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I hope that he doesn't go but would understand if he did.
We have stability at the club for the first time in many years (decades?) and there is no doubt that Dalman has been influential in achieving that stability.
He's an interesting character, fair play if he wants to branch out on his own.
Stumbled across this article on him, which completely passed my by at the time. Can't read most of it due to the paywall mind.
Be a big miss. Wonder if Tan has had enquiries about buying his stake and this has prompted Dalman's interest in Charlton.
"Hey Bobby, why did the chicken cross the road?"
Tan make him a major shareholder/part owner he deserves it
He has got quite a large shareholding via his company. Offhand its £7/8m.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
I will be really sorry to lose Mehmet, as he has been a calming professional influence ever since he has been involved with the City.
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Originally Posted by NottinghamBlue
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Originally Posted by NottinghamBlue
Maybe there's no other reason other than he now fancy's having his own club?
It doesn't have to be a conspiracy or something bad every time something happens at the club.
Dalman joined the Cardiff City board in January 2012. A few months later the club was re-branded. A calming, professional influence ever since he's been involved? Really?Quote:
Originally Posted by NottinghamBlue
You were pals with Sam Hammam for a short while. If Sam had an idea, even if it was highly controversial, would he have paid any attention to what anyone else said? With regard the rebranding, Dalman was new to the club and highly unlikely to rock the boat with an owner he hadn't got to know and would have disregarded him in anycase.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
Money man in a suit. The guy is a slime ball. No idea about football. ****ed up our transfer window this time last year. Why do people like him?
I prefer Choo. He seems more humble to me.
That said though, get a proper, football expert in as a DOF. Let’s be a modern football club shall we?
Can you tell me which SUCCESSFUL football club has a DOF please.Quote:
Originally Posted by Divine Wright
Would you be a manager under one ?????
Really?Quote:
Originally Posted by BLUETIT
Liverpool and Man City do for a start. Leicester have had one for the last 5 years, Wolves have one as well.
If you look abroad, Juve, Dortmund and Atlético, Lille(sane guy who oversaw Monaco’s rise to their title a few years back, Lille have just finished second in France), Barcelona and Bayern all operate with one. In fact you’d be hard pressed to find a european club that doesn’t use one.
So basically, it’s clubs who can afford another big wage on a mate of someone in the know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Llandaff Blue
Again, if you were a manager, would you want someone dictating to you ????
We also had a DOF - Kenny Hibbet. That worked well I don't think.
How would his shares in City affect his position at Charlton? Would he have to sell them under some League rules?Quote:
Originally Posted by jeremy corbyn
Hardly? Like I said, most clubs in Europe use one. Norwich have one as well if you want to look closer to our level.Quote:
Originally Posted by BLUETIT
They don’t dictate managers, they work with them on transfers and various other aspects of the club. Dalman is essentially our answer to that except he appears to lack the football knowledge that other clubs have.
If I were a manager and refused to work under one I’d be stuck managing Newport county!
That’s a pretty archaic and naive point of view you have. Call them what you like but nearly all teams have some sort of General Manager - and it’s true in most big money sports not just footballQuote:
Originally Posted by BLUETIT
Interview with the man himself and Ken Choo in which they both say he's staying - the Charlton bid is reported to have stalled.
Dalman also talks of us signing two or three players by July with more to follow and says the plan is to "keep every one of our best players".
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...alman-16419429
Hate wasting money on pen pushers, sack the lot of um, shop floor is where it’s at :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanton
He's done well but does come across as a bit of a smoozer, it's not the end of the World!Quote:
Originally Posted by Divine Wright
Mare?Quote:
Originally Posted by BLUETIT
https://www.90min.com/posts/6272660-...premier-league
Good news all round thenQuote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Mare my arse, only read down to Dougie Freedman (or whatever his name is), you gotta be taking the piss saying MARE !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Divine Wright
Would you want him anywhere near our club ????
The others quote “it’s not quite WORKING OUT”
It’s a NON JOB, the manager is the manager, end of !!!!!
Before you copy any other so-called evidence, please read through it yourself, most of that ones out of date
A bit of a problem for us was our dungeon years. We haven’t got ex players with the top flight/high standard modern experience with the club at heart knocking about locally. It seems people come to us with just a pay day in mind. A lot of long term successful clubs have ex players, who’ve been there and done it, still involved and they’d more or less argue black was white for the cause. The perfect overseer/director of football would be a football man, someone who’s already made his money and future secure, someone with many contacts but most of all absolutely loves the club. It’s been like revolving doors down the City through the years, money wasted left, right & centre. We desperately need a Cardiff City football man at a higher level than the manager. Let’s be honest, Warnock’s success and gallant Premier League season has masked his dodginess involving the McKays, his agent son’s player coming on at Fulham ahead of more capable players, Tomlin, Madine etc, would a DoF reined him in a bit more?
You are still having a mare. The article was written in January and all the people mentioned in the article remain at their clubs.Quote:
Originally Posted by BLUETIT
Sorry but you have zero idea what a director of football is and what they actually do. I’ve given you plenty of clubs who have succeeded with one and you think it’s a non position that the chairman’s mate gets. What do you think Dalman does for the club ??
Meeting between DF at Crystal Palarse and a top agent:——-Quote:
Originally Posted by Llandaff Blue
DF:— Woy tells me he wants your player (he don’t know his name), out on the pitch (he don’t know what position he plays) playing for us
Agent:— Who are you exactly, as I thought I was talking to the BOSS.
DF::— I’m DF, I played (insert games) for this club (insert name)
Agent:— Ya, but who are you and what’s your standing in the game. Where’s Woy ????
DF:—- I took this club, to a league cup semi-final, which I unfortunately lost, because 30000 Welshmen sang a Bob Marley song. But my physiatrist is getting me over it now and I can listen to Bob with hardly any problems
Agent:——Do you know the way to Watford
DF:—- You hum it and I’ll sing it
It’s all Bollox
Are you ok?Quote:
Originally Posted by BLUETIT
Never been better, thanks for your concern :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
Dalman sits on the Transfer Committee along with Tan, Choo and Warnock. Would any of them dare challenge Warnock on football matters, specifically the recruitment and retention of players? It is not healthy to have one person at the club making all these decisions. I agree, irrespective of whether Dalman stays or goes, some top level football expertise is long overdue.Quote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
Warnock has a massive amount of expertise ,probably the most experienced /knowledge manager we have ever hadQuote:
Originally Posted by Delbert
Having one man, however expert he is, making all these decisions at a football club is clearly flawed. Warnock needs to have his opinions challenged like anyone else. Dalman, Choo and Tan do not have the expertise to do this.
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Originally Posted by BLUETIT
So you trust a total stranger more than the people in place!!!!!! STRANGEQuote:
Originally Posted by Delbert
I agree. I think Warnock was given total control over the first two and a half years, but the recent announcements about pre-season and the discussion about finding a sucessor after next season suggest that the Board are taking some of the control away from him. That doesn't mean that a new source of current football knowledge has mysteriously appeared at the club to complement and challenge Warnock - that is needed - but it does feel like the start of a transition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delbert
You work on the shop floor?Quote:
Originally Posted by BLUETIT