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Man of the people Coogan furloughs his gardener and housekeeper , who is cutting the grass at his £4million property in its 75 acres of Sussex countryside.
And employees at Baby Cow Productions are being paid by the taxpayer.
Up the revolution, do as I do not as I tell tell you.
Same with Cummings ,privilege folk ,eh !
This highlights why furlough is starting to look like a piss take. Employers are taking the piss. So are employees. Next door has 3 people on furlough. One self employed, one works in a builders merchants and has refused to go back on safety grounds, and the other refused to work from home and took the furlough option. Yesterday, all three were in a car going to the builder's merchants that is too unsafe to work at, to buy materials to do more work on their house.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
People are taking the piss, and they don't seem to appreciate what is likely to happen when the furlough tap is stopped.
I've noticed this with a few people I know too. Most more than happy to take the furlough and do home improvements.Quote:
Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO
Won't be a simple task getting them back in the rat race.
Rishi Sunak not looking so good at all.
Coogan that Wetherspoons bloke who else?
Hardly fills you in confidence that Sunak will lead the economic recovery.
The original poster was sucking the chancellor off a few weeks ago , this scheme is beginning to look like a bit of a balls upQuote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
However bad Hancock has been I bet he wished he had Sunaks job. Sunak has basically thrown about the cash.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Also another Minister backing the disgraced Cummings.
Joining the list who have no regard for the public they are supposed to serve.
I think the furlough scheme was a good idea. The right thing to do. People will go back to work. One of very few things this Government got right.
Coogan is a hypocrite. He has more than enough money and really doesn’t need to be getting taxpayers money to pay his gardeners.
He is fair game for criticism.
Everyone including Coogan who have taken the piss deserve criticism.
How much this piss taking will cost the country who knows?
I’d like to see the full story of this, it’s weird it’s only being reported in the sun and the mail both of which have legal issues with Coogan.
If it’s correct how it’s being reported though it seems very hypocritical of him.
Unlike the benefits system where piss taking is a low percentage of users (a price worth paying) but much castigated, my anecdotal evidence suggests this scheme is being used by a fairly sizeable proportion of people taking the piss, and they (employers and employees) will use this scheme for as long as it is available, rather than for as long as it is needed.Quote:
Originally Posted by MacAdder
It will when they get a simple choice of pay or no payQuote:
Originally Posted by MacAdder
I probably shouldn't mention football club owners on a football club messageboard, but we have an owner worth $1.6bn (£1.314bn) who recently sold £55m worth of shares in a football club in the US who was also very quick to pass on the burden of his staffs wages onto the taxpayer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
That is also a piss take.
Furlough was a good scheme, it may even have been necessary, but it is going to cost a fortune and I do wonder if a few months on unemployment benefits whilst having mortgage and loan holidays could not have been used instead.
My neighbour is currently quids in - mortgage holiday, 80% of his wage - why would he need to rush back to work?
If my neighbour was out on benefits - he would be back working now. Yes, we can argue that many people would be forced into work despite being high risk - but that is really where furlough should have gone - to people with known underlying issues.
I appreciate that furlough may have had an impact on the success of the lockdown - but in that case we are simply paying extra for the Government's tardy response, and for years of underfunding the NHS and police force.
I did spit it didnt swallow just felt he had saved a lot of Small Medium Enterprises going to the wall and thier staff from being made redundant. I still like him not my fault the rich celebrity has no moral .Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
He should have furloughed local government workers not actually working during this period as well . Saved 20% on council wage expenditure.
To counter the anecdotal evidence above. The only people I know who’ve been furloughed are gutted about it and realised it was the first step to redundancy. Many have found new jobs as they were working for start ups who lost all their cash flow. And the companies that have furloughed them have offered redundancies to people who do quit.
I don’t know anyone who has had the option to be furloughed or not on safety grounds. But I’m sure it exists.
Whatever you think of the system it seems harsh to lay the blame on normal people because you live near or work with some lazy chancers.
Being a bit tough on Coogan here, poor bugger lived in travel tavern for nigh on a year.
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Originally Posted by splott parker
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But to give our owner a little credit, he has thousands of employees all over the world and all the businesses they work in are probably taking a hit and he may be doing more to support those that are in countries that don't have such a scheme. We don't know all the facts on it do we. The oil rich never-did-sa-days-work-in-their-lives owners of clubs like Man City are a different breed entirely.Quote:
Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO
Fair points, and there is probably a risk/cost analysis that shows doing it this way saved lives and the NHS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
Lord Fox has furloughed himself 🤣.
I know hes not a Tory but its still bad.
Didnt get much outpouring but hey .
Jeepers I voted for that lot FFS.
Fair points, but I fail to see why the British taxpayer should be helping to bail out foreign billionaires who deliberately run businesses at a loss anyway. Personally, I'd have had more sympathy if it was being taken up now rather than 8-10 weeks ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle
In fairness I can see the government’s thought behind it. Would these billionaires not just have sacked a load of people if there wasn’t a furlough scheme? ****ing up the economy and costing the tax payers in the long run anyway.
Not to say it’s right for billionaires to take advantage of it but if it helps protect jobs and the economy in the long run it might be worth it.
Coogan is a c**t. He always has been.
I have to separate the artist from the art when it comes to Partridge.
What a shitshow this thread is. A load of adults discussing the issue interspersed with the OP's pathetic fishing attempts.
It's a necessary scheme, implemented poorly and based on some pretty shit foundations.
Coogan is a dick for doing this if true, but his behaviour has not undermined attempts to control the virus like Cummings. Not comparable, stupid thread.
A lot of artists would back up your vivid description of him being a part of a ladies lower body bits . ( strange choice of words though, I find said parts likeable, but folk, mainly men , do use ladies bits as insults , alongside yours we have the awful word T!!t , or tit is less of poor use of words , must be a man thingy ? )Quote:
Originally Posted by Heisenberg
You do like sexual parts???Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Cartman
And that is the important part in all this to save ordinary folk from redundancy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
I think the name and shame should be made more often, to force people like Coogan, Branson , Posh Spice, Tim Martin and many more , to dig a bit deeper into thier very wealthy bank accounts to help
employees .
Most of those can’t even be trusted to pay their fair share of tax
Stop talking bollocks, you cock.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Is that better?
I've got no issue with coogan doing this. Why should he be penalised for his past success. As long as he's a taxpayer that's all he's duty bound. The system was massively flawed but don't hate a player, hate the game.
That's a lot better , one should show some respect, you do learn quickly .Quote:
Originally Posted by Heisenberg
We'll see how this comes out in the wash. I can't believe it's as cut and dried as it sounds. Steve Coogan is an inlegigent bloke. I would be surprised if he was guilty being so shortsighted and not having the self awareness to see this reaction coming. On the other hand, maybe he doesn't care.
The scheme is absolutely necessary, the alternative would have been far far worse.
The vast majority of employers genuinely needed it (they would far rather their businesses be open and having to pay staff themselves) as do the vast majority of employees.
As with anything that's well intentioned, there are a minority that will abuse it and take the piss.
And the piss takers would probably have just sacked people if there wasn't this scheme.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trigger
I think the government were well intentioned with this, even if it wasn't perfect.