Moore or Bobby Charlton would have made a great England managers. Giggs will make Bobby Gould's time in the hot seat seem like a golden period of Welsh football!
-
Re: Wales interview Ryan giggs.
We’re heading back to the wilderness FFS.... TOP 50 team and we’re interviewing these muppets
-
Re: Wales interview Ryan giggs.
I have to sadly admit I care more about winning City games , international football just gets in the way and leaves me cold.
-
Re: Wales interview Ryan giggs.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
life on mars
I have to sadly admit I care more about winning City games , international football just gets in the way and leaves me cold.
I wouldn't say it leaves me cold, but City have always come first for me. International football is fun when it's fun, but for most of my lifetime it seems like no one in the Wales set up even cared. The last few years notwithstanding, the FAW have been terrible for as long as I can remember.
-
Re: Wales interview Ryan giggs.
Mark Bowen was interviewed as well. Unless there are others then none of the candidates have been a No 1 have they? Giggs couple of games for Man. Utd aside.
-
Re: Wales interview Ryan giggs.
Faw are God awful.
Sooner they slowly get rid of all the old farts in charge, the better.
1 by one...
-
Re: Wales interview Ryan giggs.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
dembethewarrior
Faw are God awful.
Sooner they slowly get rid of all the old farts in charge, the better.
1 by one...
Alan Evans. The old head of the FAW now there was a god awful man dembs. Feck me Ford is like a footballing Steve Jobs compared to him.
-
Re: Wales interview Ryan giggs.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
Still think Osian Roberts is the best man for the job
Given my great respect for your footballing opinions over the years, you've amazed me with that one. Osian is a very knowledgeable guy who has been utterly invaluable to the Welsh cause, but manager? Sometimes I think that if someone is excellent at a particular job then it would be a mistake to appoint that person to a higher job because you lose that particular excellence by giving that person a different (maybe less suitable) job. Who would take over from Osian? What would Osian give you when you take away some of what he has been doing? I see a parallel with Paul Trollope - great coach without question but hopeless as a manager because he wasn't doing what he was best at.
-
Re: Wales interview Ryan giggs.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
Given my great respect for your footballing opinions over the years, you've amazed me with that one. Osian is a very knowledgeable guy who has been utterly invaluable to the Welsh cause, but manager? Sometimes I think that if someone is excellent at a particular job then it would be a mistake to appoint that person to a higher job because you lose that particular excellence by giving that person a different (maybe less suitable) job. Who would take over from Osian? What would Osian give you when you take away some of what he has been doing? I see a parallel with Paul Trollope - great coach without question but hopeless as a manager because he wasn't doing what he was best at.
It's international football. It's not like you're managing a club. You pick the team, plan the tactics, manage the game and go home. Why can't Osian do it? It's not like he's inexperienced at international level. He's the only candidate I've heard mentioned that's been to a tournament.
-
Re: Wales interview Ryan giggs.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
NYCBlue
It's international football. It's not like you're managing a club. You pick the team, plan the tactics, manage the game and go home. Why can't Osian do it? It's not like he's inexperienced at international level. He's the only candidate I've heard mentioned that's been to a tournament.
Coleman hadn't been to a tournament before but that worked ok.
Osian's undoubted ability is in preparation, tactics, knowing the inside out of the opposition and the Welsh players. If Coleman was anything to go by, his ability was in team bonding, dealing with clubs and players, being hands on and other things.
If Osian is going to be promoted to manager, there's no way he'll be able to continue in his current role. Who does that? Osian has done such a good job, who fills his boots? What's to say Osian will be better at being a manager rather than a great technical adviser? Will he be able to deal with clubs and players? Has he any experience of this? Former players know the score.
Like I said, Trollope is an excellent coach. He was a crap manager, because it demanded a skill set that Trollope wasn't so suited to. That's my fear with Osian Roberts. What was his involvement like with the players? Do we know?
I fear appointing Roberts would be taking him away from a job in which he has excelled to one where he can't continue doing what he has already done and is unproven for what he will be needed to do.
-
Re: Wales interview Ryan giggs.
-
Re: Wales interview Ryan giggs.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
Still think Osian Roberts is the best man for the job, wouldn't mind Bellamy though and Bowen could be a shrewd appointment, but is he damaged goods currently because of his Mark Hughes connection?
oSIAN ROBERTS FFS THE MAN WHO FCKED UP THE ANGLESEY SET UP,THAT USED TO PRODUCE LEAGUE PLAYERS ON A CONVEYOR BELT .HO AND WORKED MIRACLES WITH THE MIGHTY PORTHMADOG SIDE AS I SAY FFS!!
-
Re: Wales interview Ryan giggs.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
Given my great respect for your footballing opinions over the years, you've amazed me with that one. Osian is a very knowledgeable guy who has been utterly invaluable to the Welsh cause, but manager? Sometimes I think that if someone is excellent at a particular job then it would be a mistake to appoint that person to a higher job because you lose that particular excellence by giving that person a different (maybe less suitable) job. Who would take over from Osian? What would Osian give you when you take away some of what he has been doing? I see a parallel with Paul Trollope - great coach without question but hopeless as a manager because he wasn't doing what he was best at.
Osian would provide continuity and it seems clear that he has the squad's respect - I think Coleman proved himself as a motivator during his time in charge and I'm not sure that's where Osian's strengths lie, so you bring in someone else to be the motivator.
If the list of four people that we know of who have been interviewed so far contained proven club or, preferably, international managers who had a history of winning things, then I would feel differently, but, presumably, no one with such a record is being interviewed for the job. So, in essence, it boils down to taking a punt on one of four candidates who are completely unproven in the sort of job they are applying for.
-
Re: Wales interview Ryan giggs.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
banogboy14
oSIAN ROBERTS FFS THE MAN WHO FCKED UP THE ANGLESEY SET UP,THAT USED TO PRODUCE LEAGUE PLAYERS ON A CONVEYOR BELT .HO AND WORKED MIRACLES WITH THE MIGHTY PORTHMADOG SIDE AS I SAY FFS!!
I'm fascinated by this "ANGLESEY SET UP,THAT USED TO PRODUCE LEAGUE PLAYERS ON A CONVEYOR BELT"
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/sport/foo...ll-xi-12023276
-
Re: Wales interview Ryan giggs.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
Osian would provide continuity and it seems clear that he has the squad's respect - I think Coleman proved himself as a motivator during his time in charge and I'm not sure that's where Osian's strengths lie, so you bring in someone else to be the motivator.
Bellamy with a golf club :biggrin:
-
Re: Wales interview Ryan giggs.
I think it's harsh to say to Osian
''you're so good at the job you're doing that you keep doing it and not get the big job. What we will do instead Os is bring someone in from outside with no more experience than you and they can do it. You can still help them though mate'
Nice 1
-
Re: Wales interview Ryan giggs.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
joecity
I think it's harsh to say to Osian
''you're so good at the job you're doing that you keep doing it and not get the big job. What we will do instead Os is bring someone in from outside with no more experience than you and they can do it. You can still help them though mate'
Nice 1
Agreed.
We all adapt to promotions and different roles. Surely that can be applied to football too?
Sometimes we can over complicate things.
I think he's a fantastic coach, not sure if he would be any good as a manager, but looking at what come forward so far he would rank pretty high up the list for me..
-
Re: Wales interview Ryan giggs.
Why are you so convinced Giggs will be a disaster.It is true that just because you were a great of the game doesn't mean you will be a great manager,but as a candidate Giggs has good pedigree.
-
Re: Wales interview Ryan giggs.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
hueypianosmith
Why are you so convinced Giggs will be a disaster.It is true that just because you were a great of the game doesn't mean you will be a great manager,but as a candidate Giggs has good pedigree.
I'm not convinced that Giggs would be a disaster but I'm not convinced that he would be better than Osian either. So it's Osian for me given that he's there, he knows the players, he wants it. I think he deserves it.
-
Re: Wales interview Ryan giggs.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
hueypianosmith
Why are you so convinced Giggs will be a disaster.It is true that just because you were a great of the game doesn't mean you will be a great manager,but as a candidate Giggs has good pedigree.
You'll have to let us know who you're replying to bruv