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Why are there so many false names on the Message Board?
The more messages I look at, the more false names I see on here :sherlock:
Is it part and parcel for so many to be using false names so they can hide behind a protective mask?:wave:
Peoples names don't really bother me, it could be that I am actually talking to people who for all I know could be the McKay's or even Neil Warnock? That doesn't phase me because I can stand by every word I posted in regard to the aircraft accident with the knowledge that it is all easily proven.
If false names are the 'name of the game' I am quite happy to be called ' YMCHWIL GWYBODAETH '
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Re: Why are there so many false names on the Message Board?
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Originally Posted by
Flyer46
The more messages I look at, the more false names I see on here :sherlock:
Is it part and parcel for so many to be using false names so they can hide behind a protective mask?:wave:
Peoples names don't really bother me, it could be that I am actually talking to people who for all I know could be the McKay's or even Neil Warnock? That doesn't phase me because I can stand by every word I posted in regard to the aircraft accident with the knowledge that it is all easily proven.
If false names are the 'name of the game' I am quite happy to be called ' YMCHWIL GWYBODAETH '
Hi mate, you're very defensive for someone who seems so confident in their words.
Could you please post all of the facts for us idiots in simple bullet points so us laymans can understand the truth in its simplicity, please?
Thanks.
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Re: Why are there so many false names on the Message Board?
Are you trying to tell me my name isn't actually Der Kaiser ?:angry::angry:
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Re: Why are there so many false names on the Message Board?
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Originally Posted by
Flyer46
The more messages I look at, the more false names I see on here :sherlock:
Is it part and parcel for so many to be using false names so they can hide behind a protective mask?:wave:
Peoples names don't really bother me, it could be that I am actually talking to people who for all I know could be the McKay's or even Neil Warnock? That doesn't phase me because I can stand by every word I posted in regard to the aircraft accident with the knowledge that it is all easily proven.
If false names are the 'name of the game' I am quite happy to be called ' YMCHWIL GWYBODAETH '
You've been rumbled Mr 46.
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Re: Why are there so many false names on the Message Board?
Rumpelstiltskin is my name
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Re: Why are there so many false names on the Message Board?
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Originally Posted by
Flyer46
The more messages I look at, the more false names I see on here :sherlock:
Is it part and parcel for so many to be using false names so they can hide behind a protective mask?:wave:
Peoples names don't really bother me, it could be that I am actually talking to people who for all I know could be the McKay's or even Neil Warnock? That doesn't phase me because I can stand by every word I posted in regard to the aircraft accident with the knowledge that it is all easily proven.
If false names are the 'name of the game' I am quite happy to be called ' YMCHWIL GWYBODAETH '
A better name for you would actually be - 'YN GWYBOD POPETH'
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Re: Why are there so many false names on the Message Board?
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Originally Posted by
Heisenberg
Hi mate, you're very defensive for someone who seems so confident in their words.
Could you please post all of the facts for us idiots in simple bullet points so us laymans can understand the truth in its simplicity, please?
Thanks.
Heisenberg,
The official AAIB interim report is being released at 1400hrs on Monday 25th February 2019 so when it is released I will post up a link & then everyone interested in reading the interim report will see all the known facts verbatim which will replicate all the details I have posted to this messageboard.
A brief summary is :
(1). David Ibbotson was colourblind so unable to fly after sunset +30 mins or before 30mins before sunrise.
(2). David Ibbotson was a private pilot who was only cleared to fly in daylight hours due to his colourblindness.
(3). David Ibbotson was operating outside the privileges of his pilots licence by conducting this flight at night.
There are other bullet points I could add but I have covered them in numerous other posts on this messageboard and I am pretty sure that the report from the AAIB will cover them to back up everything I have posted since the accident.
The remit of the AAIB is to undertake safety investigations to establish the cause of accidents. They do not apportion blame or liability.
Any investigation into the bullet points mentioned in summary will & is being taken by the UK Civil Aviation Authority and the Federal Aviation Administration as are any investigations into who was involved in the flight arrangements.
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Re: Why are there so many false names on the Message Board?
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Originally Posted by
Flyer46
Heisenberg,
The official AAIB interim report is being released at 1400hrs on Monday 25th February 2019 so when it is released I will post up a link & then everyone interested in reading the interim report will see all the known facts verbatim which will replicate all the details I have posted to this messageboard.
A brief summary is :
(1). David Ibbotson was colourblind so unable to fly after sunset +30 mins or before 30mins before sunrise.
(2). David Ibbotson was a private pilot who was only cleared to fly in daylight hours due to his colourblindness.
(3). David Ibbotson was operating outside the privileges of his pilots licence by conducting this flight at night.
There are other bullet points I could add but I have covered them in numerous other posts on this messageboard and I am pretty sure that the report from the AAIB will cover them to back up everything I have posted since the accident.
The remit of the AAIB is to undertake safety investigations to establish the cause of accidents. They do not apportion blame or liability.
Any investigation into the bullet points mentioned in summary will & is being taken by the UK Civil Aviation Authority and the Federal Aviation Administration as are any investigations into who was involved in the flight arrangements.
Sorry, but I missed the other posts, so could you summarise all of them in to more than 3 bullet points for those of us who are a bit educationally impeded, please? I believe that you've posted an incredible amount of text in your short time on this board, so it shouldn't be too difficult to condense them to a few sentences - right?
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Re: Why are there so many false names on the Message Board?
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Heisenberg
Sorry, but I missed the other posts, so could you summarise all of them in to more than 3 bullet points for those of us who are a bit educationally impeded, please? I believe that you've posted an incredible amount of text in your short time on this board, so it shouldn't be too difficult to condense them to a few sentences - right?
Read the AAIB Report when it is published today and if you are still struggling to understand the report I am more than happy to answer questions where you are educationally impeded by aviation phraseology, one of the great things about AAIB reports are they are compiled by very eloquent authors who use concise wording that everyone will understand whether they have an aviation background or a 'joe public' background.
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Re: Why are there so many false names on the Message Board?
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Originally Posted by
Flyer46
A brief summary is :
(1). David Ibbotson was colourblind so unable to fly after sunset +30 mins or before 30mins before sunrise.
(2). David Ibbotson was a private pilot who was only cleared to fly in daylight hours due to his colourblindness.
(3). David Ibbotson was operating outside the privileges of his pilots licence by conducting this flight at night.
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I'm going to bed now, but it would be pretty informative if your next post didn't contain bullet points which all say "David Ibbotson couldn't fly at night" in different ways to help us understand what's happened. Thanks Flyer46.
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Re: Why are there so many false names on the Message Board?
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Heisenberg
I'm going to bed now, but it would be pretty informative if your next post didn't contain bullet points which all say "David Ibbotson couldn't fly at night" in different ways to help us understand what's happened. Thanks Flyer46.
The report from the AAIB will be clear enough to let you understand what happened, it will also make a lot more sense when you understand that a colourblind pilot flying at night is akin to playing 'Russian roulette'
Another snippet that is relevant is that Dave Ibbotson asked to descend from 5000ft to 2300ft to get out of icing conditions, the icing conditions on that night were from the ground upwards. Any level that he elected would have still had him in icing conditions so the ice build up on the aircraft would have been a probable cause for the request to descend & also likely to have been relevant in the Sala voice message where he felt the aircraft was falling apart as the airflow over the wing surfaces would have been uneven due to ice building up on the laminar surfaces.
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Re: Why are there so many false names on the Message Board?
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Heisenberg
I'm going to bed now, but it would be pretty informative if your next post didn't contain bullet points which all say "David Ibbotson couldn't fly at night" in different ways to help us understand what's happened. Thanks Flyer46.
:hehe:
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Re: Why are there so many false names on the Message Board?
This guy is just walesbales reposting stuff from that pilot forum isn’t it?
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I know you’re a previous poster on here, but I can’t work out who :sherlock:
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Re: Why are there so many false names on the Message Board?
The answer is simple. If posters had to use their real names, they wouldn’t be so keen on being keyboard warriors.
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Re: Why are there so many false names on the Message Board?
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William Treseder
The answer is simple. If posters had to use their real names, they wouldn’t be so keen on being keyboard warriors.
Said the well know Cardiff Florist
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Re: Why are there so many false names on the Message Board?
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WJ99mobile
I know you’re a previous poster on here, but I can’t work out who :sherlock:
Flyer46's posts do have clear similarities to those of someone who used to post on this board regularly. I spend all day yesterday trying to work it out. Maybe whoever it is was pining for CCMB and wanted to return.
:thumbup:
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Flyer46
Do you really think that because I am not a Cardiff City supporter or even a football fan that I am less of a person than you are?
You do seem to spend a lot of time on here despite not being a football fan.
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Re: Why are there so many false names on the Message Board?
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William Treseder
The answer is simple. If posters had to use their real names, they wouldn’t be so keen on being keyboard warriors.
Didn’t you spend the last few weeks stalking croesy on here? :hehe:
People don’t use their real names because it isn’t worth the hassle of the weirdos on here.
Remember baker played in that charity football match with **** he they were all going on about kicking him up in the air, he was 18 and they were middle aged men. People don’t use their real names because of arse holes like that.
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insider
Said the well know Cardiff Florist
That’s my real name. I’m a relative.
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Re: Why are there so many false names on the Message Board?
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The Lone Gunman
Flyer46's posts do have clear similarities to those of someone who used to post on this board regularly. I spend all day yesterday trying to work it out. Maybe whoever it is was pining for CCMB and wanted to return.
:thumbup:
AKA “The Grass”
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Re: Why are there so many false names on the Message Board?
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rudy gestede
Didn’t you spend the last few weeks stalking croesy on here? :hehe:
People don’t use their real names because it isn’t worth the hassle of the weirdos on here.
Remember baker played in that charity football match with **** he they were all going on about kicking him up in the air, he was 18 and they were middle aged men. People don’t use their real names because of arse holes like that.
I’ve never stalked anyone in here. We had a few differing opinions and he put me on ignore. A blessing in disguise 😎
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Re: Why are there so many false names on the Message Board?
How is it a blessing in disguise if you can still see all his posts though?
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Re: Why are there so many false names on the Message Board?
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Originally Posted by
Flyer46
Heisenberg,
The official AAIB interim report is being released at 1400hrs on Monday 25th February 2019 so when it is released I will post up a link & then everyone interested in reading the interim report will see all the known facts verbatim which will replicate all the details I have posted to this messageboard.
A brief summary is :
(1). David Ibbotson was colourblind so unable to fly after sunset +30 mins or before 30mins before sunrise.
(2). David Ibbotson was a private pilot who was only cleared to fly in daylight hours due to his colourblindness.
(3). David Ibbotson was operating outside the privileges of his pilots licence by conducting this flight at night.
There are other bullet points I could add but I have covered them in numerous other posts on this messageboard and I am pretty sure that the report from the AAIB will cover them to back up everything I have posted since the accident.
The remit of the AAIB is to undertake safety investigations to establish the cause of accidents. They do not apportion blame or liability.
Any investigation into the bullet points mentioned in summary will & is being taken by the UK Civil Aviation Authority and the Federal Aviation Administration as are any investigations into who was involved in the flight arrangements.
All of this was posted on the PPRUNE website hours and days after the crash. I could have repeated it on here, but I decided to stick to the known facts such as the weather, the descent to 2,300ft and the lack of a mayday call. Some people on here called me a know-it-all who thinks he knows everything.They must have some serious problems when it comes to understanding the difference between facts and speculation. I think people just want to believe what they think is true, even if there is no basis in fact for those beliefs :hehe:
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Re: Why are there so many false names on the Message Board?
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Wales-Bales
All of this was posted on the PPRUNE website hours and days after the crash. I could have repeated it on here, but I decided to stick to the known facts such as the weather, the descent to 2,300ft and the lack of a mayday call. Some people on here called me a know-it-all who thinks he knows everything.They must have some serious problems when it comes to understanding the difference between facts and speculation. I think people just want to believe what they think is true, even if there is no basis in fact for those beliefs :hehe:
Wales Bales,
I am impressed that you seem to have a modicum of knowledge about Pprune..... I have been accused of being you :wave: I don't know who should be more upset about that? Me or You :sherlock:
I have avoided speculation & succinctly stuck to facts..... it should be stated that Pprune is a short moniker for ProfessionalPilotsRumourNetwork so if you want to read Speculation that has been mixed into the facts that is the place to go
:popcorn:
Anyway the AAIB interim report will be getting released today & then all the naysayers can eat 'humble pie'
I haven't seen your posts on the Sala accident where you mention the known facts such as the weather, the descent to 2,300ft and the lack of a mayday call. (maybe in the melee I have but it didn't stick out like a sore thumb ).
Some people on here are quite confrontational and have called me out on quite a few aspects of what I post, so I find it very easy to comprehend why they would class you as " a know-it-all who thinks he knows everything "
I don't know whether you have any aviation background, nor does it really matter :thumbup: I can sit comfortably knowing that everything I have stated/posted/implied is 100% factual without any speculation attached ( implied is personal opinion based on known facts, lets see how much my ramblings differ from what the AAIB release? )
When I am proven to have only stated Aviation facts on this fateful flight I will not gloat, it is actually a subject that whilst needing discussed I would much prefer not to be having this debate..... I would have rather be having a conversation with Dave Ibbotson where he could have been guided on the error of his ways.
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Re: Why are there so many false names on the Message Board?
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B. Oddie
You do seem to spend a lot of time on here despite not being a football fan.
I am on here despite not being a football fan simply because I am involved in the aviation industry & my only interest is in the Sala Flight matters.
My boss is heavily involved in Aviation & whilst he would have come onto this messageboard and stated facts he chose not to on the basis that he wants to stay out of the debate as it could compromise him & his identity or rather his father's identity would certainly be known to anyone who isn't a Plastic Taff.
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Re: Why are there so many false names on the Message Board?
I haven't been following the plot too closely. Why is flyer's boss important to the story?
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Short Moniker . Cool false name.
A.G.R.O.N.Y.M. ...... Another.
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Wales Bales....... nearly 12500 posts is impressive :wales:
I am guessing that is why so many posters think you are " a know-it-all who thinks he knows everything "
It makes my 70 odd posts a paltry amount & I doubt I will pass the 125 posts mark as the Sala flight subject will soon be a distant memory.
:tumbleweed:
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Flyer46
Wales Bales,
I am impressed that you seem to have a modicum of knowledge about Pprune..... I have been accused of being you :wave: I don't know who should be more upset about that? Me or You :sherlock:
I have avoided speculation & succinctly stuck to facts..... it should be stated that Pprune is a short moniker for ProfessionalPilotsRumourNetwork so if you want to read Speculation that has been mixed into the facts that is the place to go
:popcorn:
Anyway the AAIB interim report will be getting released today & then all the naysayers can eat 'humble pie'
I haven't seen your posts on the Sala accident where you mention the known facts such as the weather, the descent to 2,300ft and the lack of a mayday call. (maybe in the melee I have but it didn't stick out like a sore thumb ).
Some people on here are quite confrontational and have called me out on quite a few aspects of what I post, so I find it very easy to comprehend why they would class you as " a know-it-all who thinks he knows everything "
I don't know whether you have any aviation background, nor does it really matter :thumbup: I can sit comfortably knowing that everything I have stated/posted/implied is 100% factual without any speculation attached ( implied is personal opinion based on known facts, lets see how much my ramblings differ from what the AAIB release? )
When I am proven to have only stated Aviation facts on this fateful flight I will not gloat, it is actually a subject that whilst needing discussed I would much prefer not to be having this debate..... I would have rather be having a conversation with Dave Ibbotson where he could have been guided on the error of his ways.
There were first hand accounts regarding the pilots flying status posted on PPRUNE from people who knew of him, but I just kept to the stuff that was already verified by the Jersey Air Traffic Control, Channel Islands Met data, and statements from the air accident inverstigators. However, I was still told that I shouldn't be guessing, and we should wait for the official accident investigion report!
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Originally Posted by
Flyer46
Wales Bales,
I am impressed that you seem to have a modicum of knowledge about Pprune..... I have been accused of being you :wave: I don't know who should be more upset about that? Me or You :sherlock:
I have avoided speculation & succinctly stuck to facts..... it should be stated that Pprune is a short moniker for ProfessionalPilotsRumourNetwork so if you want to read Speculation that has been mixed into the facts that is the place to go
:popcorn:
Anyway the AAIB interim report will be getting released today & then all the naysayers can eat 'humble pie'
I haven't seen your posts on the Sala accident where you mention the known facts such as the weather, the descent to 2,300ft and the lack of a mayday call. (maybe in the melee I have but it didn't stick out like a sore thumb ).
Some people on here are quite confrontational and have called me out on quite a few aspects of what I post, so I find it very easy to comprehend why they would class you as " a know-it-all who thinks he knows everything "
I don't know whether you have any aviation background, nor does it really matter :thumbup: I can sit comfortably knowing that everything I have stated/posted/implied is 100% factual without any speculation attached ( implied is personal opinion based on known facts, lets see how much my ramblings differ from what the AAIB release? )
When I am proven to have only stated Aviation facts on this fateful flight I will not gloat, it is actually a subject that whilst needing discussed I would much prefer not to be having this debate..... I would have rather be having a conversation with Dave Ibbotson where he could have been guided on the error of his ways.
" a know-it-all who thinks he knows everything "
...... wouldn’t really be a know it all otherwise😂
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Re: Why are there so many false names on the Message Board?
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StraightOuttaCanton
" a know-it-all who thinks he knows everything "
...... wouldn’t really be a know it all otherwise
Always use repetition for effect :biggrin:
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Flyer46
Wales Bales....... nearly 12500 posts is impressive :wales:
I am guessing that is why so many posters think you are " a know-it-all who thinks he knows everything "
It makes my 70 odd posts a paltry amount & I doubt I will pass the 125 posts mark as the Sala flight subject will soon be a distant memory.
:tumbleweed:
There is a team of six people operating this account :thumbup:
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lardy
I haven't been following the plot too closely. Why is flyer's boss important to the story?
He isn't important in this actual story, he was only mentioned because I was 'called out' on a few things & asked " Why am I on here? "
He is the son of a Famous Welsh sportsman who in his younger years spent way too much time around Football stadiums & being bored shitless by the whole exposure to sports that he had no interest in.
He went into aviation out of choice & was backed by his father so whilst he is very proud of his fathers achievements, his father was very proud that he went out on his own to carve a career for himself.
So, he isn't important in football circles but his father's name still opens doors for him in sporting circles.
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Flyer46
He isn't important in this actual story, he was only mentioned because I was 'called out' on a few things & asked " Why am I on here? "
He is the son of a Famous Welsh sportsman who in his younger years spent way too much time around Football stadiums & being bored shitless by the whole exposure to sports that he had no interest in.
He went into aviation out of choice & was backed by his father so whilst he is very proud of his fathers achievements, his father was very proud that he went out on his own to carve a career for himself.
So, he isn't important in football circles but his father's name still opens doors for him in sporting circles.
It sounds like an episode of Through the Keyhole :biggrin:
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Flyer46
He isn't important in this actual story, he was only mentioned because I was 'called out' on a few things & asked " Why am I on here? "
He is the son of a Famous Welsh sportsman who in his younger years spent way too much time around Football stadiums & being bored shitless by the whole exposure to sports that he had no interest in.
He went into aviation out of choice & was backed by his father so whilst he is very proud of his fathers achievements, his father was very proud that he went out on his own to carve a career for himself.
So, he isn't important in football circles but his father's name still opens doors for him in sporting circles.
Nice, we could get a spin-off out of that
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I have enjoyed Flyer 46's posts but to ask the question why there are so many false names and then hide behind his is just plain daft.
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Wales-Bales
It sounds like an episode of Through the Keyhole :biggrin:
That is funny :sherlock: My boss chuckled at that :facepalm: He did just tell me that his father has appeared on a Question of Sport but never Through the Keyhole
:getscoat: