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Welsh health minister Eluned Morgan banned from driving for speeding
She has to resign surely?
Mark Drakeford said Bors should resign for having a sausage roll, so logically he would want her to resign?
Surely Speeding fines of more than 12 points beats a sausage roll and a swig of champers?
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...iving-23425545
https://nation.cymru/news/first-mini...artygate-fine/
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Re: Welsh health minister Eluned Morgan banned from driving for speeding
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Originally Posted by
North Cardiff Blue
So do you think both should resign?
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Re: Welsh health minister Eluned Morgan banned from driving for speeding
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Originally Posted by
WJ99mobile
So do you think both should resign?
He clearly is a tory and is trying to deflect the fact that the prime minister , who he supports ,lied to the country and told us to get in line whilst he drank alcohol and stuffed his face at parties that were banned
Nothing to do with eluned Morgan getting a driving ban for speeding , which she's going to accept I assume
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WJ99mobile
So do you think both should resign?
No Sausage rolls were fine, you are unlikely to kill someone, her offence is more severe and could have had serous consequences so possibly?
If Drakeford says Boris should resign, is it alright to say but she shouldn't because shes labour?
Come on you have to use the same standards, live by the sword die by the sword, Kier is prepared to face the consequences?
Kier shouldn't though, a beer and a curry is fine in my book he was working.
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Originally Posted by
North Cardiff Blue
No Sausage rolls were fine, you are unlikely to kill someone, her offence is more severe and could have had serous consequences so possibly?
If Drakeford says Boris should resign, is it alright to say but she shouldn't because shes labour?
Come on you have to use the same standards, live by the sword die by the sword, Kier is prepared to face the consequences?
Kier shouldn't though, a beer and a curry is fine in my book he was working.
Under your dear leader, well over 100 fines were issued to people he was responsible for, for the legislation that he introduced and consistently lied about.
In addition a number of parties weren't investigated by the Met police, of which no one knows why.
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Re: Welsh health minister Eluned Morgan banned from driving for speeding
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
He clearly is a tory and is trying to deflect the fact that the prime minister , who he supports ,lied to the country and told us to get in line whilst he drank alcohol and stuffed his face at parties that were banned
Nothing to do with eluned Morgan getting a driving ban for speeding , which she's going to accept I assume
Not necessaraly, I have previously voted labour, but i'm not a lefty.
It's not deflecting anything Boris has been debated ever since he was elected, and many people on here were saying he should resign which is fair enough if thats you genuine opinion. Now we have a Labour minister who commits a series of offences and thats suddenly pefectly acceptable, she shouldn't resign it's all fine, nothing to see here ?
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Re: Welsh health minister Eluned Morgan banned from driving for speeding
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Originally Posted by
neilw65
Under your dear leader, well over 100 fines were issued to people he was responsible for, for the legislation that he introduced and consistently lied about.
In addition a number of parties weren't investigated by the Met police, of which no one knows why.
Now this is deflecting, the debate is about the double standards, one rule for Boris another rule for his team member Eluned, defend that if you can, although you can't because it's wrong to have double standards.
Back to defelcting...........
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Re: Welsh health minister Eluned Morgan banned from driving for speeding
Why wait until now to link the story? She's already half way through her ban.
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Re: Welsh health minister Eluned Morgan banned from driving for speeding
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Originally Posted by
North Cardiff Blue
Now this is deflecting, the debate is about the double standards, one rule for Boris another rule for his team member Eluned, defend that if you can, although you can't because it's wrong to have double standards.
Back to defelcting...........
Not at all. The reason Johnson should resign is that he broke his own rules created to prevent the spread of disease during a pandemic. Rules that he said MUST be followed, including attending funerals and visiting relatives in hospital or care homes.
He then, repeatedly, lied about his actions and changed his story. Not only in interviews but to parliament.
If the first reason, partying against the rules during a pandemic, is not reason enough to resign, lying to parliament (as well as via media) most certainly is.
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Re: Welsh health minister Eluned Morgan banned from driving for speeding
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Originally Posted by
North Cardiff Blue
You're advocating an MP resigning over a speeding ticket? I bet half of them would have to resign.
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Re: Welsh health minister Eluned Morgan banned from driving for speeding
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Originally Posted by
neilw65
Under your dear leader, well over 100 fines were issued to people he was responsible for, for the legislation that he introduced and consistently lied about.
In addition a number of parties weren't investigated by the Met police, of which no one knows why.
Because there was no evidence on those ones possibly ? Just a thought. Unless you are suggesting that the Police are biased or politically corrupt. In which case please explain why they didn't investigate Starmers ‘knees up’ until they were forced to do so.
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Re: Welsh health minister Eluned Morgan banned from driving for speeding
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Originally Posted by
WJ99mobile
So do you think both should resign?
Yes, both should do the honourable thing and fall on their swords.
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Re: Welsh health minister Eluned Morgan banned from driving for speeding
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
You're advocating an MP resigning over a speeding ticket? I bet half of them would have to resign.
No it's a driving ban, so either multiple offences or one big one over 100mph to be banned.
I don't think politicians should resign over minor offences, but the lefties did when Boris got caught and demanded it, then changed their minds when Kier got caught, now want to bury this one completely under the carpet.
If you demand Boris resigned, you should be demanding Kier and Uluned resign, otherwise it's pure doeble standards.
She should stand fir and refuse, and say it's minor and i'll pay for any drivers having to drive me around because I can't drive mysellf to work. She needs to get on with the job, the Welsh NHS is in a right mess!
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Originally Posted by
North Cardiff Blue
Not necessaraly, I have previously voted labour, but i'm not a lefty.
It's not deflecting anything Boris has been debated ever since he was elected, and many people on here were saying he should resign which is fair enough if thats you genuine opinion. Now we have a Labour minister who commits a series of offences and thats suddenly pefectly acceptable, she shouldn't resign it's all fine, nothing to see here ?
Half the people on this board probably have speeding tickets or bans and the other half probably went to illegal gatherings during the pandemic and think it was a great wheeze to break the rules. Double standards is putting it mildly.
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The Bloop
Why wait until now to link the story? She's already half way through her ban.
It was on the news yesterday and it occured to me there was not a mention of her resigning, or Drakefords comments about Boris resigning?
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Re: Welsh health minister Eluned Morgan banned from driving for speeding
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nt-Oxford.html
Even I don’t think that is a resigning matter, but it does tell you what sort of man he is.
Although it’s not a good look for a politician these days, speeding bans have never been a resigning matter for politicians as far as I’m aware - maybe if she was a transport minister?
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Re: Welsh health minister Eluned Morgan banned from driving for speeding
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dml1954
Half the people on this board probably have speeding tickets or bans and the other half probably went to illegal gatherings during the pandemic and think it was a great wheeze to break the rules. Double standards is putting it mildly.
Which half do you fall into?
Or is maths not your strong point?
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Re: Welsh health minister Eluned Morgan banned from driving for speeding
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
Half the people on this board probably have speeding tickets or bans and the other half probably went to illegal gatherings during the pandemic and think it was a great wheeze to break the rules. Double standards is putting it mildly.
You dont half talk cr@p.😂😂😂😂😂
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Re: Welsh health minister Eluned Morgan banned from driving for speeding
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the other bob wilson
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nt-Oxford.html
Even I don’t think that is a resigning matter, but it does tell you what sort of man he is.
Although it’s not a good look for a politician these days, speeding bans have never been a resigning matter for politicians as far as I’m aware - maybe if she was a transport minister?
I'll see your parking tickets and sausage rolls and raise you a driving ban!
He's a bit of a scally I know, but the "you should resign" was ridiclous and has come back to bite Kier and Drakeford on the arse.
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Re: Welsh health minister Eluned Morgan banned from driving for speeding
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nt-Oxford.html
Even I don’t think that is a resigning matter, but it does tell you what sort of man he is.
Although it’s not a good look for a politician these days, speeding bans have never been a resigning matter for politicians as far as I’m aware - maybe if she was a transport minister?
The question to come from all these you resigns is what really is a resigning matter?
Covid Partygate?
Speeding driving bans?
Drink driving bans?
How far up from there?
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Re: Welsh health minister Eluned Morgan banned from driving for speeding
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Originally Posted by
North Cardiff Blue
No it's a driving ban, so either multiple offences or one big one over 100mph to be banned.
I don't think politicians should resign over minor offences, but the lefties did when Boris got caught and demanded it, then changed their minds when Kier got caught, now want to bury this one completely under the carpet.
If you demand Boris resigned, you should be demanding Kier and Uluned resign, otherwise it's pure doeble standards.
She should stand fir and refuse, and say it's minor and i'll pay for any drivers having to drive me around because I can't drive mysellf to work. She needs to get on with the job, the Welsh NHS is in a right mess!
Boris should have gone.
Starmer should have gone.
Not sure about the Elinud Morgan one but it's a bit rich being told to drive at 20mph while Welsh ministers are racing around 'late for meetings'
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Re: Welsh health minister Eluned Morgan banned from driving for speeding
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Hilts
You dont half talk cr@p.
The point he was making is that a lot of people calling for Boris to resign broke covid rules themselves.
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Re: Welsh health minister Eluned Morgan banned from driving for speeding
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Originally Posted by
North Cardiff Blue
I'll see your parking tickets and sausage rolls and raise you a driving ban!
He's a bit of a scally I know, but the "you should resign" was ridiclous and has come back to bite Kier and Drakeford on the arse.
I don't think it will, Johnson's approval rating has nosedived since the whole party thing started, he is clinging on by a thread and any further bad publicity will likely being him down at any minute.
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Originally Posted by
North Cardiff Blue
I'll see your parking tickets and sausage rolls and raise you a driving ban!
He's a bit of a scally I know, but the "you should resign" was ridiclous and has come back to bite Kier and Drakeford on the arse.
He should have resigned for lying about it. Serial lying. Contempt for the public. Ingrained dishonesty.
For many/most people calling for him to quit it was never about 'a bit of cake' or a 'sausage roll' or a glass of wine.
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Re: Welsh health minister Eluned Morgan banned from driving for speeding
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Originally Posted by
North Cardiff Blue
The point he was making is that a lot of people calling for Boris to resign broke covid rules themselves.
Come off it. 😂😂😂😂
Only lefties want Boris to resign. 😂😂😂😂
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Re: Welsh health minister Eluned Morgan banned from driving for speeding
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Originally Posted by
Hilts
Come off it. 😂😂😂😂
Only lefties want Boris to resign. 😂😂😂😂
Come in now, we all know that those Tory MP’s who voted no confidence in him are nothing but rabid lefties.
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Re: Welsh health minister Eluned Morgan banned from driving for speeding
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ninian opinian
Come in now, we all know that those Tory MP’s who voted no confidence in him are nothing but rabid lefties.
😂😂😂😂😂
The bufoon fans are always good for a laugh.
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Re: Welsh health minister Eluned Morgan banned from driving for speeding
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Originally Posted by
North Cardiff Blue
It was on the news yesterday and it occured to me there was not a mention of her resigning, or Drakefords comments about Boris resigning?
Or are you trying to deflect the attention from Boris Johnson by bringing up a news story from March?
The difference between the offences is that Eluned Morgan hasn't lied to anyone about them (as far as I know), whereas BJ has constantly lied about the offences and, whenever asked about then, deflects the question to something else.
It's about trust in public office - one of them has it.
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Re: Welsh health minister Eluned Morgan banned from driving for speeding
I'm sure I saw her doing 21 mph in Nth CF , think she said to the copper i'm in in a rush to fix the Welsh Health issues , copper said be careful or ' you will be going home in a flecking ambulance ' she really , have seen the waiting times ?
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Re: Welsh health minister Eluned Morgan banned from driving for speeding
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life on mars
I'm sure I saw her doing 21 mph in Nth CF , think she said to the copper i'm in in a rush to fix the Welsh Health issues , copper said be careful or ' you will be going home in a flecking ambulance ' she really , have seen the waiting times ?
Was she driving whilst disqualified?
She should resign if she was 🙄
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Re: Welsh health minister Eluned Morgan banned from driving for speeding
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The Bloop
Was she driving whilst disqualified?
She should resign if she was ��
I didn't stop long enough to ask , as I sped past at 22 mph on my cycle on the way to A & E
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Re: Welsh health minister Eluned Morgan banned from driving for speeding
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Originally Posted by
North Cardiff Blue
The point he was making is that a lot of people calling for Boris to resign broke covid rules themselves.
I don't know anyone who did.
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Re: Welsh health minister Eluned Morgan banned from driving for speeding
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jon1959
He should have resigned for lying about it. Serial lying. Contempt for the public. Ingrained dishonesty.
For many/most people calling for him to quit it was never about 'a bit of cake' or a 'sausage roll' or a glass of wine.
No at the time it was because he had a sausage roll, that came after and is a different argument.
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Re: Welsh health minister Eluned Morgan banned from driving for speeding
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Hilts
Come off it. ��������
Only lefties want Boris to resign. ��������
In reply to - The point he was making is that a lot of people calling for Boris to resign broke covid rules themselves.
That doesn't say "only lefties want Boris to resign" ? loving the bafoon fans :hehe::hehe:
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Dorcus
I don't know anyone who did.
I'm sure lol, you don't know anyone who met one of their family or friends or drove 5.01 miles?
I bet you do even if they haven't told you, and if you ask they may be slighty economical with the truth.
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Re: Welsh health minister Eluned Morgan banned from driving for speeding
My wife did not celibrate her 60th and me my 65th birthday.
The same with all our friends.
It seems to be all you Torys who dont care less.
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Re: Welsh health minister Eluned Morgan banned from driving for speeding
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ninian opinian
Come in now, we all know that those Tory MP’s who voted no confidence in him are nothing but rabid lefties.
Thats after the event, I'm referring to Drakeford and the lefties saying resign to Boris a log time ago over sausage rollgate and carry on it's fine to his mate.
A lot has changed since, if they don't think he can win the next election he will be gone for sure, I would say it's now looking 60/40 that he'll be gone in less than a year.
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Hilts
Come off it.
Only lefties want Boris to resign.
In answer I don't remember saying ONLY lefies want Boris to resign, but of course most did and Drakeford as they were trying to make a storm in teacup.
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Re: Welsh health minister Eluned Morgan banned from driving for speeding
This ‘Boris’ tag pisses me off, like ‘Maggie’ did, it’s ‘F*cking Johnson’ & ‘The Evil F*cking Corpse’. Isn’t the whole point of the Johnson jacking it in argument is that the c*nt was involved in making the rules & laws that he broke, brazenly standing, socially distanced of course, between two scientists every evening preaching these rules & laws to us, then ripping the mask off and going on the piss. Then lying through his teeth in Parliament even though there are photos of him raising a glass. How it relates to someone being banned from driving for speeding offences baffles me.
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Re: Welsh health minister Eluned Morgan banned from driving for speeding
I reckon Tory Boy has a signed picture of Nadine Dorries on display in his house. You couldnt make this sh!t up.😂😂😂