****ing bang on
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****ing bang on
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Disgusting from sky
Agreed. You only need to read social media to see how much racism has been on the rise over the past few years. Neville is telling it how it is.
F**k the premier league and f**k Sky.
Hypocrites the lot of 'em.
Oh and f**k the players too.
They are all out to try and get an edge on the opposition and the officials, at any cost.
The game is f**ked!
What a weak ****ing arsehole for repeating that, probably had it shouted through his mic. Just grow a pair and agree if you agree.
I’ve seen a lot of people criticise the Sky presenter but is only doing what he’s been told. Neville said the premier league doesn’t tackle racism which, to a degree could be seen as defamatory to me. Of course Sky we’re always going to be impartial to Neville.
The tackle of racism to me needs to come from the terraces mainly. Only once I’ve heard racist language at CCFC in the last 10 years. It came from an old chap sits near me that just shouts ANY abuse. Realistically I/those around me should have said shut up but I just shook my head.
I think most people acknowledge that the presenter got the message in his ear piece to say that.
The guy obviously has to say what’s in his ear to protect his job.
But sky want their cake and eat it, they promote anti racism stuff on their twitter but then want to take a “both sides” view on this.
I know they probably want to protect themselves from complaints when he’s mentioned not parties. But it’s still very weak from them.
we have disclaimers in every walk of life these days, this is just the same
looked rather silly though
Stan Collymore having a right pop at the presenter on Twitter but i think its unfair. The presenter is not a famous footballer like Gary Neville, so may never get as good a job again.
Gotta admire GN though. He tells it as it is.
I agree with a poster above who spoke about self policing at games. It’s only ever one or two idiots who shout racist comments (apart from that Bulgarian mob), but hundreds of disgusted fans surrounding them do nothing about it.
Why not get a steward over and point them out? There will be plenty of witnesses.
I’ve stood up against racists both at the football and in every day life on a few occasions.
You can’t stop someone from being racist by outlawing it, but you can control it in certain public domains if decent folk had a bit more about them.
This guy is now blaming Brexit for racism Quote
Iffy Onuora, the Professional Footballers' Association's equalities coach told BBC Sport that racism has increased in the UK since Brexit referendum.
"There is upheaval following the [Brexit] referendum and the election and that's caused this fracture," he said.
Brexit didn't cause racism ( or 'this fracture') but there is plenty of evidence that the language and imagery used in the Referendum debate and after (up to and including the last election) partly normalised racist abuse and behaviour - gave people with those views permission to express them - and that incidents of reported racism shot up - especially Islamophobic incidents.
Since the Brexit campaign there is proof that racists have been emboldened. It’s the way the campaign was ran that’s caused this.
Its ok for Gary Neville to take the moral high ground now that he has stopped playing. He didnt say much when he was playing.
This problem has to be stamped out and there is enough money sloshing about in football to sort this.
Top clubs should pay security firms to send properly trained staff into the crowd and jump on people who display this behaviour and take them before the courts. Take the fight back to these people and you will see how brave they are.It would soon stop because basically they are cowards hiding behind safety in numbers.
For Neville to bring politics into this is way off the mark . most of the ones doing it have no idea which party are in power and I cant see brexit being high on their list of topics of conversation.
if football can pay players massive wages they can pay for this as well and protect their players and the game in general.
We need to be more pro active. Talking and internal investigations will solve nothing.
He mentions he didn’t walk off the pitch years ago in support of Ashley. He also says he might get knocked for speaking from his ivory tower. But you know what? He’s finally said it, so don’t knock it.
I think the point about politics wasn’t just made to be political either, he is pointing out it reaches the highest places and is more or less just accepted. If it is acceptable there then the little people will follow suit.
More people need to speak up when they see this type of behaviour, be it on a night out, a train home from work or an afternoon at your local football club.
Sky, BBC, EPL, EFL, FIFA, UEFA play games with their meaningless 'Say no to Racism' and 'Kick it out' etc.
SKY could easily knock this on the head with financial penalties (they won't). Juventus played Lazio in Riyadh the other day, tv companies gladly paid to air the game. FFS for being gay you can be publicly executed in Saudi Arabia!
Will players be wearing rainbow laces in Qatar? Like feck they will.
SKY want a polished product, they will not tar their beloved EPL with overly highlighting racism.
It stinks of hypocrisy.
To be fair to the presenter, it's not his job to give his opinion as he will usually just facilitate conversation, he was put on the spot by Gary Neville and if he says the wrong thing then he loses his job whereas if Gary Neville says the wrong thing then he goes to work for Al Jazeera, beIN Sports and Talksport with Richard Keys.
It's good that Gary Neville was so clear on their being racism and institutional racism. Although twitter did make the point that when Stormzy said it he received a backlash whereas when Neville said it he was widely praised....
(https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50893279)Quote:
"Racism of any kind has no place in football or anywhere else and we must confront this vile behaviour," said a Downing Street spokesperson. Clearly there remains more work to be done by the football authorities in tackling this issue and we are committed to working with them on this to stamp it out.
Hey Downing Street, stop using racism to make yourselves look good. You have become the party that the ex-leader of Britain First, Katie Hopkins and Tommy Robinson are now joining up to as you have made them believe you are their party so stop pretending you have not been part of the problem.
I agree, sadly racism is only going to get worse in this country. Brexit captured the anti-immigrant vote and together with the shameful behaviour of the Prime Minister has given white nationalists a sense that open displays of racism are now tolerated.
The issues for both football and society are very serious but the irony of a vote leave government led by Boris Johnson leading the fight against racism is not lost on many.
Gary Neville is spot on here. Well done to him for having the balls to say this on air.
If one of the "sides" here is racism, what I don't get is that people are saying there are two of them. Sorry if I've got this wrong, but I'm pretty sure it was Iffy Onoura I heard on the radio yesterday saying that the fight against racism in sport has gone backwards since the 2012 Olympics - the actions of that presenter prove his point. Seven years ago, there would no be need for the stupid qualification made by the presenter, but now, as Gary Neville said, we have the leaders of the two main parties dogged by allegations of racism and the Brexit vote has emboldened racists into thinking that their views are almost part of the mainstream. Therefore, we now have a situation whereby we get presenters treading on eggshells so as not to upset people who hold obnoxious views.
I don't seriously think that the presenter, or whoever was talking in his ear, was suggesting that there are two sides to the racism debate. I think they were clumsily trying to cover the fact that Neville almost went as far as calling Boris and Jezzer racists, which is arguably a matter of opinion rather than fact. I could be wrong.
But I do agree that everyone seems so scared of saying anything on telly any more.
I think there was a suggestion that racism is tacitly accepted in downing st, and that this is to blame for racism generally. I'm reading between the lines a lot here, but that is what I assumed sky were arse-covering on, not the idea that football needs to do something about it. It never even occured to me that they were saying that the other side of the argument is that racism is in any way OK. But I openly admit that this is only my take on it.
I don't think Gary Neville accused either of being racists, just that they seem more accepting of racist behaviour and this has encouraged this behaviour to take hold in everyday life, and surely there is enough strong evidence to back that up so it is a fact. An opinion is that Labour and Corbyn are fundamentally anti-racist whereas Johnson and Conservatives has relied on it throughout their history to make career/political gains.
For those of you who have facebook the following is a link to a Films For Action video on what to do when you witness racist attacks: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=10154000910775983
For those who don't:
1. Don't be a bystander
2. Film and report it (if safe to do so)
3. Stick around for the victim
4. Tackle the culture of racism
5. Join campaigns/groups which focus on an anti-racism message.
I have identified to stewards racists at ninian park and seen them being arrested by police
It's very nerve racking but it's got to be done
As for this country it's more racist than I can remember in my lifetime
And boris johnstone is a right one to talk about tackling the problem
Hes got a few uncle Tom's in his cabinet but some of his comments in the recent past pull the shoes from under his feet
I thought the election was over. Still people peddling pro-labour or pro-tory garbage. how can you possibly say that labour are fundamentally non-racist when JC is claiming to be totally against anti-semetism with 2 people on the podium behind him who have been cited for being anti-semetic and had the accusations whitewashed by JC's minders.
I don't care one way or the other but some on here are so politically blinkered that they cannot think for themselves