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Free Broadband - latest insane policy from Labour
In the wonderful whacky world proposed by Corby there'll be free nationalised broadband to while away your extra free time during the reduced working week .
Ignoring the fact that it'll actually have to be paid for by some poor bugger, and that it's a bit strange to provide free broadband when you're making people pay for water, has it occurred to anyone that this would mean that they'd control what people could or couldn't see or say on the Internet ?
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Feck that, I want free beer!
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Another brilliant idea from JC and the lads. He's going to be a breath of fresh air when he usurps the establishment con men.
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Originally Posted by
RonnieBird
In the wonderful whacky world proposed by Corby there'll be free nationalised broadband to while away your extra free time during the reduced working week .
Ignoring the fact that it'll actually have to be paid for by some poor bugger, and that it's a bit strange to provide free broadband when you're making people pay for water, has it occurred to anyone that this would mean that they'd control what people could or couldn't see or say on the Internet ?
I agree. Stupid idea. Will have a massive impact on my business (ie might not have one anymore) and what about the punters who work for all these organisations, what will happen to their jobs?
Looks like a spoilt ballot paper for me this time....
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Originally Posted by
CardiffIrish2
I agree. Stupid idea. Will have a massive impact on my business (ie might not have one anymore) and what about the punters who work for all these organisations, what will happen to their jobs?
Looks like a spoilt ballot paper for me this time....
What is your business?
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Originally Posted by
CardiffIrish2
I agree. Stupid idea. Will have a massive impact on my business (ie might not have one anymore) and what about the punters who work for all these organisations, what will happen to their jobs?
Looks like a spoilt ballot paper for me this time....
The internet has already killed many jobs and businesses, as it is a disruptive technology. Making it "free" to the end user is not necessarily a bad thing, as it could make the country more competitive in the long-term.
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Originally Posted by
CardiffIrish2
I agree. Stupid idea. Will have a massive impact on my business (ie might not have one anymore) and what about the punters who work for all these organisations, what will happen to their jobs?
Looks like a spoilt ballot paper for me this time....
Won't the company(ies) providing the services still need staff? Surely only 'sales' positions would be affected (Not that I believe for a second that this policy will ever come to fruition and I'm not entirely sure of the benefits of it).
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BT shares crash = job loss or workers wage impact v by the time its deployed broadband is defunct as 5g is all around and youngsters will be all about on devices , not using static broadband .
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Originally Posted by
Eric Cartman
What is your business?
I have a sales franchise with a company that provides Gas, Ele, Broadband, Homephone and Mobile services.
It’s got me out of debt which sadly cost me a previous employment (couldn’t go back with a dreadful credit score due to taking out a consolidated loan with First plus)
I’m hoping to go back to college best year to do a PGCE and this business is funding it but if Labour win and this occurs then chances are business will suffer.
I’ll admit I may get called selfish but I think we all look after our own interests, I’ve been able to pay more tax due to this line of work due to increased income.
So fhechoice is Brexit or utility privatisation. Which from my point of view is depressing hence my likely decision to abstain now.
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Originally Posted by
RonnieBird
Has it occurred to anyone that this would mean that they'd control what people could or couldn't see or say on the Internet ?
I agree that the government being in control of your internet usage would be a bad thing. Any idea if it would be a hand-on or hands-off scenario?
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I reckon we should have an election every year, all this investment both parties are promising to spend, a win win for the public.
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Re: Free Broadband - latest insane policy from Labour
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Originally Posted by
RonnieBird
In the wonderful whacky world proposed by Corby there'll be free nationalised broadband to while away your extra free time during the reduced working week .
Ignoring the fact that it'll actually have to be paid for by some poor bugger, and that it's a bit strange to provide free broadband when you're making people pay for water, has it occurred to anyone that this would mean that they'd control what people could or couldn't see or say on the Internet ?
They already do don't they? :shrug: :biggrin:
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Originally Posted by
Mrs Steve R
They already do don't they? :shrug: :biggrin:
He means Labour :hehe:
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Originally Posted by
Heisenberg
He means Labour :hehe:
Don't get you :shrug::hehe:
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Originally Posted by
CardiffIrish2
I have a sales franchise with a company that provides Gas, Ele, Broadband, Homephone and Mobile services.
It’s got me out of debt which sadly cost me a previous employment (couldn’t go back with a dreadful credit score due to taking out a consolidated loan with First plus)
I’m hoping to go back to college best year to do a PGCE and this business is funding it but if Labour win and this occurs then chances are business will suffer.
I’ll admit I may get called selfish but I think we all look after our own interests, I’ve been able to pay more tax due to this line of work due to increased income.
So fhechoice is Brexit or utility privatisation. Which from my point of view is depressing hence my likely decision to abstain now.
Not selfish and not uncommon either that people base their vote on things that affect them, all I would say is consider the full picture which I am sure you will be.
We are lagging behind almost every comparable country on accessibility to fibre internet. One unfortunately side effect of privatisation is that something needs to be profitable to be worth delivering. Governments can afford to look at the bigger picture and ultimately be more equitable.
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Originally Posted by
Mrs Steve R
Don't get you :shrug::hehe:
'They' means Labour.
'We' means UKIP.
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answer to Eric
They can't though Eric. Since it first occurred to the Ancient Romans to import grain from Egypt and hand it out free to the Plebs,( the Dole), such ideas have sometimes achieved a short term aim for transient rulers ,but ended in total ****ing disaster a little way down the line. Following Marx , socialism and Nazism took the idea to new levels of lunacy and the result was even worse.
They don't want to help anyone , they want to control them because they'll be indebted to the state, and in the end the state isn't capable of sustaining it because it just spends without creating anything.
Once they've spent everything there are unprecedented shortages and deprivation.
- just watching Corby exposing his scheme, and I'm afraid he's clearly ****ing mental .
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Originally Posted by
jon1959
'They' means Labour.
'We' means UKIP.
How did you managed to insult UKIP on this subject ?
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Originally Posted by
jon1959
'They' means Labour.
'We' means UKIP.
Ahh, I always mean someone else when I say 'They' :hehe:
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Its like a Dominic Cummins brainsorm moment , what shall we say next tye room shouts , 'free broadband ' "" yey "" the focus group throw the hands in the air and cheer, lets put it on the side of bus.
What about free housing for the young , big wages for youth , free student fees , free under 25 travel , get the trend here ?
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
Its like a Dominic Cummins brainsorm moment , what shall we say next tye room shouts , 'free broadband ' "" yey "" the focus group throw the hands in the air and cheer, lets put it on the side of bus.
What about free housing for the young , big wages for youth , free student fees , free under 25 travel , get the trend here ?
What did you think of the alternatives put forward by the dcms?
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Originally Posted by
RonnieBird
answer to Eric
They can't though Eric. Since it first occurred to the Ancient Romans to import grain from Egypt and hand it out free to the Plebs,( the Dole), such ideas have sometimes achieved a short term aim for transient rulers ,but ended in total ****ing disaster a little way down the line. Following Marx , socialism and Nazism took the idea to new levels of lunacy and the result was even worse.
They don't want to help anyone , they want to control them because they'll be indebted to the state, and in the end the state isn't capable of sustaining it because it just spends without creating anything.
Once they've spent everything there are unprecedented shortages and deprivation.
- just watching Corby exposing his scheme, and I'm afraid he's clearly ****ing mental .
This isn't about handouts. This is about creating whole-uk infrastructure that is relevant in the 21st century. If the policy were focussed around providing universal clean water, electricity or transport links to rural parts of the uk then we wouldn't be having this conversation.
The Boris alternative appears to be chuck 5 billion into the air and see what happens.
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https://assets.publishing.service.go..._FE_Report.pdf
If anybody is interested in reading about the possible alternatives and their strengths and weaknesses then this is a good place to start.
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Originally Posted by
Eric Cartman
Very interesting, however why would you dig up endless roads in rural areas when 5g will deliver that service .
Our problem with broadband is not in the cities its the rurals so I can, t see why we would invest so much money in a technology that maybe superceed.
Lets be fair this is just another headline grabber.
Just concentrate on real needs social care , NHS, school's, policing, transport ,and environment, anything else isca vanity project and media bait.
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They did it in Michaelston-y-Fedw.
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
Very interesting, however why would you dig up endless roads in rural areas when 5g will deliver that service .
Our problem with broadband is not in the cities its the rurals so I can, t see why we would invest so much money in a technology that maybe superceed.
Lets be fair this is just another headline grabber.
Just concentrate on real needs social care , NHS, school's, policing, transport ,and environment, anything else isca vanity project and media bait.
Lots of rural areas don't even have 4g yet...
Just to put things into perspective, the policy of the conservative party is to throw some cash at some private companies to try and do the same thing.
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Originally Posted by
Eric Cartman
Lots of rural areas don't even have 4g yet...
Just to put things into perspective, the policy of the conservative party is to throw some cash at some private companies to try and do the same thing.
Its a waste of public money ,build some hospitals.
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
Its a waste of public money ,build some hospitals.
I forgot we can only pay for one thing.
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Originally Posted by
Mrs Steve R
Don't get you :shrug::hehe:
"has it occurred to anyone that this would mean that they'd control what people could or couldn't see or say on the Internet ?"
"They already do don't they?"
"He means Labour" - as in "he only cares if a Labour government were controlling what people could or couldn't see on the internet."
I thought it was self-explanatory, sorry :thumbup:
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
Very interesting, however why would you dig up endless roads in rural areas when 5g will deliver that service .
Our problem with broadband is not in the cities its the rurals so I can, t see why we would invest so much money in a technology that maybe superceed.
Lets be fair this is just another headline grabber.
Just concentrate on real needs social care , NHS, school's, policing, transport ,and environment, anything else isca vanity project and media bait.
I can't get a f**king mobile phone signal in parts of Rumney and you think rural areas are getting 5g?! :hehe:
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We are behind Madagascar with fast Broadband availability for Gods sake. This is a radical idea and I like it. So much negativity about this.
If a socialist Government post war can make a success of the NHS then there is no reason why Broadband fee for all nationwide cannot work. This will speed up the way we work for so many people bringing about an increase in productivity. It will pay for itself.
No doubt the Tories will continue to trash this initiative then at the next election include it as one of their own policies just like they did with Ed Miliband’s energy cap.
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
Its a waste of public money ,build some hospitals.
Of course it’s not. It will speed up the way many people are able to work.
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Originally Posted by
RonnieBird
answer to Eric
They can't though Eric. Since it first occurred to the Ancient Romans to import grain from Egypt and hand it out free to the Plebs,( the Dole), such ideas have sometimes achieved a short term aim for transient rulers ,but ended in total ****ing disaster a little way down the line. Following Marx , socialism and Nazism took the idea to new levels of lunacy and the result was even worse.
They don't want to help anyone , they want to control them because they'll be indebted to the state, and in the end the state isn't capable of sustaining it because it just spends without creating anything.
Once they've spent everything there are unprecedented shortages and deprivation.
- just watching Corby exposing his scheme, and I'm afraid he's clearly ****ing mental .
Were you drunk when you posted this nonsense?
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Re: Free Broadband - latest insane policy from Labour
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Originally Posted by
RonnieBird
In the wonderful whacky world proposed by Corby there'll be free nationalised broadband to while away your extra free time during the reduced working week .
Ignoring the fact that it'll actually have to be paid for by some poor bugger, and that it's a bit strange to provide free broadband when you're making people pay for water, has it occurred to anyone that this would mean that they'd control what people could or couldn't see or say on the Internet ?
I believe the plan is to finally claim some taxation from the tech giants that avoid tax. If they are, as it, some poor bugger, then I await what you call someone who struggles to maintain meaningful employment despite working as hard as they can.
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Well , some of the poor buggers in question would be elderly people whose pension funds hold stock in these tech giants , but of course the tech giants you speak of would just move to China.
It will infuriate the gang of three when I say that I was chatting with a BBC correspondent this evening and we agreed that only 20 years ago this single policy would have ended Corby's chances of election, but we wondered whether dumbing down might mean that the idea could be taken seriously.
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I see the know everything about everything trio have given this idea the thumbs down. No surprise there then, after all a bunch of old men who have probably just about mastered texting are, surely, best qualified to pass judgement on this plan. However, speaking as an old man who has been left behind somewhat by the digital revolution myself, this sounds an honourable aim to me which is, almost certainly doomed to failure because of entrenched attitudes which think solely in terms of the, failed, economics of the last forty years - the irony is that next month will probably see the election of the most right wing Government of our lifetimes , more than likely with a majority, at a time when we are all still feeling the effects of the failures of capitalism.
I may be partially responsible for this in my own small way because I'm far from certain to vote for the only other party that can, realistically, be expected to form a Government , but I'm a little more likely to vote Labour today than I was on Thursday because of this policy.
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Johnson thinks it's a "crazed communist scheme"
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-br...-idUKKBN1XP1DY
I'm liking this idea more every minute :shrug::hehe:.
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the other bob wilson
Imagine if we were talking about libraries. Books...for free??? Haha crazy communist, completely unachievable.
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Eric Cartman
Imagine if we were talking about libraries. Books...for free??? Haha crazy communist, completely unachievable.
Although the Tories have history for throwing around political labels in an attempt to frighten Joe and Joanne Public who don't know what they mean, but know they are supposed to be 'bad'. Ed Milliband's plans for a cap on energy prices was denounced as Marxist or quasi-Marxist state intervention (depending on source) but ended up in Theresa May's Conservative Party Manifesto two years later!
It is either gross hypocrisy or (like the alt-right gang on here) they don't know the meaning of the words they use.
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Who are the "alt right" gang here then ?
I ask you in your capacity as a member of the "alt wrong" faction.
I don't think libraries were a labour idea were they ?