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I think The onus will be on the person coming out of the junction to ensure its safe to pull out, by their presence the other vehicle has swerved and crashed.
Bt look at the speed the other car was doing ....... Nowhere near the 30 speed limit :furious:Quote:
Originally Posted by GL1Blue
Whoever is driving the Audi is to blame, arseholes the lot of them, they all think they own the road.
That road is actually a 20 mph nowadays. But I'm sure the insurance company will say that irrespective of speed the car that pulled out of the junction will be the one that pays
Both at fault, I would have thought, the speeding car that hit the post insurance company will claim half the cost from the other insurance company I would have thought?Quote:
Originally Posted by uncle bob
Since a cyclist was deemed at fault for hitting a woman who was looking at her phone when she walked out onto the road, he should have been aware said the judge, I would have thought the fault lies with the person whose car hit the lamp post.
Difficult to prove how fast the car was going.
Easy to prove the other one pulled out in front of it
I thought cyclists owned the roads😁Quote:
Originally Posted by BLUETIT
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Originally Posted by BLUETIT
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Originally Posted by The Bloop
Most Audi tossers wear Lycra and got a £3K bike in the garage, so I see where you’re coming from
In cases when one car is speeding (which is 10% of the given speed limit), then they would be at fault.
The reason is because the driver pulling out of the junction would have their made their decision based on the speed limit of the other car.
But unless you can prove the other car was speeding then its no chance
Tyre marks and the amount of damage gives a clear indication of speed/velocity.Quote:
Originally Posted by uncle bob
I won't embarrass the writer of the below comment but it really is stupid.
"Whoever is driving the Audi is to blame, arseholes the lot of them, they all think they own the road."
Categorising drivers by the make of a car is an idiotic statement. The other day I was cut up by a Kia driver but I wouldn't say all Kia drivers are idiots.
I think that you might be over generalising a bit here. Lots of our fans and players must be tossers then, because there are hundreds of them in the car park on match days. Could it not just be that they are well built, reliable cars ?Presumably you think all VW owners are of a similar disposition, since VW own Audi.Quote:
Originally Posted by BLUETIT
Who will go and take those measurements regarding velocity and tyre marks?
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Originally Posted by Vindec
Methinks, people should lighten up a tage :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by dml1954
God help your sense (or lack of), humour when Boris takes over :hehe:
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Originally Posted by GL1Blue
A “velocity and tyre mark measurer”, I should imagine :hehe:
Similar to that bike thread the other day insomuch as you shouldn't swerve.He should have braked and suffered the consequences which would have resulted in him being blameless in this case.He may have been speeding and he's dead lucky he didn't hit someone as he would have been charged with a more serious offence as he clearly wasn't in control of the vehicle once he swerved.
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Originally Posted by uncle bob
If only there was video footage available of the incident aswell. You'd be able to work out the speed from that.Quote:
Originally Posted by B. Oddie
The police - considering this could have involved pedestrians being hit, along with at least thousands of damage to the street light, they'll presumably have attended?Quote:
Originally Posted by GL1Blue
Is the correct answer. 😂Quote:
Originally Posted by BLUETIT
The person who pulled out is clearly at fault, as if the other driver was driving within the speed limit (and nothing is there to suggest he/she wasn't), then the most likely outcome is swerve or have a head on contact.
Instinct will kick in and most people will swerve. Bearing in mind the incredible reactions of the driver who crashed, to avoid the car and the people at the cafe, it suggests that the speed wasn't as significant an issue as some might think.
What audi, that's a Ford focus and a BMW 1 seriesQuote:
Originally Posted by BLUETIT
Yes the new BMW drivers sadly not kids ,business mens choice of vehicle now, knobs.Quote:
Originally Posted by BLUETIT
NO SHIT :hehe::hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFLA
Was it Mrs Steve R’s hubby in the Focus ???? :hehe:
If there is a crash and one driver totally admits fault, will their insurance pay the full cost of repair of the innocent car, even if the cost is more than the cars' market value?
I think this may be right although I don't drive and have no idea how this kind of thing works. I've got a long story here which isn't very interesting so I wouldn't bother reading it, it's a bit vague too because it happened 25 years ago but basically I saw a very similar incident to this in Grangetown on the evening of the 1994 World Cup Final.Quote:
Originally Posted by B. Oddie
A car driven by an old man pulled out at a junction and caused a young woman to swerve her car, she had to brake hard which spun the car and then, somehow, she accelerated out of the spin and hit a wall. She may have hit a parked car too, I can't remember. She was screaming hysterically and all the locals came out to look but me and my lad just walked off and I thought nothing more of it really.
Until a few months later that is, when I saw a card in the local newsagents asking if anyone had seen a crash on July 17th. I realised it was the incident I'd seen and rang the number given. Within minutes a young guy was knocking on my door and telling me the story. It was his girlfriend driving the car that crashed but the problem was the car that pulled out was driven by a vicar and he, and the other respectable citizens in his car, were claiming that she'd caused the crash because she was speeding. As I understood it, his version of events was being accepted as the truth and it looked like the girl was going to be held responsible which would cost her thousands of pounds that she didn't have.
I said there was no way she was speeding, my lad was only 5 at the time and I was very conscious of that kind of thing around there, and that the crash was caused entirely by the old guy pulling out into her path. I said I'd be more than happy to write a statement to that effect which I did there and then. The guy was buzzing. He was a City fan and he was making some half-hearted attempts at small talk but he couldn't even sit down. He was just pacing around while I wrote my statement out.
Again, I thought little of it for a couple of months until there was a knock on my door one evening. I opened it and the young couple were standing there with a box of chocolates for my family. Apparently, as soon as my statement went in the vicar withdrew his version of events and admitted responsibility. The pair of them were so grateful, it was a nice moment to be honest. I kind of wish I'd said 'I've just saved you thousands of pounds and all I get is a box of f**king chocolates?' but sometimes you don't think of these things till it's too late.
You never know but perhaps someone will help you one day and not expect to be paid for it.
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Originally Posted by Loramski
1. So much for a Christian conscious.
2. in 1994, some people struggled to scrape the money together for the price of a meal let alone buy a box of chocolates.
Welcome to humour. Of course I didn't think that. No one would, surely? Having seen the distress the girl was in when she crashed and the anxiety levels of the boyfriend when I was writing my statement out I can't tell you how nice it was to see them appear at my door full of smiles. It was a kind and thoughtful gesture to come round and thank me, I'm grateful to this day that they did.Quote:
Originally Posted by sneggyblubird
Sounds awful though. It easily could have ended differently. Did you happen to see the programme the other day after the ITV news? They were basically 60 mph crash testing cars from 20 odd years ago compared to brand new ones. The older ones crumbled into a mess where as the new ones absorbed the impact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loramski
I guess this was more evidence that the girl hadn't been speeding, it would have been carnage if she had. I never understood why the vicar's word was being taken as, er, gospel but it seemed to be the case. I also didn't understand why my statement was accepted by the vicar so readily, I could've just been a mate of the girl or her boyfriend, but I never got involved again after giving the lad my statement that day. I assume it would all be dealt with differently these days, the girl shouldn't have had to rely on a massive stroke of luck to get justice back then.Quote:
Originally Posted by B. Oddie
Shirley a box of chocolates would constitute a meal? :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by B. Oddie
Maybe it was spurred on by “Life is like a box of chocolates”, it was released in 1994, so maybe there is a deeper meaning to all thisQuote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle
"Life is like a box of chocolates - you never know what you're gonna get next!" (Forrest Gump)