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It gets worse.
I hope everyone at City has squeaky clean hands.
My concern is that our manager will be feeling ever more uncomfortable with his close dealings with this disgraced former agent as more and more facts and accusations are revealed.Quote:
Originally Posted by jeremy corbyn
I thought you meant Malky, and I was like finally
Very true, this McKay character seems the type who’d have no qualms about dragging every bugger into the water with him should his ship start to sink. If it did emerge that our manager was a lot more involved with this shyster than we’re led to believe I’d be inclined to support a parting of the ways, even if it did set us back on the pitch a bit. In fact it may show the club in a decent light morally. I do think that we’re quite an attractive proposition anyway new managerwise. Anyway, time will tell but wouldn’t want it hanging over the club for a long while.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since62
From your previous posts Keith, I have been slightly concerned that the club or club individuals might be inadvertently drawn into stuff now the police and media are crawling over everything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since62
Good points.Quote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
Benitez is available.
Vincent Tan would be a breath of fresh air after Mike Ashley I’d imagine👍Quote:
Originally Posted by jeremy corbyn
And me lolQuote:
Originally Posted by CardiffCitySince1927
Then he threatens the family of the reporter who asked about his warning for threats!!!
Some people are too stupid to ever learn.
Only if we could ,he and other names like him need the big money backing and players , cant see him making good from grassroots div 1 /2 prospects and free's .Quote:
Originally Posted by jeremy corbyn
Get up, then grab him, but fully fund him :sherlock:
If Malky could be charged with fraud, don't you think he would have been?
Dml will refute this no problemQuote:
Originally Posted by Since62
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Originally Posted by splott parker
Let me put a hypothetical scenario to you.
Can you imagine the angry reaction from our fans if our manager had been sacked in the middle of a relegation battle for getting too involved and doing deals with such a dodgy unsavoury character?
Seeing as we got relegated anyway, and it was rarely in doubt for most of the season, I don't really think we would have a riot on our hands.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since62
But what if the club thought that it might happen,particularly at a time when they were trying to focus most of their time and effort in dealing with the Emiliano Sala tragedy?Quote:
Originally Posted by NYCBlue
It was/is a unique situation. Ok, there’s always been an undercurrent of unsavoury goings on in football, it’s not a new thing. But chucking in the untimely death (through negligence) of a club's new record signing, not in a tragic non football related accident or illness but in an incident directly connected to the transfer is a whole new thing, surely a first.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since62
As I say our manager has garnered a lot of goodwill due to turning the club around but it would have been interesting to see how things would have turned out if Sala had lived and performed Corneliusesq. Would Tan had drip fed us the McKay connections? The dodgy signings of the sons, the father’s dubious reputation, the (supposed) inflated fee for Sala etc. Would the tide have turned against the manager? Good chance it would have after Tan was more or less vindicated over the Malky affair.
The tragedy seems to have put the brakes on any finger pointing from the club (and I think they’ve acted very respectfully) and the nastiness seems to be coming from the McKay camp towards us.............yet we still employ his sons, that’s the thing that galls me.
Think it best if the club make a clean break of all this. So that means Warnock, McKay sons, relevant agents, advisers, and anybody on the board who should have done better.
I get the feeling you know more than you letting on Keith.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since62
As an outsider, things do look a bit 'odd' shall we say but surely if there was something not right then the club's hierarchy would be well aware and would have taken action before now.
Who does he think he is? Tony Soprano? Ffs the feckin numptyQuote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle
What a bunch of turncoats most of you are, who have posted in this thread!
You're right, it's a disgrace. How on earth anyone can seriously believe there was anything dodgy about Neil Warnock signing the talentless sons of a notoriously dodgy agent who he'd been involved in dodgy deals with in the past is beyond me. What is wrong with some people?Quote:
Originally Posted by Igovernor
The report doesn't actually say anything much about the alleged fraud. Charges were brought by the Insolvency Service, so I would guess he's disposed of assets that were subject to a bankruptcy order.
He is a bankrupt isn't He? It probably to do with his general financial dealing/ tax etc
Jack McKay has signed for Chesterfield - effective from 1st July - alongside Anthony Gerrard!Quote:
Originally Posted by tricks
https://www.chesterfield-fc.co.uk/ne...ransfer-swoop/
https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/john...n-there-345472
How old is Gerrard? Got to be getting on a bit by now.
33Quote:
Originally Posted by NYCBlue
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Gerrard
Why? Because they don't blindly follow someone and think every single thing they do is good?Quote:
Originally Posted by Igovernor
why this club always has an an association with a shady character?
or is it football in general?
If it was to do with tax, the charges would be laid by HMRC, and they always have first bite of the cherry as it's government money. I'd expect the Financial Conduct Authority to deal with it if it was general financial shenanigans. Insolvency Service deal with bankruptcy issues, but the report only talks about the charges for about 3 small paragraphs, then bulks up on previous behaviour, so we can only guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle
[QUOTE=Harry Monk;4982729]If it was to do with tax, the charges would be laid by HMRC, and they always have first bite of the cherry as it's government money. I'd expect the Financial Conduct Authority to deal with it if it was general financial shenanigans. Insolvency Service deal with bankruptcy issues, but the report only talks about the charges for about 3 small paragraphs, then bulks up on previous behaviour, so we can only guess.[/QUOT
HMRC haven’t had priority over debts since 2003.
McKay’s conduct which led to his bankruptcy restrictions being extended until the Summer of 2023 included huge gambling debts being run up plus attempts to put substantial assets outside the reach of his creditors.
The Insolvency Service are now looking at possible further breaches including being involved in the management of at least one company whilst under a Bankruptcy Restriction Undertaking
[QUOTE=Since62;4982745]This doesn't surprise me. Lots of people sign over assets just before going bankrupt, but get caught as bodies like HMRC etc are no mugs and know how to dig and find deliberate attempts to hide assets.Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry Monk
Good, juts the other one to get rid of now. Neither made an impression with City, nor on they're loan spells last season. Well maybe the one did for Chesterfield to actually sign him, but National League is a good starting point for his career,Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
[QUOTE=Since62;4982745]Well that seems to be juist his own business nothing to do with his finger in football agent pies whilst disqualified. There soesn't seem to be any connection to us particularly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry Monk
But isn't it always the way? you come to peoples attention through being less than honest and everyone starts looking at you.
[QUOTE=xsnaggle;4982760]His son has a limited company in his name and MM’s wife’s name that trades as a football agency.This is in addition to another agency company that was wound up by HMRC through the Scottish courts a couple of years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since62
Perhaps involvement in the management of these businesses is part of what is being looked into further?